Deadpool will be pansexual in his upcoming movie.

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dirtysteve said:
I know people who openly profess to be Dragonkin, doesn't make that real either. You being insulted is up to you, not me.
As for comparing to to the others, Transgender isn't a sexuality, it's a gender. Bisexuals and Homosexuals are categories that describe actual sexualities, not special subcategories that don't have any real distinction.
Well otherkin as practiced by the vast majority of people anymore has lost a lot of it's mystic/spiritual meaning, because it's been hijacked by the type of crowd that swarms to tumblr, the people who do say they're anything to seem unique. Now the; "You being insulted is up to you, not me." That sort of thing always strikes me as a cop out, palming off one's own responsibility for being blatantly insensitive, while at the same time excusing not educating one's self.

First of all transgender isn't a sexuality, it's also not a single gender. There are trans men, trans women, and tons of other gender identities that fall within the general spectrum of transgender, when transgender is used as an umbrella term. Although, non-binary as it's own umbrella term often crosses over with a lot of what is considered to be under the spectrum of transgender and visa versa. So transgender is not a a gender, it's a spectrum of non-cisgender gender identities, as is non-binary.

Speaking of sexuality, heterosexuality, bisexuality, and homosexuality are not just three standard check boxes that are randomly assigned, they're a spectrum to. Since erttheking already posted the Kinsey Scale, I'll quote it:

erttheking said:
https://schnippits.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/kinsey-scale.png?w=645&h=231

Sexuality is a hell of a lot more complicated than "check the boxes of the genitals you like" So saying that being anything other than full gay is cowardly is a slap in the face to the LGBT crowd and evidence that you knowledge on sexuality is rather lacking. And lesbians are the cowards way out only if you use them as eye candy. Contrary to popular belief, women who like over women are not accepted, they're just seen as eye candy and plenty of men still try to sleep with lesbians. There's a difference between accepting someone for who they are, and just thinking what they're doing is hot without giving it any respect.
But to address the main point again:

dirtysteve said:
As for comparing to to the others, Transgender isn't a sexuality, it's a gender.
Anyways the reason I brought up gender identities, specifically transgender, along sexualities like homosexuality, bisexuality, and asexuality is for one reason. Plenty of people say that trans identities are invalid, fictional if you will, even homosexual people will say that transgender identities are fictional identities, that trans folk are just confused gay, or lesbian people. Tons of people also write off bisexuality and asexuality, while lots of heterosexuals do this, lesbian and gay folk also do it too. Essentially that's the same attitude you displayed by writing off pansexual folk, that was my initial point.

You have given me one more thing to address:

dirtysteve said:
I know people who openly profess to be Dragonkin, doesn't make that real either.
This is an argument I've come to call; "the otherkin argument", and it's one of the most ignorant and insensitive ones I see on a regular basis. Now here you used it against pansexual folk, but it's also used to invalidate the lives and identities of trans folk, it's used to invalidate the sexuality of lesbian, gay, bisexual, asexual, and basically every sexuality that isn't heterosexual. The problem here is that there is scientific proof, growing scientific proof, that substantiates the existence of LGBTIQ+ folk. Because of that the otherkin argument is one used to back up a positiong of ignorance and an unwillingness to be educated at all, also it's used to back up prejudice and discrimination. So you can kinda see why that sort of talk irritates me. This doesn't mean I think that you're a transphobe, homophobe, or prejudice against people of various sexualities, gender identities, or what have you; however, you are propagating an argument that has done and is doing serious damage to people in the LGBTIQ+ spectrum. That's something I take issue with.

Edit: I should clarify, the reason the otherkin argument gets any credence is because there is no scientific evidence to back otherkin identities up at all.
 

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Deadpool has been married to an alien hippopotamus, and is in love with death (seems like a female undead). However I have not seen anything where Deadpool has expressed any attraction at all to males. The alien hippo was female of her species.

However he does express strong attraction to traditionally beautiful human women all the time, and beds quite a few of them, going so far as to conceive a daughter while battling the white man and sporting an Afro. That's right, you heard me.

As far as i know, Deadpool has never even encountered an individual that would qualify as trans or non-binary or intersex, or whatever. I could be wrong about this, its not as if i have committed every bit character to memory unless they were hilarious or awesome in some way.

source: Ive read all the deadpool I could find in my local network of libraries, the amount is extensive.

the following is an assortment of deadpool's known lovers. Some may be figments of his insanity.

