Deadpool will be pansexual in his upcoming movie.
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Really it seems to be more the other way around, with people complaining about political correctness gone mad.Coruptin said:
If it turns out he gets complaints about political correctness gone mad AND being XIst...then I'm just fucking done with geek culture. Our squabbling has just gone from petty to downright pathetic.
Oh come on, you know he's going to get complaints from both. The world we live in now is a damned if you do, damned if don't in every scenario. The good news though is at some point the people bitching are just going to become such white noise that artists will finally be able to ignore them again and produce genuine art again.erttheking said:
Not good enough, I need him to gender identify with Mayonnaise as well.
I'll also accept Miracle Whip.
I'll also accept Miracle Whip.
Keep in mind that pansexual is a fairly old term as sexuality terms go, at least anymore. Besides that having a racial preference for dating isn't that unusual, neither is having an age range preference for that matter. Still pansexual is far from clarifying all subsets, it's actually a term/label for people who basically don't count physical sex, or gender identity in relation to their attraction. It might sound unreasonable to have such labels to you, but for people like me whom it has a meaningful definition to identify ones feelings, it's not that unreasonable. Having a way to define one's self correctly is kind of important, at least on a personal level.Lightknight said:
Edit/Side note: I didn't correct your spelling to be mean Lightknight, I did it because every time I spell labels, I misspell it and it drives me batty. So I'm trying to get into the habit of spelling it right every time now.
It just seems like they're saying, "He's bisexual, and that is even if the people are X". It seems to single out "X" as abnormal aberrant subclasses that one wouldn't normally assume to fall into the category when bisexual just means you find both sexes attractive. Sexuality is not typically assigned to gender so much as sex. So a person being transsexual should inherently still be considered within the realm of the standard binary sexes even if the gender/sex combination is more complex. It's not like transsexuals take on the appearance of a third sex. They present as one or the other and sometimes an amalgamation of the two but not a third and distinct sex that would make them not contained within the set of bisexual interests.KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime said:
It is far more normal to differentiate based on subsets when a person mostly meets the overall category except the one being discussed. So I don't think Pansexual makes sense but a term for a bisexual that isn't interested in transsexuals would be viable. The assumption should be made that pansexuals fall within the binary sex category both physically and with the one they identify as.
When time is limited it is more important to convey a message than it is to convey the message formally. Fortunately, lable doesn't have any definition and therefore should never be taken as meaning anything other than label.
First off, transsexual really only applies to people who have had, or are actively seeking a sex change operation, so that's a bit narrow of a term when dealing with everyone who qualifies as transgender. I know quite a lot of trans folk who are non-binary, because identifying differently than your sex assigned at birth tends to add fluidity to one's gender identity. A lot of people who consider them selves bisexual will still never date a woman who has, or had, a penis. For that matter the opposite is true concerning a man who has, or had a vagina. Being able to tell someone you're pansexual, or panromantic is at least a direct way of identifying to them that their plumbing and identity don't matter in terms of interest. Regardless of weather the interest is sexual, romantic, or both.Lightknight said:
It's less about subsets and more about having an easy way to identify one's attractions than socially classifying one's self. It's just the fact that pansexual and panromantic means a person is open to having partners who are non-binary, that makes all the difference. Because trans folk aren't binary people, trans folk might express themselves within the binary, but because identity and biology conflict, we're non-binary by our very nature. So are intersex people for that matter. The reason is that the binary only works when gender identity and physical sex match, when they don't the people therein fall outside the binary. This is the exact reason trans panic is a thing, because people dating someone trans, but not knowing that person is trans, then finding out suddenly... That changes all of the dynamics.
To be totally clear every bisexual person I've ever dated freaked out when they found out I was trans, every pan person I've dated didn't care in the slightest. So the separation is important. I know there are bi folk who'd have no problem with my being trans, but the vast majority do. On the other hand the majority of pan folk don't have any issue with it. So the distinction is important, even if it has basically no application in your life.
I understand but lable still gets a red underline in my spell checker, where label doesn't.Lightknight said:
OH I can see him hitting on a man. Played straight or for laughs is the question. And because it is Deadpool, either way is kinda in charcter for him.WinterWyvern said:
Deadpool is the type of guy that would bone a pencil sharpener. Pansexuality fits way too well. We're likely not going to see him boning a guy anyway.
As a lot of others have said and from what I've heard, this sounds like Deadpool. It really isn't surprising in the least for me.
For as long as art has existed, it has always existed alongside criticism-- social, moral, artistic, etcetera. The freedom of the artist has never been stronger than in the last fifty or so years, in Western Europe at any rate, and it is relatively strong today. The notion that artists are somehow prevented from expressing themselves to a greater extent than in some mythical past, and that critics need to shut up to bring them that missing freedom, is romantic nonsense. "Genuine art" is created alongside criticism throughout history, that's clear.Lightknight said:
Not sure he exists.Du Svardenvyrd said:
But I suppose the best-case scenario would be that they somehow manage to depict Deadpool as a non-straight character in a way that's neither tokenistic and forced, nor comes across as heavy-fisted, self-congratulatory pandering that caricatures and defines the character beyond all his other traits. Basically, they weave it into his character without making him "Sexual Perversion Man".