Delicious Irony: Record Labels To Pay $45 Million for Pirating Artists? Music
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Makes sense to me. In whole, artists lose that much money per year(or more) to piracy in the first place
And it isn't like the labels need it more than the artists do. The labels are expansive companies with marketing departments, while the artists have to survive off raman even without the piracy.
As the article stated, this has happened in the past, so the labels will get on fine.
And it isn't like the labels need it more than the artists do. The labels are expansive companies with marketing departments, while the artists have to survive off raman even without the piracy.
As the article stated, this has happened in the past, so the labels will get on fine.
I hereby donate my middle fingers for Warner, Sony BMG, EMI and Universal Music's viewing pleasure.
Seriously, how am I supposed to support your anti-piracy stance when you pull off this fine little mess?
Against MY country!?
Seriously, how am I supposed to support your anti-piracy stance when you pull off this fine little mess?
Against MY country!?
AHAHA!
This is the most delightfully hilarious thing I've seen in a while. Oh the schadenfreude. I could not be enjoying this anymore than I am right now.
This is the most delightfully hilarious thing I've seen in a while. Oh the schadenfreude. I could not be enjoying this anymore than I am right now.
This reminds me of months ago when Warner Bros. was caught pirating anti-pirating software.
I love the news sometimes.
I love the news sometimes.
That is just awesome, I'm bookmarking that and gloating every day. However it is a shame they settled out of court rather than suing them in court and setting a precident, this way they may feel free to keep on doing it.
Also, am I correct in thinking that it's only in Canada that they can do this due to the idiosyncracies of the Canadian copyright law?
Also, am I correct in thinking that it's only in Canada that they can do this due to the idiosyncracies of the Canadian copyright law?
I'm reminded of when the RIAA was caught pirating blogging software that was free for personal use, and asked only a small payment for business use. There excuse was that they where currently doing in house testing of the software.
So how come that excuse (trying it out) doesn't work in court RIAA. The double standards are ridiculous especially in light of the fact that they are seeing more and more sales every year.
So how come that excuse (trying it out) doesn't work in court RIAA. The double standards are ridiculous especially in light of the fact that they are seeing more and more sales every year.
I'm not too happy with the case because it's a cop-out. The Canadian 'RIAA' (the CRIA) paid $45m for 300 songs - $150,000 per song - while they charge individuals millions... and the CRIA profited from their act of piracy. Not only is the payout a pitiful amount but the CRIA has not admitted they pirated or did anything wrong. Not only that, this case weakens any future case of this nature, meaning that we may see such double standards perpetuated by the legal system.
I agree. However if they hadn't taken the settlement they would have been in a legal battle that could have potentially lasted up to 15 years. Considering the cost of such an endeavour, the defense would merely have waited them out until their finances dried up. That is one of the reasons why the legal system is so shit. Only corporations can sue other corporations.stompy said:
As an industry insider I can tell you that the artists made a big mistake by going class-action with that. Now that a settlement has been agreed, the labels have just secured carte blanche to keep on shafting them. What any sensible artist should have done is review their individual contract with a music industry lawyer and get some sort of clause in there negotiated which protects them from that sort of thing, with a set term for the record company to pay royalties and specified compensation/withholdings/whatever if they don't.Ribonuge said:
Oh, I actually feel guilty for not filesharing all my music. This is why big business sucks. Its all about the profit margin, and the soulless hypocritical criminal turds at the top don't care about anyone but their label.
On another note, did anyone ever get successfully sued for illegal downloading, or how did those cases end up?
On another note, did anyone ever get successfully sued for illegal downloading, or how did those cases end up?
Nom nom nom
Serves the bastards right. Though I really have to agree with the OP, the full 6 billion would be far more appropriate considering both the amount of stupid lawsuits those guys file all the time as well as the ridiculous sums they ask from the accused.
I can definitely understand that sentiment and it does explain why they folded for such a (relatively) paltry amount.Ribonuge said:
Doesn't mean that I'm not made at the non-binding precedent made though... (not at the artists but at the system).
PS: My understanding of civil cases is somewhat limited - so sorry if it's a dumb question - but how exactly could the defence 'wait out' the plaintiff?
Actually, if they were doing RIAA math, the total value of the 300,000 songs would have been approximately 4.5 Trillion dollars. That's the average RIAA lawsuit case per song of 150,000 dollars.
Yes, they have succeeded in lawsuits before and failed to collect values of 150,000 dollars per song.
I know if I was getting sued for piracy there are ways to lock it up away from their paws. You have to find them yourselves though, because it's not that easy to explain.
Yes, they have succeeded in lawsuits before and failed to collect values of 150,000 dollars per song.
I know if I was getting sued for piracy there are ways to lock it up away from their paws. You have to find them yourselves though, because it's not that easy to explain.
Ohh yes, I remember that. Haaah, that was a good one. BZZZZT!TheYellowCellPhone said:
OT; A relatively small sum for a record company. It's like having to pay for the repair bills from a rock concert and keep the rest you gained from it.
God-damn the law is too merciful at times.