Shiklah
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Mercedes wilson
http://cdn2.denofgeek.us/sites/denofgeekus/files/styles/insert_main_wide_image/public/dplmercedes.jpg?itok=mYHWEQMA

Orksa
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix6/orksa_deadpool-passed%20out.jpg

Outlaw
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114734/3018458-inez+temple+cable+deadpool+40.jpg

Death
http://static.fjcdn.com/comments/The+reasons+deadpool+cant+die+one+he+has+an+amped+_8665da12c99181fd8662e8ffbb69a36c.jpg

Carmelita Camacho
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inu-kun said:
1. What? I fail to see your point, especially since DP breaking the 4th wall is a pretty central character part rather than his sexuality (plus I find it as assurance that it won't be a dark and gritty action film).

2. Because lesbians are lesbians and bisexuals who's main love interest is females are not really different than straight people? I'm not a main movie buff but I don't remember a man on man sex scene in a film yet.

3. I didn't say that they don't exist, so your accusation is pretty meaningless, but you know what, fine, if it's not a male of 3 (with main love being male),4,5 or 6 than it's cowardly.

4. But it's not a revelation, it's the sexuality of a comic book character, it's petty fan boy wars.
...So wait. It's ok to make an annocunement about a character for something that should be an obvious part of his character, but an announcement on his sexuality, which is clearly a new development for many, shouldn't get an announcement and they should just include that in the movie and have people figure it out? By your own logic, shouldn't people just figure out Deadpool breaks the fourth way? Why does one announcement get your scorn but not the other?

No. A thousand times no. In fact, this kind of reminds me that biesexuals catch a lot of flak from gay rights activists for not being "real" LGBT people. In fact I've heard biesexual women who date men get criticized as being "bad lesbians." Is...is that really a behavior you want to emulate? Sexuality is more than just the gender of the people you see people fucking on screen. You seem to have an issue when people call it cowardly to have a main character being white straight and male being lazy, so why do you suddenly have an issue with people taking the "cowardly" route, especially when this is far from the cowardly route.

You miss my point. You're basically saying any representation of anything LGBT sexuality that doesn't involve two men kissing is cowardly. The whole range of possible LGBT characters, and you say the only acceptable presentation is one that involves a dude fucking another dude. As someone who is a friend with two biesexuals, a gender fluid pansexual, a transgender biesexual and an asexual, I find this mindset to both unfair and limiting. I mean you're the one always calling for artistic freedom. Now all of a sudden it has to be dick on dick or it's cowardly?

The petty war part of this seems to be everyone getting up in arms over Deadpool having a sexuality that, frankly, doesn't really seem that OOC for him.
 

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Anything that makes Rob Liefeld curl into a fetal position is gold with me. (For all you Marvel 90's kids)
 

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And this is important why?

I was not aware that deadpools sexuality was such a major point of his character in any way or form besides the ocasional sex joke.

I just wish people could stop making such a huge stink about who has what type of sexuality in this day and age. All it does is needlesly categorize people into collectives and create us vs them scenarios... you know.. like gender studies.
 

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Caramel Frappe said:
Ah, so he's into boning everything like Zeus.
Because literally, put something in front of the guy that 'appears' attractive and Zeus will try to put his dick in it.
This.

Funny, I always thought Pansexual meant someone who'd bone anything--including animals (though in Zeus' case he was a swan boning a mortal woman, IIRC).

I guess Zeus would be what folks refer to as Omnisexual: If it moves--bone it.

Or would Omnisexual also include necrophilia? That's sorta what Deadpool does when he's getting it on with Death, herself...I think...

I'm so confused about the new gender/sexuality terminologies that show up these days!

Live and learn, I guess.
 

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Zeconte said:
I'm pretty sure there was another woman Zues boned as a bull. Apparently, he's really into women who are into bestiality...
That one I do remember! Her name was Europa.

