Dates And Bragging

[SaetonChapelle]

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This is quite interesting actually. A thread by a psychologist about a guy who asked her out and likes to brag, in which she feels the need to point out her professions, qualifications and how long it took her to achieve them, as well as making a kind of circus out of her own experiences with dates she feels she it too got for. If I were a psychologist myself I would be intrigued.

Actually, I totally understand what you are saying here. I was originally intending to include his attempts at false psychoanalysis and such due to my previous experience (only in the departments of psych and art I am knowledgeable in, all of the others I am completely ignorant) however I decided to omit it as it would not have been important, but forgot to remove the paragraph.

My apologies.

That's okay.

By the way, all psychoanalysis is false as a science and also if we're talking about helping people and not just in the short term.

Although I am aware that there is still a debate on that (as psychoanaysis does feature an experimental or "empirical" confirmation, however there is no scientific evidence for psychoanalysis nor do I believe there could be. /shrug. I'm not really involved in the argument nor do I take a side.

Of course that is off topic anyhow

 

[Buffoon1980]

I have been on precisely one actual, proper date (you know, dinner, stroll along the beach, that sort of thing). It ended with sex. I guess this shows that although I have trouble getting women interested in me in the first place, once I get them to notice my existence they can't resist. Although I may have to increase my sample size for that conclusion to have much weight...

Anyway, as stated I don't really date per se, but when it comes to actually talking to women, yeah, I brag. I'm sure it makes me look like a douche, and I'm sure that the fact I have precious little to brag about becomes apparent quite quickly. It's like some switch flicks on in my brain, and I can't shut up about how awesome I am.

Women, if you come across a man afflicted with this terrible syndrome, cut him some slack. What he's essentially saying is that you have all the power in this relationship, and he's just scrambling in a vain attempt to keep up.

 

[scorptatious]

I never went on a date before, so I can't say I have personal experience. Although this does remind me of my brother in-law and my sister. He was a bit of a liar himself and now they're separating.

I remember when I was about to graduate from High School, he told me that he would help me form a business or something like that, but he never actually did.

 

[BarbaricGoose]

That's okay.

By the way, all psychoanalysis is false as a science and also if we're talking about helping people and not just in the short term.

Are you honestly saying psychology can't help people, or.... what? That looks to be what you wrote. And if I am reading that correctly, I wholeheartedly disagree. How can you say that it doesn't help people? ...is that what you're saying?

-Hentai Comic Book Artist. However his art skills were... well he frequently traced (This is not an insult towards those who are learning to draw. Please, keep doing what you're doing. Practice creates skill)

Anyway... did this guy honestly brag about his skills as a hentai artist? Really? That seems like something you'd take your grave. Also: how did you know his artwork sucked? Did he show it to you after bragging about it?

That's a good dinner conversation: "I draw school girls getting penetrated by monsters. Professionally. WANNA SEE?!" I wouldn't know whether to congratulate him on his enormous balls or walk away slowly.

Most of my dates have been pretty average, for better or worse.

 

[Guitarmasterx7]

Sounds like a keeper.

No in all seriousness, talking yourself up is natural and there's no harm in it, but by that I mean talking up things that are actually true in a way that implies they're more significant than they are. (IE, someone learning guitar but works at mcdonalds is more likely to introduce themselves as a musician than a mcdonalds employee.) That's fine.

At the point where you're saying "I'm a boxer and my fights are so brutal theyve been removed from youtube" you might as well be like "I have super powers and I killed the last tsar if Russia before he blew up the united states with his secret mega-nuke. The news didn't cover it because the obama administration is keeping it a secret for fear that I will get too much pussy." It's like when people go about their day to day life wearing a fedora, sunglasses, and a trenchcoat. Nobody sees that and assumes "I'll bet this cool mysterious guy kicks a lot of ass." Pretty much the most uncool think you can possibly do is fail at an attempt to be cool.

 

[Blood Brain Barrier]

That's okay.

By the way, all psychoanalysis is false as a science and also if we're talking about helping people and not just in the short term.

Are you honestly saying psychology can't help people, or.... what? That looks to be what you wrote. And if I am reading that correctly, I wholeheartedly disagree. How can you say that it doesn't help people? ...is that what you're saying?

Yes. How can you say it does help people? What do you mean by help? First of all there is no statistical evidence that is has helped people. Then it's the whole idea of psychotherapy which, to my mind, doesn't stack up. A patient comes to see a psychoanalyst who tells them they have a problem because of they way they relate to the world. Then there's a process of healing, therapy, which is meant to solve those problems. Who's to say these defense mechanisms are a problem in the first place? Why should there be a "right way" and a "wrong way" at all? It's a way of making money, that's all. You can claim it helps people fit into society, I wouldn't argue with that, but that's not necessarily a help. Many of our cultural idols in the arts and sciences have also been the biggest misfits.

