Dear UK. WTF are you doing ?

[mad825]

V for vendetta anyone?
The U.K. seems to be getting there a bit at a time.

Eh, whatever.

If you fail to co-operate with the police it's pretty much perverting the courts of justice. encrypt all you like so long as it's law-worthy. The terrorist laws are a bit fucked-up but we aren't the only ones conducting this business.

Stenography is a well known tactic by terrorist groups which has been used and abused. To be honest, who would use this? the very technique is cloak and dagger.

 

[Gabanuka]

Not much in school do no work pretending to do work wait for holiday to get out off the uk

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

OT: Hmm, well I'll give you guys a all if things start to get a bit to Orwellian for my liking.

 

[CardinalPiggles]

I don't care really, I have nothing to hide.

Who, besides criminals and legitimate organisations, needs to encrypt any data.

 

[rob_simple]

OT - Meh, It's not as cool as the law about Welshmen and longbows.

Or the Scottish Law which allows the defendent to challenge the Queens' Champion to single combat.

OR the law that makes it illegal to die in the houses of parliament.

 

[mad825]

OT - Meh, It's not as cool as the law about Welshmen and longbows.

Or the Scottish Law which allows the defendent to challenge the Queens' Champion to single combat.

OR the law that makes it illegal to die in the houses of parliament.

Or the 1515 archery law King's Pardon.

 

[The Funslinger]

Just a thought really on this but do you know of anyone actually being convicted of this?, the way i look at it it, it its a pretty old law now and is unlikely to be used on someone by a judge at the end of the day.

I doubt a judge would lock someone away for having something encrpyted and genuinly not knowing how to access it. I would hazard a guess the law is just there when they feel the need to threaten a high profile suspect. You're not gonna get Grandma Dorris in there who downloaded some dodgy music then locked her self out her pc getting thrown in jail for 5 years...

This and the fact that that article is biased as fuck. It's all "You could get jail time for holiday photos!"

It's practically making the assumption that the police are going to go kicking down doors arresting randomers and breaking into their computers because it's a slow day or something.

This is one of those laws where the chances of it affecting an innocent guy are mind numbingly low. So I'm all for it, considering it'll probably get a few more actual criminals away from their 'get out of jail free' card of police not being able to decrypt something when all evidence points to something like child porn, and the owner has "forgotten" how to decrypt it, or misplaced files or tools needed.

 

[AnarchistFish]

Pretty sure that law is irrelevant. You can just claim that the law is against your human rights and when the judgement goes to Brussels you'll be laughing.

The human right defence is really a get out of jail free card in the UK at the moment.

Been reading The Sun, have we?

OT: I hadn't heard about this. Doesn't really concern me but I don't like the sound of it.

 

[SpectacularWebHead]

I don't care really, I have nothing to hide.

Who, besides criminals and legitimate organisations, needs to encrypt any data.

Yeah....Who..... *Hastily unencrypts massive porn stash*
I have nothing to hide!

 

[CardinalPiggles]

I don't care really, I have nothing to hide.

Who, besides criminals and legitimate organisations, needs to encrypt any data.

Anyone who is actually smart and has any sensitive information on something like a laptop.

And by sensitive information you mean...?

Also, don't patronise me.

 

[DirtyJunkieScum]

You are really 42 years old? I can't believe you've got to that age and still believe this kind of sensationalist bullshit. Or more likely you're just some kid trying to get round the escapists age ratings, which goes some way to explaining things.

As others have said, the law is 12 years old and guess what? The UK has not turned into a fascist dictatorship. The only people who think it has are people outside the country who haven't the faintest idea what it's like and are stupid enough to believe shit like this.

 

[MetalMagpie]

That site reminds me of those far-right "New World Order" conspiracy nuts...

Anyway, nothing is actually law in the UK until you have a successful test case. That's the great thing about case-based law. I see no such test case in that article (scanning quickly) which means they're just coming up with whatever interpretation of the law sounds most outrageous.

You can play this game with a lot of stuff in UK law. Until 1997 it was "law" that anyone drawing graffiti on a ship of the Royal Navy must be hanged. Clearly, this law had not actually been upheld by a judge and jury in quite some time!

 

[Zipa]

Pretty sure that if someone took this to the EU high courts who have the higher authority in the matter they would throw it out anyway, not that it would ever happen in the first place being a case based law.

 

[theonecookie]

I'm sorry the police don't go round kicking in peoples doors asking to see peoples data they sorta need warrants and such. So I don't see what the problem is