Deepest Game You've Played (no pun intended)
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For story I'd say Deus Ex, no contest.
Okay, maybe Planescape: Torment, but I've never played it so I can't really say.
For gameplay probably Dwarf Fortress, it's deep, like a chasm full of pain.
Also: Bioshock was not deep, go back to playing with Lego and reading Ayn Rand, you plebs.
Okay, maybe Planescape: Torment, but I've never played it so I can't really say.
For gameplay probably Dwarf Fortress, it's deep, like a chasm full of pain.
Also: Bioshock was not deep, go back to playing with Lego and reading Ayn Rand, you plebs.
This - perhaps the only good story telling game where you really could kill anyone anywhere and have the game respond to that without crashing or locking up - and with a story that you could twist to follow your own nature, heh.DannyBoy451 said:
Also this - however, give them credit, most console kids had had nothing deeper than... *shiver* Deus Ex 2, the bastard child up to that point.DannyBoy451 said:
Shadow of the Colossus. Never had to question whether I would fight numerous mountain-sized Colossi for love. Turns out, after putting myself to that question, No, probably not.
While Ayn Rand is about as deep as a dinner plate, you've obviously never spent time with a bucket of Legos.DannyBoy451 said:
Something like Fallout 1 and 2,Baldur's gate, Daggerfall, Ultima series and UO.
I liked system shock/Bio Shock/Anything made by valve as well.
Surprisingly I also enjoyed going through Golden Sun 2 (Gameboy Advance).
EDIT: How could I forget Deus Ex and Unreal...and Sidmeier's Civilization/Alpha Centauri
I liked system shock/Bio Shock/Anything made by valve as well.
Surprisingly I also enjoyed going through Golden Sun 2 (Gameboy Advance).
EDIT: How could I forget Deus Ex and Unreal...and Sidmeier's Civilization/Alpha Centauri
Bioshock was only deep in the sense that is was hundreds of metres underwater.DannyBoy451 said:
It did absolutely nothing for me.
Deus ex, System Shock 2, and Kotor remain the deepest games ever(IMO)
also, mass effectfinal fantasy tactics for the Gameboy advanced and call of duty 2 should get a mention.
Immortal Defense. Its not just a game. Oh no. Its a story compelling enough to make it into a whirlpool of surreality thats just...well, lets not go there. Suffice it to say though, its pretty damn deep.
Otherwise I'd have to say Traffic Department 2194 from the old DOS era. Great game, that, with one of the deeper stories around with pretty damn good characters.
From a more modern era, World in Conflict would be a good choice.
Otherwise I'd have to say Traffic Department 2194 from the old DOS era. Great game, that, with one of the deeper stories around with pretty damn good characters.
From a more modern era, World in Conflict would be a good choice.
My choice is an awkward tie between Fallout 3, Mass Effect, and Bioshock.
Fallout 3 is a fantastic and massive game that feels like every person and place (with the exception of the generically named NPC's) you encounter has a story, and when I put my mind to it I could be immersed in Fallout's world for literally months. But if at any time I played another game I couldn't for the life of me get back into it, and I was forced to create a new character, which seriously impeded my progress and willingness to reach the bottom.
At the beginning of Mass Effect, it feels like you're being dipped into an infinite ocean of win, but once you get your bearings and explore some more, you realize that not every planet is as massive and thought out as the Citadel (in fact the uncharted planets feel downright procedurally generated). So it's not an ocean, but it's still an Olympic size swimming pool, or maybe a slightly shallow lake, with a fantastic story and the genuine feeling that your choices affect the events taking place. Plus I really like the end credits song. I don't know, it just felt like a great payoff in it's own right for beating the game, like listening to Still Alive was for Mirror's Edge.
And as for Bioshock, it has an atmosphere that tops both of the others. This is most definitely because it's a much more focused game, your progress is fairly linear and there aren't any side quests to mention. But because of this it allowed the developers to really pour into the game an amazing art deco creepy vibe and atmosphere that truly complements the story of the city of Rapture. The story itself is pretty awesome as well, but not too good for replay value. and the controls are a bit sluggish, not refined enough to satisfy the shooter in me and definitely not intricate and varied enough for the RPG fan in me, leaving both unsatisfied.
So in the end I can't really decide which one is the deepest game I've played. Mass Effect gives the best first impressions of depth, but ends up shallower than expected; Fallout 3 is deep but hard to fully submerse into; and Bioshock, while not really that big, is definitely the most polished (and thematically accurate) dive of the three.
Oh, and sorry for the massive amount of text.
Fallout 3 is a fantastic and massive game that feels like every person and place (with the exception of the generically named NPC's) you encounter has a story, and when I put my mind to it I could be immersed in Fallout's world for literally months. But if at any time I played another game I couldn't for the life of me get back into it, and I was forced to create a new character, which seriously impeded my progress and willingness to reach the bottom.
At the beginning of Mass Effect, it feels like you're being dipped into an infinite ocean of win, but once you get your bearings and explore some more, you realize that not every planet is as massive and thought out as the Citadel (in fact the uncharted planets feel downright procedurally generated). So it's not an ocean, but it's still an Olympic size swimming pool, or maybe a slightly shallow lake, with a fantastic story and the genuine feeling that your choices affect the events taking place. Plus I really like the end credits song. I don't know, it just felt like a great payoff in it's own right for beating the game, like listening to Still Alive was for Mirror's Edge.
And as for Bioshock, it has an atmosphere that tops both of the others. This is most definitely because it's a much more focused game, your progress is fairly linear and there aren't any side quests to mention. But because of this it allowed the developers to really pour into the game an amazing art deco creepy vibe and atmosphere that truly complements the story of the city of Rapture. The story itself is pretty awesome as well, but not too good for replay value. and the controls are a bit sluggish, not refined enough to satisfy the shooter in me and definitely not intricate and varied enough for the RPG fan in me, leaving both unsatisfied.
So in the end I can't really decide which one is the deepest game I've played. Mass Effect gives the best first impressions of depth, but ends up shallower than expected; Fallout 3 is deep but hard to fully submerse into; and Bioshock, while not really that big, is definitely the most polished (and thematically accurate) dive of the three.
Oh, and sorry for the massive amount of text.
Metal Gear, Silent Hill, The longest Journey, Killer7, they all got mentioned before 
But I guess Silent Hill (the whole series minus homecoming and origins, haven't played those and cannot tell therefore) takes the cake.
Edit: Thank lord the PC elitists are here to save the day and tell console players and us using both systems that we've seen nothing before. Seriously, if you want to get so deep you can feel better than others, go read a book, don't play games for fucks sake.
But I guess Silent Hill (the whole series minus homecoming and origins, haven't played those and cannot tell therefore) takes the cake.Edit: Thank lord the PC elitists are here to save the day and tell console players and us using both systems that we've seen nothing before. Seriously, if you want to get so deep you can feel better than others, go read a book, don't play games for fucks sake.
From a story perspective, definitely BioShock.
But for depth of gameplay there is no beating Oblivion.
But for depth of gameplay there is no beating Oblivion.