Dead Space 3 SHOULD be the nail in EA's Coffin

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EHKOS

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The only thing I'm upset about is the quality of the Plasma Cutter replica from the second one. I've seen the demo and it still has the ability to be tense. I can't really judge this one until I've played it.
 

Extra-Ordinary

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I'm going to be optimistic about this one.
I'm aware that Visceral has really been put between a rock and a hard place considering that if it doesn't do well EA's dropping the hammer but I'm hopeful it'll still be good.
I really love the Dead Space series so this opinion is not without bias, but hey, I like to think positive.
 

Phlakes

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You know, looking at the difference between 1 and 2, the third one's not much a departure from the pattern.

1 was survival horror with hints of TPS.

2 was a pretty moderate TPS/horror hybrid.

3 looks to be a TPS with hints of horror.

Not exactly "completely changing a games [sic] genre".
 

Kroxile

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I will buy DS3.. hell I already have technically and I will enjoy it.

The demo did highlight a few changes that I don't like (universal ammo, removal of power nodes, the divider head thing though it does make sense, really) but I'm not about to let that stop me from going to gamestop on the 5th, picking up my copy, and enjoying the hell out of it.

As other posters here have already said: its asinine that you would judge an entire series that you have never played.
 

Lilani

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EA has way too many IPs and assets to fail from one game. No matter how many copies they say they have to move to make the franchise worth continuing, even if they moved none they would still go on being EA. Maybe they won't buy up another studio for a little while, but they'll recover soon enough.
 

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deviltry said:
Suddenly music changed to cliche "horror is happening" and first enemy poped up. This didn't awaken any emotions in me, let alone made me scared, and like the first encounter should be the scarriest, bad horror design.
The best part about horror game threads are the kiddies that need to come on and let the internet know that the scary game did in fact not scare them at all and they are still totally badass and hardcore.
 

Nieroshai

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God forbid that a man learn how to fight after surviving the same zombie mini-apocalypse twice. That itself is what was wrong with Resident Evil: SWAT teams (or the Capcom equivalent) shouldn't suck that bad! It's like this whole forum cares about nothing but gameplay, but whenever survival horrors come up all you talk about is how "it isn't going to be scary 'cuz the hero kills monsters too easy!"

Seriously, watch a Let's Play of the game before you call it utter shit.

Also, it's blatantly obvious you're one of those obscure firebrand critics the internet doesn't actually care about. Maybe you should [waves hand] go home and rethink your life. I don't want to buy any Death Sticks.
 

Nieroshai

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Well that's all fine and dandy, but what do us fans of Dead Space get from all this? I loved Dead Space 1, and although Dead Space 2 wasn't nearly as scary it improved on the first in basically ever other way.

I'm not EA's biggest fan either, but I genuinely loved the DS series. Am I meant to not buy it and pass up the opportunity to not enjoy myself to support your crusade against the big bad videogame company?
I'm with you. I'm not going to punish Visceral (if DS3 is good, they'll have finally redeemed themselves of Dante's Inferno in my eyes) for EA's bad policies. That's like murdering Lord British because EA murdered Ultima. No lie, this happened. The infamous Ultima Online incident where Lord British got gang-raped by half the community in-game with rusty swords.
 

ResonanceSD

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Dragon Age 2, Mass Effect 3, SWTOR and the upcoming Sim City should all be nails in EA's coffin.

But people still buy their games, so guess not.
 

Vault101

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Flare_Dragon123 said:
you know... call me crazy, but I don't see why somethings particular success at fitting in with its genre matters much.
It seemed like the basis of your reasoning, that Dead space was suffering the same fate as resident evil (less survival horror than action)

[quote/]The point is that its literally becoming every other popular game ever for the sole reason of selling more copies. I sincerely believe that this series is losing its identity due to EA's demands on Visceral.[/quote]
dont misuse the word "literally" like that..for gods sake

also viceral actally explictily said it wasnt because of EA...now I'm taking that with a grain of salt but its worth noting at least

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whatever success it may have, it won't be as a Dead Space game, but as some sort of monster brethren of what used to be and what everything else is.[/quote]
you have no fucking clue what a dead space game is...you clearly showed that in your opening post,

yes 5million copies is stupid
yes microtransactions are scummy
yes putting co-op is cause for concern

but NONE of that is warrants your knee jerk "OMG UR GUYS EA ARE RUINING EVARYTING!!!" rant

we wont know untill we play the game,
 

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The funny thing is, I actually liked Dead Space: Extraction best of the franchise because it dropped all pretense of being a horror series and made a fun little shooter. Though multiple protagonists meant anybody could die, and you weren't stuck with one tool for the whole thing. The franchise has potential, but I think it needs to let go of a few things like having Isaac the focus (I think in the end of DS3 Isaac should die, permanently). The multiple protagonist thing should be implemented in future titles, maybe rip off a few ideas from Siren (the good ideas anyway).

