So, as it lies, most bands have a base-sound for their music, though many incorporate various styles and influences to make each band unique (not saying every band ever is unique). Unless we get into a talk about Avant-Garde and Experimental music, that's a conversation for another day...
Death metal performers and fans
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One more thing from me; Genres aren't meant to be rigid definitions that all bands must adhere to, either. They're just descriptors for a band's base sound, to aid in helping bands describe their sound and for fans to look for music. If I want to find a band that sounds like Slayer, it's great the have the Thrash Metal tag so I can search around for other Thrash Metal bands.
I'm going to repeat the same sentiment I offered in a similar thread; people should be judged by the content of their character, not what media they consume.
Matthew94 said:
Genesis are a Prog Rock band who incorporated many styles into their music, but over the years their sound turned very poppy and I think they wanted to make their music more appealing for a wider audience. But yeah, Prog Rock as a whole is very experimental and that's why the umbrella term Prog Rock was kind of invented. You know, they wanted to push the boundaries of generic rock with unusual time signatures, unconventional song structures, and the plethora of sounds that want to incorporate. That's why Progressive Music as a whole usually sounds completely different. I mean, take a classic 70's Prog Rock band like Camel, then compare to a modern Prog Rock band like Oceansize. The sounds are not even remotely similar, but they both fall into the Prog category...in essence, Progressive music is too hard to define, it's also up there with the Avant-Garde and Experimental umbrella genre terms.
Maybe don't self-identify as "Death" metal then. Don't these bands present themselves as the anti-social choice on T-shirts and album covers? This is the image they sell, and I quite literally mean sell, don't be surprised when idiots buy it.
Mosh pits are the best, you get to run around shoving other people and during this you just become part of the music. I remember that when I saw Alestorm for the first time everybody was moshing to Keelhauled and then when they went straight into Nancy the Tavern Wench we all just formed a big ass circle and headbanged throughout the entirety while singing at the top of our lungs.
Mosh pits are awesome and a lot of the time you make this real strong bond with some of the people in them. Except for the spikey people. Fuck those guys.
Mosh pits are awesome and a lot of the time you make this real strong bond with some of the people in them. Except for the spikey people. Fuck those guys.
Three small quotes? Wow, man. That totally means I feel back entirely on them! The rest of my argument was null and void, I needed those three insults to fall back on! Phew!TheKasp said:
Matthew94 said:
Well, as I said, just because a band has a general genre they fall into, it doesn't mean they never experimented with sound. Panopticon is a one man Black Metal project who (very often) incorporate Bluegrass into his music. He still plays Black Metal music, but he doesn't strictly adhere to that and only that, as is the case with thousands of bands.
hmmmmTTMichael18 said:
[quote/]no, the only people who start arguments over it are dickheads like you who say they don't matter. Of course they matter. Say I really want some Death Metal to listen to and I want to find more bands that play that style. Then when I ask and someone says, "Nah, it's all just Metal"
That doesn't help. I could search 'Metal' and it could come up with a Sludge Metal band. But I don't want to hear Sludge Metal. It's completely different to Death Metal. I want to hear Death Metal. But no, in your perfect world, there aren't sub-genres, there isn't originality, there isn't creativity and there isn't diversity in anything because you were too lazy to learn the difference between Death Metal and Groove Metal.
[b/]****[/b][/quote] <- see the bolded part
you called this person a ****....and the fact is you didnt NEED to do that...it hurts your argument because it makes you look like the less favorable person, theres a difference between douchebaggery like that and usuing swear words to emphasis a point...the only thing you were emphasising there was [i/] neeerrr!!! I dont like you!!![/i]
and you were doing fine untill then
this probably seems weird to you that everyone is acting different as in not swear and such...as somone said THIS IS NOT 4CHAN or some other site
you CANNOT insult the other person in anyway..frustrating as it is somtimes you will get chewed out for it
now if you give a shit, you could keep that in mind....aside from the harsh rules you could actually have a good forum experience
This is why I as a Marilyn Manson fan and a Christian am weary of wearing my cross at his gig. Also I love wearing my Band shirts everywhere, this identifies me as a fan of music and makes for interesting times. I was wearing a Porcupine Tree shirt at a train station and some kid hugged me because he loved Porcupine Tree as wellJonluw said:
It's just convenience.Matthew94 said:
Super extreme cases aside, like Post-Technical Deathgrind, Melodic Black Metal, there are some fundamentally different strains of metal music.
Would you say this
sounds anything like this?
This is the reason the "sub-generes' exist. Really, they are simply descriptors that help when having a discussion about said bands and create and ease of use when looking for new ones.
"Check out this new band I found last night."
"Cool, what do they sound like?"
"Really happy and fast."
That description could be a bunch of things, within metal, it would primarily be some sort of power metal band.
Let's take it further this time.
"It's a power metal band."
Now they have a very wide and general idea of what the band is and sounds like. Granted even within power metal you have a lot of diversity depending on the band. Some PM bands aim for a very light and neo-classical sound, with the guitars somewhat lower in the mix and the keyboard takes precedence. There is also more 'meatier' power metal that relies more on hard and heavy guitar riffs.
Anyway, let's say this
"They are a power metal band with some death metal influences/tendencies."
This could mean a few things. Most usually it indicates that the singer uses a deeper or harsher vocal style as opposed to traditionally sung power metal.
That person now has a slightly better understanding of what they band may be like and whether or not they want to invest further time and effort checking them out/buying CD's.
But no it's not true that any band that sounds different get's there own sub-genere.
That is where this system gets abused.
No, just because a band uses an old style synth amongst a traditionally hardcore backdrop does not mean it is "NES-core".
Matthew94 said:
Thank you, I did indeed read your post from earlier.
Unfortunately we just have different opinions on this issue so instead of dragging on until one or both of us get nasty, I'll wish you a good day( or night as it were) and be on my way.