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Doom972

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Looks great, through I find Intel CPUs and nVidia GPUs more reliable. The only advice I can give you is to invest in extra cooling, if possible.

EDIT: Oh, and make sure that the RAM is DDR3.
 
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I would definitely up that psu a bit, long term I would get something along the lines of 600 and above, but that is well within your choice!

(adding lots of usb related items plus under a gaming load that cpu can get a bit power hungry, just want to make sure you have enough to spread around.)

otherwise that build is pretty comparable to mine (although i have a fx 8350 8 core) and i smash on just about everything on ultra, only a few exceptions which i'm perfectly fine with.

edit: also, shameless add in here, you should join/post these questions in the escapist building group!

join us! [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/groups/view/PC-Builders-and-Hardware-Group]


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here are a few psu's I would suggest over yours:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153174
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341041
 

Amir Kondori

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Doom972 said:
Looks great, through I find Intel CPUs and nVidia GPUs more reliable. The only advice I can give you is to invest in extra cooling, if possible.

EDIT: Oh, and make sure that the RAM is DDR3.
There is zero difference in reliability between Intel, Nvidia, and AMD's products. There are performance differences, sure, but not reliability differences.
 

Amir Kondori

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It may blow your budget but this rig has worked very well for me:
i7-3770k
Gigabyte ga-z77x-up4 tb
32GB G.SKILL Trident X F3-1600C7Q-32GTX 7-8-8-24 1.5v
256GB Samsung 840 Pro
2xWestern Digital RE4 2TB (Dell branded)
AMD HD7970 XFX Black Edition FX-797A-TNBC
ThermalTake Water 2.0 Extreme
Lepa G1000 1kw PSU
Corsair 550D
Plextor DVDRW

Accessories:
Yamakasi Q270 27" LED IPS 2560x1440
Cooler Master CMStorm Cherry Blue switches, tenkeyless
Logitech G400 mouse
Samsung Go Mic
Logitech F310 controller
 

Amir Kondori

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If you are on a tight budget Newegg has a good inexpensive combo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1270955

AMD A8-5600K Trinity 3.6GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) APU (CPU + GPU) with Graphic Radeon HD 7560D, ASUS F2A55-M LE Micro ATX Motherboard, CORSAIR XMS 4GB DDR3 Desktop Memory, Seagate 500GB 7200 RPM Hard Drive, Rosewill R519-BK ATX Mid Tower Case

You then just buy the best video card you can afford. If you can afford a small SSD for the OS I would highly recommend that as well.
 

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Some general guidelines for ya:

Prioritize the graphics card. It's expensive but worth it. So get atleast a Radeon 7950 or a GTX 660TI. If you get a worse one then you have to upgrade earlier as well.

Processor, it's either i5 4670K or FX 8320 as those two are the strongest consumerprocessors at a good price.


Powersupply. Make sure you have atleast TWO PCI-E 6+2 type connectors as modern graphicscards might demand that.
My last graphicscard only demanded a PCI-E 6 type connector but my current one demands TWO PCI-E 6 type connectors.
So buy a powersupply so you don't have to get another one in a few years.

Also know that you cannot have two graphiccards with only 500W.
 

BoredAussieGamer

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It looks good.

I do however suggest you get some extra fans. Bitfenix Spectres are cheap, quiet, and pretty good for 120mm fans.
 

Anthony Corrigan

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Go NVIDA or go home :p

Seriously I herd all sorts of bad things about Radeon cards when I was building my system, we went with a GTX660 which is running beautifully
 

ItsNotRudy

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I'd also up the amount RAM. 8 gigs means shit now-a-days.
Classic I-don't-know-what-I'm-talking-about.

Unless you're running a virtual network on your machine or undertaking some heavy editing or compositing, 8GB is quite fine. The whole notion that we've landed in a time where we need a minimum of 16GB is total nonsense.

See here, my PC running a custom game of League of Legends, the opening cinematic for Sleeping Dogs, Adobe Photoshop with my portfolio opened and a new document to paste the screenshot into, iTunes, Skype, Steam downloading a game, Adobe Illustrator with one file open, Chrome with 6 tabs open, including a 10-hour HD video currently playing.



Didn't even hit 60% usage. 8GB DDR3 will do fine. I prefer 8GB of a high quality over 16GB of el cheapo 1066mhz that isn't gonna help you, but cost you more. The only reason I even have an i7 is because of the HT feature missing from the i5 series at the time as I do dabble in graphics and encoding/editing of footage.


@OP: As long as you're not using two or more top notch GFX cards, that PSU is fine. I'm running an i7 2600 @ 3.8gHz, Corsair Vengeance 1600mHz 8GB DDR3, an OCed EVGA GTX580 2GB, 3 harddisks, 6 USB periphals, 6 fans inside the casing and an iPhone4 charging on a Corsair 450W PSU.