Medicine has a separate reference point for the "good" - the survival of the organism. Psychoanalysis doesn't. It has the patient or doctor saying what is "good" and how do they know that? Liking or disliking a psychological or physical trait is no basis for diagnosing anything.

 

[Bara_no_Hime]

Damn straight. Naturally, if she says yes, I would also be prepared with some follow-up questions such as:
Who is your favourite character? (Answer: Naoto, will also accept Yosuke and Chie)

Gotta go with Chie or Kanji. Naoto didn't click with me.

What was the name of the final boss? (to assess if they got the True Ending)

Shadow Teddy's eyeball.

Or the Gas Station attendant who insists on touching you when you arrive in town.

... one of them. It's been a while and I can't remember which of them is which.

What did you think of the soundtrack?

Not as good as Persona 3's.

Obviously my dream girl would be decently attractive,

Check.

A/B cup breasts

Check.

be able to write an essay on Persona 4,

I'd rather write one on Persona 3 Portable, but I'm sure I could manage at least 2000 words if you give me an hour or two.

being good (but not too good) at fighting games,

... I'm pretty good at Soul Caliber. Playing Sophtia. ....

understands how to fucking ward in League

I hate MMOs and online multiplayer in general. Same room or GTFO. The point being, never played League of Legends, so I have no idea what warding is.

and wears glasses.

... 20/20 vision.

Apparently I'm not your dream girl. Just FYI.

 

[Snowbell]

A man I know, who is aware that I'm in a committed relationship, repeatedly flirted with me and when I told him I wasn't interested he told me that if he wanted to, he could 'hypnotise' me with his 'animalistic' ways and I wouldn't be able to 'resist' him. I avoid him whenever possible, but although I find him repulsive (he's not bad looking but I can't stand his cocky 'I deserve all the women' attitude) he has actually slept with quite a few of my friends. I just can't understand what they see in him.

 

[The Funslinger]

Another one of my "I went out with a crazy person" stories!

Dis gon be gud.

*reads*

Dis wuz gud.

OT: While I have had a couple of relationships, and I have my share of experience, blah blah blah, until my most recent relationship, I'd only been on one actual date, weirdly enough. Having been on a couple more casually in my most recent relationship, so far they've all been pleasant.

First date I'd been on was quite pleasant. Just a nice trip to the movies (though it was to see Woman In Black, so 'pleasant' may be subjective). My only qualm was that as I do when engrossed in a film, I devoured popcorn at a pace that would make Goku blush, which must have looked a bit dumb.

Other than that, my dates have been small scale things. A drink in a bar, getting slushies from a coffee shop, and going around a couple of those shops with perfume in the air that just sell random odds and ends, mostly of the feminine persuasion.

Fun, right? Well, I feel the need to contribute a freaky-ass story, so for that, I'll tell you how my most recent wonderfully pleasant relationship ended. She broke up with me in order to jump into bed with a close friend of mine, whom she'd only known a few weeks, while I was there.

After that, they had a bit of a tiff, and she tried to put me in the middle of it. When I refused to talk him into talking to her again, she slashed her palm and started threatening suicide.

Fun.

 

[CrystalShadow]

Wow. Awkward.

I get lack of confidence, but that doesn't seem like a good way to compensate.

Then again, what do I know about dating? I've never been on one. Ever. (And believe me, when you're my age, that' saying something.)

But honestly, the more stories like this I hear, the less inclined I am to try.

Of course, it doesn't really help that I pretty much freak out and run off if a guy (or girl. Either works for me - in theory anyway. XD), approaches me and even shows the slightest hint they might be interested in me...

Yeah... Not gonna happen, basically.

But I guess that does make commenting on topics like this seem a bit awkward. XD

 

[sky14kemea]

Damn straight. Naturally, if she says yes, I would also be prepared with some follow-up questions such as:

Who is your favourite character? (Answer: Naoto, will also accept Yosuke and Chie)

But dude, Kanji is awesome! D:

What if your date said they'd watched someone else play Persona 4, and had seen the anime of it twice?

 

[Colour Scientist]

After that, they had a bit of a tiff, and she tried to put me in the middle of it. When I refused to talk him into talking to her again, she slashed her palm and started threatening suicide.

Fun.

Whut?