EA and its business practices do bug me, but once in a while they publish a game I want. I don't want them to go away, I just want them to clean up their act and maybe have a slice or two of humble pie.
 
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Yosharian said:
Dead Space 1 was a perfect game, didn't need a sequel, fuck EA, they just want to milk everything for money. /thread
That was pretty much my feeling, but they rolled the dice with DS2 and it turned out pretty good. Now they've rolled again and I'll reserve judgement on DS3 until I play it, but from what I've read it makes me apprehensive.

What I wonder is how long EA and Visceral can keep rolling the same dice before they turn up snake-eyes and ruin the credibility and gamer trust Visceral has built up with atleast two really solid games.
 

Boogie Knight

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And for the record, Dead Space and Resident Evil losing their identities makes me say, "Thank God for Corpse Party, and Jim Sterling." While Corpse Party may not be the best horror franchise ever, at least they are earnestly trying with what little they got. And in some respects, getting the most out of little time, money, and resources is the essence of making horror be it in movies or video games.
 

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Kroxile said:
I will buy DS3.. hell I already have technically and I will enjoy it.

The demo did highlight a few changes that I don't like (universal ammo, removal of power nodes, the divider head thing though it does make sense, really) but I'm not about to let that stop me from going to gamestop on the 5th, picking up my copy, and enjoying the hell out of it.

As other posters here have already said: its asinine that you would judge an entire series that you have never played.
Yeah those summed up my complaints in a nutshell (except for I don't know what you mean by divider head). And was it just me or was the camera angle tighter to him this time?
 

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I'll probably still buy it, just like I bought RE6 and loved it, haters be damned.
 

Vault101

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Boogie Knight said:
And for the record, Dead Space and Resident Evil losing their identities....
SnakeCL said:
I'll probably still buy it, just like I bought RE6 and loved it, haters be damned.
the OP doesnt know what the hell he's talking about...he's trying to use dead space 3 as example in his (oh so original) "ERMAGERD EA ARE TEH EVIELS" rant which doesnt fucking work because he hasnt played the game AND it has not gone the way of RE6 because it was never there in the firt place...has it become more actiony? yes, but it hasnt lost what Dead space is...well so far, with DS3 we'll have to see

Yosharian said:
No, I don't buy it. I have been forced to play DS2 at gunpoint by my flatmate and literally every minute was further proof that I was correct and that the series had been ruined to shit.
boo fucking..hoo
[quote/]It just shows that gamers have an exceptional capacity for self-deception that everyone and his dog thinks DS2 is either 'basically alright' or 'actually pretty good'.[/quote]
yes..obviously poeple who disagree with your veiw are just plain wrong....
[quote/]Edit: oh and another thing, no DS2 is not the 'Aliens' to DS1's 'Alien'. Stop making that fucking comparison.[/quote]
Dead space was never Alien eather...
 

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Leoofmoon said:
It was never survival horror, it was a action zombie game. the scares were phoned in you can easily over power the zombies and simply the weapons were highly over power and some weren't even scrap metal made into a weapon. You wanna know what game IS survival horror? The souls games, you'er quickly over powers and helpless to monster and most can kill in a single hit. Also DayZ You have to seek out and find your weapons, ammo and food.

EA needs to be taken down for far more then killing a already overblown franchise that's really a action game and really they just need a better marketing and CEO.
Ok....He just called the souls franchise survival horror...It just occured to me we have seriously, SERIOUSLY lacked a true true survival horror game in a while if this guys calling souls survival horror. Holy Drunken Ninja jesus. Go play ZombiU man. For the Love of god go find the true meaning of survival horror again. You've lost your ways horribly.
Survival horror is not a action game, it is being terrified of your next encounter of the monsters your facing that could kill you, in Souls ANY monster can kill you and even random players will jump in to kill you! hell a lot of games that just lack music in sections scare me more because of the unstillness of the setting. If you think Oh I have a fun and can EASILY kill monsters because I can slice there arms off in one shot is not horror, Also I don't have a WiiU. not to mention what I should have said "what is a better survival horror.