A lot of people running their mouth telling you you need a 600+ PSU, dozens of RAM and a super expensive graphics card to fare well in todays gaming market are full of it.

OP, I suggest switching to Windows 8 and installing a little extension called Start8 ($5) to restore the Windows 7 Menu to Windows 8 with more features to boot. Windows 8 is a lot more snappy and responsive and runs lighter as well on your hardware. I have not encountered any programs other than LA Noire (which is a poorly coded piece of crap as it is when it does 'run' on Win7) not to work under Windows 8.

I don't know your budget or your storage needs, but after I got my first SSD (a different type of harddisk to put it simple where you pay for speed, not size) I was and still am hooked. It makes working with things so much faster. I'd opt for a 500GB 7200RPM as a secondary disk if budget is a problem and grab a 128GB SSD, like the Crucial M4.

You really don't need that 6-core for gaming. Quad will suffice. Save yourself the costs. No programs other than video encoders really address your other cores. Hell, most games only address two. Whatever CPU you decide to get, you can get the cheaper ones of any line. Games aren't CPU-intensive and it isn't gonna matter much if you pick that i5 with 3.2gHz or the one with 3.6gHz for $40 more for example. (inb4 someone posts benchmark results where the latter gets 2 whole FPS more on a worthless stress test)

I prefer Nvidia cards for CUDA (video encoding and also playback) and their drivers. I've owned more than one Radeon, and drivers have been an issue more than once, forcing me to downgrade or adjust some crap to deal with games that were considered 'older' (textures poofing on me on Halo 1 and odd polygon issues in Perfect World) or too new. I also found the Radeon anti-aliasing to be more grainy than Geforce cards. But in the end it's all preference, and for a few bucks less you can get similar performance to an Nvidia card with the same specs.
 

The White Hunter

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ItsNotRudy said:
A lot of people running their mouth telling you you need a 600+ PSU, dozens of RAM and a super expensive graphics card to fare well in todays gaming market are full of it.
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Dude you can run a 4770K overclocked with a Titan on a 500W PSU. Too many people are full of shit when it comes to power supplies these days.

Wanna know what I game on at the moment?

Intel Pentium E5700 Dual-Core @3GHz
ATi Radeon HD 4770 (ASUS aftermarket thing, overclocked a tiny bit)
3GB DDR3 @ 766

on a 350W shitty no-name PSU.

Really do need a new PC but I can run almost any game still at 1600 x 900.

OT: Bump that 7850 to a 7870 Tahiti LE, or a 7950 if you can stretch the budget that far. It's a huge performance leap and it'll save you from upgrading for alonger time. It'll be cheaper in the long run. Particularly the 7870 Tahiti models, it's basically a retarded 7950 for £180 and destroys everything in it's price range for bang for buck. It's well worth the extra cash on your part, the 7950 not as much.

And ignore whchever asshat said to buy an 8320 cpu. Do however buy yourself a FX-6350 over the 6300, the clock jump is much nicer.

And iirc that motherboard has serious compatibility issues with the piledriver FX line (it may have just been the 8 cores) and you may want to consider buying a comparable ASUS or ASrock board.

THough if money isn't a huge concern I also recommend looking into a Haswell build, AMD really can't compete on the CPU side these days and thats a shame because it means I can't recommend the cheaper platform without ifs and buts.

Their graphics however offer excellent bang for buck and come highly recommended.
 

The White Hunter

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shapaza said:
ItsNotRudy said:
You really don't need that 6-core for gaming. Quad will suffice. Save yourself the costs. No programs other than video encoders really address your other cores. Hell, most games only address two. Whatever CPU you decide to get, you can get the cheaper ones of any line. Games aren't CPU-intensive and it isn't gonna matter much if you pick that i5 with 3.2gHz or the one with 3.6gHz for $40 more for example. (inb4 someone posts benchmark results where the latter gets 2 whole FPS more on a worthless stress test)
http://www.amazon.com/AMD-FX-Series-Six-Core-Processor-FD6300WMHKBOX/dp/B009O7YORK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1373822268&sr=8-1&keywords=amd+fx+6300

That's the CPU I'm planning on getting. Is it really that expensive? I can't seem to find any other CPUs cheaper than it that AREN'T significantly weaker
Your cpu is fine and is likely to work very well for a good few years without holding anything back. I'd suggest bumping to the higher clocked 6350 if you can find a good price, but don't bother bumping to an i5 unless you care about power consumption and productivity. For pure gaming, the hex-core you chose is at a great price point.

