Wait, a game that's known for being completely unforgiving in every aspect is unforgiving of you if you hit an NPC? Unthinkable!ghost whistler said:
Dark Souls: Initial Thoughts
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I think he thought you were trolling since literally 80% of your argument was completely ludicrous...ghost whistler said:
As the other guy said, don't play online if you don't want to be invaded. You also can't be invaded if you are hollowed. And to "report" an invasion you use a special item purchased from the guy in the bell-tower on top of the Undead Church. If you want to avoid invasions it is also rumored that there are certain covenants such as the Way of White that will cause fewer of them.Dansen said:
Edit: Scratch that part about playing online. I was playing offline just now and an NPC black phantom invaded my world. I killed her pretty easily. Afterwards I absorbed 1 humanity, picked up 3 humanity items, and got a decent weapon off of her corpse. BEST GAME EVARRR!!!
I've beat all the bosses except 2 and so far I love the game besides the completely messed up online features and the covenant system which I think could have been implemented better. Also there aren't very many viable magic weapons besides those that are made using the upgrade system.
In other news, this game has done the impossible for me. I've never played Demon souls, but thought it looked interesting... after getting this game and playing it for a total of 60 hours, without even beating the game yet, I have decided that this game is now my number one all time favorite.. over the half-life series. I didn't think it was possible.
Odd, even on NG+++ I didn't have much trouble with Flamelurker.s69-5 said:
A lot of the bosses are very easy once you know what to do, especially if you have a summon helping you out, but there are still some damn challenging ones. Of the 11 major bosses I've defeated so far, 6 of them were on my first try, but the Great Gray Wolf Sif for example took me about 7 attempts. The Stray Demon took something like a dozen attempts and seemed all but impossible until I upgraded my pyromancy to over 9000.
Not if you suck at the game, but if you can learn from your mistakes and persevere (Or even just try to find something you like at all about the game) you'll stand a much better chance against him. Walk onto the bridge, climb the ladder to to the right, kill the archers, plunge him in the head. Run to the other side of the bridge and back, climb the ladder again, repeat plunge. Do that until he's dead. It's not that hard, man.ghost whistler said:
Honestly, all I'm seeing from you is complaints about every little thing that gets brought up, even as advice that's supposed to help you (Which I'm surprised is still coming in, considering your horrible attitude towards the game). Yes, the plague rats are about a minute away from the bonfire. It does take a long time t grind humanity off of them. It is annoying. Do you know why it's annoying? Because it's grinding. Grinding is not supposed to be fun. You grind so you can get stronger so you can do better at the game so you can have fun.
And yes, 42,000 souls is a ridiculous price to pay to have NPCs forgive you. Just deal with it instead of complaining. You made a mistake, you're being punished for it. I'm sorry the game doesn't hold your hand like almost every other current-gen game does now. It's not bad game design, it's just really, really hard. Yes, the game can be cheap at some points. I will admit that. But that is the case with EVERY GAME EVER. There are always going to be annoying parts to every game that you dread going through. If you find the entire thing unfair, then either A. You're just no good at the game or B. You're not willing to take the red-tinted glasses off and change up your playstyle to suit the situation you're in. Reading your complaints about the game is like watching DarkSydePhil's LPs of it, all you do is criticize From Software and the people who like Demon's/Dark Souls.
If you don't like the game, you're never going to get your money's worth. Trade it in and buy RAGE or something. And if you insist on playing through it, STOP. COMPLAINING. It's okay to get mad, but please, for the love of God, stop whining about every little thing. It's not fun for you, it's not fun for us, it's not fun for anybody.
I think this is the longest post I've ever typed out on these forums.