Hmmm...it never occurred to me until just now that Europe was named after an act of kidnapping and beastiality. Huh, I wonder why my high school history teachers never mentioned that bit of trivia? ^_^
 

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Ihateregistering1 said:
I'll go ahead and be the cyncial one, but this sounds like one of those things where at first people are going to be really happy and excited about it, because it shows more acceptance for people who identify as 'pansexual', plus it shows that a character who isn't standard heterosexual can still be ultra-badass. And then...

those same people will realize that Deadpool is completely bat-shit insane, and then they'll get offended because now they'll claim it's implying that only people who are mentally deranged would identify as pansexual.

I've got $15 on my theory. Who's in?
No bet there man. These people turned of Joss Wheadon. They've proven time and again that they'll eat their own the moment anyone steps out of line to ANY degree.
 

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Karadalis said:
And this is important why?

I was not aware that deadpools sexuality was such a major point of his character in any way or form besides the ocasional sex joke.

I just wish people could stop making such a huge stink about who has what type of sexuality in this day and age. All it does is needlesly categorize people into collectives and create us vs them scenarios... you know.. like gender studies.
Well if nothing else, it IS true of him in the comics. He and Cable had some VERY homoerotic overtones, and Deadpool is attracted to Thor. A hole's a goal with the guy when you get right down to it.

Pretty much the only time Deadpool regretted sleeping with someone was when he slept with a female version of himself from an alternate universe. That was weird even by his standards.
 

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I'm excited for the deadpool movie.
This sounds fitting for him, it's about time we get a badass that swings both ways.

Unrelated:
Is there a term for someone who likes women and finds some trans women attractive?
Straight?
 

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dirtysteve said:
Just because it's used in a different way to invalidate different people, doesn't mean they way I used it is wrong. Maybe a better example would be the famous Tumblr chart, with nonsense such as 'Aliosexual' which means you don't 'feel' any other sexuality fits you.

It's nonsense, more labels invented to either make someone feel special, or far more often, used to brow-beat others as insensitive and phobic.
Yes, because pansexuality as a defined sexuality was just thrown up by the tumblr crowd, not built up over decades, you know to help describe people who are attracted to basically anyone, regardless of parts. Except thats what pansexuality is, that's how pansexuality works, it means gender and gender identity aren't the target of attraction.

You call it nonsense, you're the one dismissing things with out doing any of the research. The people who use the identifier do so, because it tells people that the person in question doesn't care about gender when it comes to sexual attraction, no as a method of browbeating. Well at least that's how it's used in a real life, non-tumblr contexts. You seem to not understand why labels exist, they exist to classify things and people, when a new label comes up it's because the old labels don't cover all the variations. That's why pansexual came into existence and it's a term I've known since the 90's. So it's not some new tumblr browbeating scare term, it's a term that has more broad application than bisexual, regarding sexual preference. Your whole argument this time has been nonsensical and exclusionary. So take that for what you will, but arguing with someone whose being intentionally exclusionary with out backing up their side at all, just throwing personal opinion... Sorry to say I'm not going to take that position seriously, especially when one's gripe is with a sheltered group like blog denizens. Besides and more importantly, if the tumblrinas want to feel special, let them, I can't understand what value there is from trying to take that from them. Especially because harming their opinions and labels is what validates those opinions and labels, because it's easy to read as oppression and being oppressed gives one more validity.

chuckman1 said:
Unrelated:
Is there a term for someone who likes women and finds some trans women attractive?
Straight?
A man, or boy, that is attract to women and trans women(some, or all trans women) would be considered by most reasonable people to be heterosexual/straight.

A woman who is attracted to women and trans women would be a lesbian.

To unreasonable people who are insecure with them selves though, a guy who has any interest at all in trans women would get labeled gay.
 

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I think pansexual is a kind of silly denotation that doesn't need to be made in contrast with bisexual (to me it would be a silly as there being a term specifically for heterosexuals that are willing to date brunettes). But other than that it's true to the character so no biggy.
 

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I feel like this is in character for Deadpool but is almost entirely unnecessary for them to announce, feels more like a publicity move than any sort of character development.

I wouldn't be surprised if you begin to see more posts about the equality of the deadpool movie around the interwebs soon, doubt the filmmakers would miss a chance to use this for advertisement.

Having said that a lot of the content of the deadpool comics is stuff that I imagine would probably make SJW's scream, so if it's going to be faithful I can imagine it might actually get a few people riled up.
 