And as I mentioned look into your motherboard a bit, I recently built an FX system for a friend and it really didn't play nice with the piledriver CPU's. Something like an ASRock extreme 4 is less likely to be a pain, or if you can stretch your money ASUS M5A97 Evo R2.0 is definately the way to go.

And try get hold of the latest revision of your motherboard too, if in doubt ask the retailer, just to make sure it's compatible and hopefully not have to bother with updating your bios.
 

ItsNotRudy

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shapaza said:
ItsNotRudy said:
You really don't need that 6-core for gaming. Quad will suffice. Save yourself the costs. No programs other than video encoders really address your other cores. Hell, most games only address two. Whatever CPU you decide to get, you can get the cheaper ones of any line. Games aren't CPU-intensive and it isn't gonna matter much if you pick that i5 with 3.2gHz or the one with 3.6gHz for $40 more for example. (inb4 someone posts benchmark results where the latter gets 2 whole FPS more on a worthless stress test)
http://www.amazon.com/AMD-FX-Series-Six-Core-Processor-FD6300WMHKBOX/dp/B009O7YORK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1373822268&sr=8-1&keywords=amd+fx+6300

That's the CPU I'm planning on getting. Is it really that expensive? I can't seem to find any other CPUs cheaper than it that AREN'T significantly weaker
That's actually a good CPU when you're on a tight budget, but want a lot of power. I have to chime in with the rest, get an Asus motherboard that fits your needs. You'll notice a lot of iterations of motherboards, the difference between the first or the next is mostly features, memory limits etc. Be sure to read the fine print, so to say.

The aforementioned
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ASUS M5A97 Evo R2.0
actually is a really good suggestion. I don't like ASRock boards myself. If you do buy that motherboard, remember that the limit for RAM is DDR3 1333MHz. Buying anything higher will run you more and will either be clocked down or give you issues when building it into your rig.
 

ItsNotRudy

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shapaza said:
ItsNotRudy said:
The aforementioned
SkarKrow said:
ASUS M5A97 Evo R2.0
actually is a really good suggestion. I don't like ASRock boards myself. If you do buy that motherboard, remember that the limit for RAM is DDR3 1333MHz. Buying anything higher will run you more and will either be clocked down or give you issues when building it into your rig.
Thank you guys so much for all your help! I'll probably get that motherboard instead.

Do you guys have any recommendations for monitors? I'm still not sure what exactly I should be looking for in a monitor or what a reasonable price range is for them.

Also, is there a way of getting the Windows 7 OS for cheap? I really don't want to pay $100 for it...
I'd go for Windows 8. It runs a lot better than Windows 7. I suggested this a few posts earlier. Start button can also be restored (and improved from Win7) with Start8($5).

A trick you can do is buy the upgrade disc instead of the retail. Upgrade discs can be installed as full versions also by booting from them instead of starting them from an existing install of Windows. Make sure you buy the 64-bit version of Win7 or 8, whichever you decide. Technically you're supposed to already own an OS but.. nobody's gonna check. The upgrade disc is about 50 euros in my country. If you're a student, try and see if you can get it via school. I got my keys for Win7, 8 and server editions for free this way.
 
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shapaza said:
ItsNotRudy said:
The aforementioned
SkarKrow said:
ASUS M5A97 Evo R2.0
actually is a really good suggestion. I don't like ASRock boards myself. If you do buy that motherboard, remember that the limit for RAM is DDR3 1333MHz. Buying anything higher will run you more and will either be clocked down or give you issues when building it into your rig.
Thank you guys so much for all your help! I'll probably get that motherboard instead.

Do you guys have any recommendations for monitors? I'm still not sure what exactly I should be looking for in a monitor or what a reasonable price range is for them.

Also, is there a way of getting the Windows 7 OS for cheap? I really don't want to pay $100 for it...
Yes, there absolutely is. And it works flawlessly.

However, if I were to suggest it, I would receive a ban.

I hope you can figure out what that means.

{disclaimer: I don't condone illegal things, people who do them should be put in a stockade and coated with stinky butter}

Otherwise, your setup looks fine.

As a final note, I recommend asking what /g/ thinks of the build. I went to them for my final verdict when I built a PC and they managed to cut my costs quite a bit.

EDIT: Oh and it's a decent idea to pick up a solid state drive along with your platter, if you have the money.
 

Elvis Starburst

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Looks pretty sweet! IF your budget can only afford all of that, then that's a good build to go with~ If you could afford it though, maybe up the graphics card to a 7950 like I am, or even get a 8350 8-core. Might send your budget up a bit, but if you choose to, give the GPU a boost.

Then again, if you're just gaming and not going hardcore and wanting every single benchmark to blow your fucking mind, what you have will do. If you want it to last for a good while and have some great frame rates, 7950 for sure. Hope this helps!