The most important thing I've ever learned in Demon's Souls and thus dark souls) about melee builds can be represented by a single word: Stamina. Stamina is everything. To succeed with a melee build in demon's souls, you needed around 40 stamina at least and you needed to know how to manage it well because if you use it all attacking but leave none to dodge with, you easily die. So you can never have too little stamina.Sram said:
Edit: Oops, too MUCH stamina, I mean >.<
Edit 2: And by 40 stamina, I of course mean Endurance
The hubs, or checkpoints of the gameworld are the bonfires. Whenever you rest at a bonfire all of the standard enemies respawn. However, bosses, as well as certain very strong enemies/mini-bosses sprinkled throughout each world only need to be defeated once. The levels are also very labyrinthine in design, with paths frequently splitting off in different directions. Exploring different routes will often unlock shortcuts which will allow easier travel to and from bonfires, and you may also uncover new bonfires to make things easier. Progress if often a chipping away process. For example, the Catacombs are full of skeletons that will reassemble themselves after you've killed them. However, once you kill the necromancer that is reanimating them, they will stay dead when killed. This can get very intense as reanimated skeletons chase you down while you try to hunt down the necromancer. But after you kill him, he stays dead, and all of the skeletons in the area become a cakewalk.gof22 said:
It's certainly fun starting a new character in Demon's Souls after you've beat the game repeatedly with one character. You wonder sometimes how you ever had so much trouble in certain places.s69-5 said:
As for the Flamelurker, I have no clue what that's about. I usually use my meat cleaver, learn his attack patterns well, and just take a slice out of him when the opportunity presents itself. That, and I cast soul arrows at him. It's been a while since I played Demon's Souls, but I really don't remember Flamelurker being much of a pain, other than on my first playthrough when I didn't know what to do.
The False King on the other hand was a massive pain in the nuts. Possibly because I try to keep my distance with him for fear of getting a soul level sucked out of me.
Why not get the Drake Sword then? Just go to the merchant in the firstish area in the Undead Burg, buy a bow and some arrows (around 50 of any kind should be enough I think) and go under the bridge with the Hellkite Dragon. Whale on the tail with the arrows (aim for the part where it joins his body, it doesn't move much there) and bam! Drake Sword.Sram said:
OT: Rented this game for yesterday and I had to return it today. Really liked it, got the first bell rung and started going to the sewers. I got to the Gaping Dragon, but didn't go through the fog because I had a relatively large amount of souls. Hopefully it will be cheaper around Black Friday and I'll pick it up then. If not, probably wait until Christmas.
Question Time: Does the Zweihander scale with the attack levels, or would I just be better off staying with the Drake Sword when I get back to the game? I'm at around 17 str and 14 dex.
Also, is there any way to sell stuff, or do I just drop it and hope it's not important?
To be fair, the camera did take some getting used to for me. It doesn't bother me at all now, though I still notice the little unpolished bits with it. For example, go from the bonfire in the Depths and travel down to the shortcut that leads to the Gaping Dragon in the area beside where the giant rat used to be. If you swivel the camera around a bit you'll see it goes right through the bars. The bars will block your view like this. However, it's not like there are any enemies there to defeat, and I haven't found any issues like that in areas where you have to fight. It's just one of those little areas that lack polish that every game has. Heck, I had way more problems with Ninja Gaiden's camera back in the day, and that's one of the best hack 'n' slash games of all time.Daystar Clarion said:
We have full agreement on everything else though of course.
Be aware that when you kill the golem and free that magic teacher inside, she will disappear for the rest of the game if she takes a single hit. So when you summon her with her golden summon sign back at the shoreline, make sure you've taken out all the golems there or you risk missing out on some useful sorceries.Magefeanor said:
The Zweihander does scale with strength, but I think there are some better 2 handers that scale with strength you get by the time the drake sword loses its power.newguy77 said:
As you increase your stats, weapons with a scaling attack grade (E,D,C,B,A or S) for that stat will do more damage. Just look at the item description for the Zweihander. Sticking with the Drake Sword will become difficult after a while, since it will only ever do 200 damage unless you upgrade it, which requires rare dragon scales.newguy77 said:
After you ring the second bell you'll get a new NPC at Firelink who will give you souls for items. Items that you drop will turn into Vagrants in other people's worlds. Vagrants are small crab looking creatures that are fairly easy to kill. I've only encountered one so far. Sadly I didn't realize what he was at the time and don't recall what he dropped. I believe they are supposed to drop something valuable, so if you ditch excess items you'll probably be doing another player a favor. This is still rather uncertain though.
I returned the game today to the redbox, so I can't check the stats myself, but thanks for the explanation for the letter grades, I was wondering what those were for.QueenOliver said:
Also I think I found a vagrant, it's basically an upside down jellyfish that shoots homing missiles at you, right? If that's it, it gave me a humanity so yeah, pretty good reward. Thanks for the advice.
I suck at games like this, but I'm handling the bosses just fine. That is a sign that they aren't too hard. Except for Orstein and Smough. That fight is coming up for me and I've seen people die at it. A lot.s69-5 said: