Darkness 2 Demo: What the shit?

[Lifelikegibbon]

well that hopefully explains some of the problems of the games demo

 

[Smooth Operator]

Well I never played much of the original because it's not my kind of strange, so I'm not up there with the fanboy rage but throughout the demo two questions kept poking me in the eye:
- since when is this a cartoon?
- why the fuck did you infect it with CoD bullshit?

Well we all know the anwser to that is money, but still... have some fucking dignity devs.

 

[RaffB]

1. While the comics were amazing, Shakespeare they most definitely were not.

2. I quite liked the graphics, plus the first one does look very dated..

3. You can turn them off. Even in the demo

4. QTE's? Apart from the whole, press x to eviscerate this guy you just picked up, I didn't notice them.

5. I got the impression from the ending of the first one that while he did lose control of the darkness near the end, it was more in a Embrace the true power, not the complete submission way.

6. They didn't exactly change much in the first one, barring the odd minor convo.

7. Would you draw attention if your boss sprouted tentacles and ripped people apart?

 

[Ordinaryundone]

And now for the bad stuff!

1. Awful writing. "I like the way he feels. He feels sticky."

That character was supposed to seem weird and creepy. His name was Peevish, for pete's sake. Otherwise I thought the writing was fine; not like we got to see much of it.

2. Cel-shaded graphics. I know theyre trying to make it more like the comic, and normally I much prefer a stylised look, but the new graphics have sucked out the murky and shadowy atmosphere of the first game.

I actually rather liked them. I liked the original game as well, but this is a nice change of pace from gritty realism.

3. COD-style points flashing up when you do something right. Way to break my immersion every ten goddamn seconds, dipshits.

You can turn them off. Problem solved.

4. Quick time Events. Fuck you.

Quick Time events? You mean the few times when you had to press X? I wouldn't exactly call those QTEs. No different than selecting a dialogue option or something.

5. Jackie has not been consumed by the darkness. The ending of the first game indicated that the Darkness had consumed Jackie's personality and morality, but he mentions early on "Not this, not again" implying that he has rejected the Darkness since then, making the original game's ending MEANINGLESS. JACKIE'S ENTIRE CHARACTER ARC HAS BEEN RENDERED POINTLESS. FUCK YOU DIGITAL EXTREMES.

Jackie has NEVER been consumed by the darkness. He is it's master. By giving into his revenge and killing Paulie he just guaranteed that his soul would be lost when he died. Until then though, Jackie is fully capable of dominating the Darkness. Read some goddamn comic books.

6. No dialogue options. Godammit.

So? The dialogue options in the first game were pointless. Its not like the story branched or anything.

7. Gang members don't care about the Darkness. Not only can you not turn the Darkness off (you read that right), but your fellow Gang members don't give a shit about the manisfestation of evil oozing out of your back. One guy literally says "Oh shit Jackie what the hell is that never mind go kill these dudes"

Actually, Vinnie says "Jackie, is that you? Hey, you got your thing back". Everyone in Jackie's crime family knows what the Darkness is; they were there when he was killing everyone in the first game. And even if they didn't, he is A. Their boss and B. ripping the other guys in half. They are smart to keep their mouth shut.

So, escapists, what did you think of the demo? I personally found it to be an insult. Digital Extremes couldn't have missed the point worse if they fired in the wrong direction and the point was in a different country altogether.

Demo was awesome, Day 1 purchase, you shouldn't curse so much. It makes you seem stupid.

 

[mad825]

2. Cel-shaded graphics. I know theyre trying to make it more like the comic, and normally I much prefer a stylised look, but the new graphics have sucked out the murky and shadowy atmosphere of the first game.

Indeed, but failed the whole "comic book" feel.

If anything, games that should have the whole comic book style idea should draw inspiration from XIII the game otherwise it seems like an intolerable excuse.

 

[Spacewolf]

5. That line was Jackie being consigned to his fate as the Darkness' puppet for all eternity. It wasn't him suddednly gaining control again.

7. Wrong. Remember the standoff at your aunts house? Remember how you would never be able to use the Darkness in front of friends? Yeah. It isn't the same.

5. Yea guess that was why it was in Jennys voice huh after he had been taken over rather than just staying asleep in his mind

7. Remeber how the biggest reaction you got out of set peices was "o no run" toward the big snaky thing

 

[Sonicron]

I would love to weigh in on this.

I would love to, but I can't because those Microsoft douchebags won't make the demo available for folks with a German account. Fuck you, Microsoft, and fuck you, German censorship laws.

Can't blame microsoft for following the laws of your country.
Just saying

I know, I know, but we've been suffering this crap for so long now in this country, sometimes it just feels liberating to scream and shout at anyone and everyone involved, regardless whether they're really to blame or not. Allow me my moment of childish petulance, good sir, knowing I'm fully aware of Microsoft's innocence in this matter.

 

[cthulhlu]

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1. Awful writing. "I like the way he feels. He feels sticky."

2. Cel-shaded graphics. I know theyre trying to make it more like the comic, and normally I much prefer a stylised look, but the new graphics have sucked out the murky and shadowy atmosphere of the first game.

3. COD-style points flashing up when you do something right. Way to break my immersion every ten goddamn seconds, dipshits.

4. Quick time Events. Fuck you.

5. Jackie has not been consumed by the darkness. The ending of the first game indicated that the Darkness had consumed Jackie's personality and morality, but he mentions early on "Not this, not again" implying that he has rejected the Darkness since then, making the original game's ending MEANINGLESS. JACKIE'S ENTIRE CHARACTER ARC HAS BEEN RENDERED POINTLESS. FUCK YOU DIGITAL EXTREMES.

6. No dialogue options. Godammit.

7. Gang members don't care about the Darkness. Not only can you not turn the Darkness off (you read that right), but your fellow Gang members don't give a shit about the manisfestation of evil oozing out of your back. One guy literally says "Oh shit Jackie what the hell is that never mind go kill these dudes"
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did you even play the same demo as me?

1, taken out of context that is a silly quote, in context its creepy and sets the charecter up as crazy nicely

2: i like the new graphics, but to be honest im somewhat bored of the drive towards realism so i may be biased

3: turn them off then.

4: to me the whole, grab item and hammer a dosent really count as a qte's, to me a qte is something that flashes buttons during a cut scene for no damn reasone

5: all we saw was the darkness start too feed on jacky, then the scene with him and jenny in..were ever that was, ending with "jacky.. wake up"

6: now youre just reaching for any little thing that annoyed you

7: "Whats is that thing!" "Its the darkness!" "Its the devil!" "oh god this isnt real!" plus bear in mind pretty much the ENTIRE mafia has seen him use those things