That's mental. It's a good thing you got away from that, that's emotional manipulation at it's worst.

OP: I don't think I have any stories about dates being crazy or weird.


Wait... Does that mean that I might be the crazy one?

 

[The Wykydtron]

Damn straight. Naturally, if she says yes, I would also be prepared with some follow-up questions such as:

Who is your favourite character? (Answer: Naoto, will also accept Yosuke and Chie)

But dude, Kanji is awesome! D:

What if your date said they'd watched someone else play Persona 4, and had seen the anime of it twice?

Hmm, acceptable enough. I don't really bother with the anime though, every time I go to watch it I get around two episodes further in and get the urge to go and just play the damn game. The endless references to the game does it, soundtrack, sliding day calendar etc etc. Plus I really do not care for the anime's interpretation of the main character. It's a tough one for them to do really, seeing as they have to take all the possible conversations choices and condense them into one character. Either way you're going to be pissing somebody off.

 

[The Wykydtron]

Damn straight. Naturally, if she says yes, I would also be prepared with some follow-up questions such as:
Who is your favourite character? (Answer: Naoto, will also accept Yosuke and Chie)

Gotta go with Chie or Kanji. Naoto didn't click with me.

What was the name of the final boss? (to assess if they got the True Ending)

Shadow Teddy's eyeball.

Or the Gas Station attendant who insists on touching you when you arrive in town.

... one of them. It's been a while and I can't remember which of them is which.

What did you think of the soundtrack?

Not as good as Persona 3's.

Obviously my dream girl would be decently attractive,

Check.

A/B cup breasts

Check.

be able to write an essay on Persona 4,

I'd rather write one on Persona 3 Portable, but I'm sure I could manage at least 2000 words if you give me an hour or two.

being good (but not too good) at fighting games,

... I'm pretty good at Soul Caliber. Playing Sophtia. ....

understands how to fucking ward in League

I hate MMOs and online multiplayer in general. Same room or GTFO. The point being, never played League of Legends, so I have no idea what warding is.

and wears glasses.

... 20/20 vision.

Apparently I'm not your dream girl. Just FYI.

"Hey! I'm a totally unimportant Gas Station Attendant! Can I touch your haaaannnd?!" :3

Anyone who can write an essay on Persona 4 (I can accept 3) is at least worth a first date.

I can forgive your lack of League because at least I don't have to listen to half arsed excuses as to why "ehhh I don't need to ward, they're a waste of money!" >.> i'm more of a 2D fighter kind of guy so i'll have to convert you to BlazBlue because ArkSys is the best right now.

However, the lack of glasses is kind of a big deal... Instead, can you pull off wearing a beret or any other sort of hat stylishly? Then we'll still be in business.

[sub][sub]I-I just have a thing for women wearing cool hats alright?[/sub][/sub]

 

[The Funslinger]

After that, they had a bit of a tiff, and she tried to put me in the middle of it. When I refused to talk him into talking to her again, she slashed her palm and started threatening suicide.

Fun.

Whut?

That's mental. It's a good thing you got away from that, that's emotional manipulation at it's worst.

Indeed. Though I went on to point out pulling the suicide card was downright evil, I had the satisfaction of absolutely flooring her with my initial reaction: "how is that my problem?"

 

[BehattedWanderer]

Shame about the date. It seemed to be going so well...[/sarcasm]

I've been on a date with a girl who told me that she'd had three first dates, but that all of them somehow involved proposals of some form. When I hinted with the most blatant hints possible that I would not be doing that, she seemed extremely disappointed. Not the best date I've ever had, and I wasn't interested in a person who would constantly expect me to propose.

I've made a point of only doing small embellishments, if even that. It's worked a lot better, and produced a few quite memorable dates. I am a good cook, and I can be pretty witty and charming, so I just let it roll. I don't brag about skills I don't have, unless it's clear I'm being sarcastic.

 

[Thyunda]

Publicly shaming someone (albeit without giving a name) for attention.

Way to go.

Well that's how a thread entitled 'Dates And Bragging' is likely to go. You knew what you were getting into when you signed up.

I know a few braggarts. People are too polite to pull them up on it, but I'm a bit of a twat so I do so merrily. The most recent was a former coworker, who, rather unprovoked, announced he had an officially recognised IQ of 186.
My brother has...153 I think and has an official Mensa membership. I asked the 186 a few questions leading in the wrong direction about the treatment of his massive IQ and he conceded that "The online tests might have been unreliable..."

He probably doesn't think much of me. Then again, I brag too, but at least I boast about things that actually happened.