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Metalix Knightmare said:
Karadalis said:
And this is important why?

I was not aware that deadpools sexuality was such a major point of his character in any way or form besides the ocasional sex joke.

I just wish people could stop making such a huge stink about who has what type of sexuality in this day and age. All it does is needlesly categorize people into collectives and create us vs them scenarios... you know.. like gender studies.
Well if nothing else, it IS true of him in the comics. He and Cable had some VERY homoerotic overtones, and Deadpool is attracted to Thor. A hole's a goal with the guy when you get right down to it.

Pretty much the only time Deadpool regretted sleeping with someone was when he slept with a female version of himself from an alternate universe. That was weird even by his standards.
Eh, I always just assumed that he just did that because he knew how much it bothered them and it being fucking hilarious to him, not because he was interested in boning them(though my knowledge of Deadpool is only the first two years he was in print, so maybe more shit happened). And he's pretty much always gravitated towards women, even when he got transported back to the original run of Spider-Man

As for pansexual, ok...don't much see how this is all that relevant. I mean, any sex scene they do will pretty much need him to keep wearing his bodysuit considering how fucking disgusting his skin looks from the Mutant DNA cocktail he injected himself with and his skin cancer(I forget the details). Or...they just can't do it from any serious perspective. It just won't work if they're going for a Deadpool movie. Even his interactions with Death, supposedly the love of each other's...lives(?), they crack jokes at and about each other, and that's sorta the extent of how "serious" they get with one another.
 

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Lightknight said:
I think pansexual is a kind of silly denotation that doesn't need to be made in contrast with bisexual (to me it would be a silly as there being a term specifically for heterosexuals that are willing to date brunettes). But other than that it's true to the character so no biggy.
Well keep in mind that a lot of bisexual people won't date any trans, intersex, or even agender person, because even bisexuals tend to cling to the gender binary. That's why pansexual and panromantic labels exist, as a panromantic myself, I can say with some confidence that the difference is buried in the gender binary. I don't hold much stock in the concept of the gender binary, even though I present so stereotypically feminine it's actually angered feminists before. Still to put it simply, someone's physical sex won't bother someone who is pan, same as a bisexual, but at the same time their gender identity is a non-issue too, unlike with most bisexual people.
 

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Yea, it only makes sense for deadpool to be pansexual. It would be very jarring for him to not be. It does seem weird for them to announce that, i mean it's deadpool, it can be reasonably assumed by anyone who knows even a little about deadpool. I almost cringe at the idea that this will attract the SJW crowd who don't know about deadpool, and then they'll be horrified because it's deadpool, he's a really offensive and politically incorrect guy. Then they'll protest, boycott, and get the game removed from theaters, maybe claiming that his activity is an attack on pansexuals or something on top of that, and it'll be a huge awful mess.

I wish they just didn't announce he was pansexual, then we could avoid all that drama. Anyone who knows deadpool knows he's a pansexual, or at least probably finds the idea that he has a normative or default sexuality laughable, so i think it would be better just to let it be assumed, and let the people who would enjoy the movie for deadpool go, not try to attract, and sortof mislead in a sense, a crowd that would otherwise not be caught dead watching deadpool.
 

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KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime said:
Lightknight said:
I think pansexual is a kind of silly denotation that doesn't need to be made in contrast with bisexual (to me it would be a silly as there being a term specifically for heterosexuals that are willing to date brunettes). But other than that it's true to the character so no biggy.
Well keep in mind that a lot of bisexual people won't date any trans, intersex, or even agender person, because even bisexuals tend to cling to the gender binary. That's why pansexual and panromantic labels exist, as a panromantic myself, I can say with some confidence that the difference is buried in the gender binary. I don't hold much stock in the concept of the gender binary, even though I present so stereotypically feminine it's actually angered feminists before. Still to put it simply, someone's physical sex won't bother someone who is pan, same as a bisexual, but at the same time their gender identity is a non-issue too, unlike with most bisexual people.
Sure, and a lot of black/white people won't date white/black people. Creating a specific term for it would then imply that everyone simply under the generic header of "heterosexual" is then racist in their dating choices. So I'm not seeing the need to create specific terms for the additional subsets of the group you are or are not willing to fuck. These lables are really getting out of hand when they go the route of clarifying all subsets too.