Depiction of Muhammad?

[maddawg IAJI]

I would prefer to be culturally tolerant. If a person doesn't want a certain religious leader drawn or depicted in artwork then fine. I think I can live with that. I mean, its not like I'll die unless everything is free game to speak and I'm not an artistic type anyways.

Just don't try to censor other people if/when they want to depict it.

Why would they want to though? If a person looking for inspiration for a drawing looks toward Muhammad for inspiration is most likely looking for religious inspiration or inspiration for a joke. The former should have enough decency to know that such a valued icon in the Islamic community the person is and if they even plan to go through with it should do so with the utmost respect to the person and community they follow. You wouldn't want people to portray your life-long icon in a bad light would you?

The latter just sinks incredibly low to get a cheap laugh in at another person's expense. Drawing Muhammad is one thing, making a visual joke about him is offensive and really shouldn't be tolerated. There is art and then there is bad humor. One is a great way to showcase individuality and creativity. The other is just done between immature people at a party.

 

[370999]

Well yeah freedom of speech includes the right to act like an asshole and be as insulting as you wish. There is no right to not be offended but my right to say offensive things is coded into law. Sorry if you don't like it but don't pretend that isn't what it means.

Worth noting that there is always social costs in saying things. But yes I can be a jerk with free speech and you can be a jerk back to me, or you can move to somewhere else and not talk to me.


Honestly my opinion is that if Christian's can withstand Piss Christ, the surely South Park shouldn't hurt that much. And even if it does then don't want the episode and don't buy the DVDs.

 

[Nieroshai]

Here's how I see it. As long as art like "Piss Christ"(crucifix in a jar of urine) or the Virgin Mary covered in dung are protected by free speech rights, South Paark should be able to say whatever they want about any religion whatsoever. Besides, it's a sign of humility to be able to laugh at yourself instead of meaking threats when someone laughs at you. South Park bashes Conservatives and Christians all the time, but I enjoy the show nonetheless because it's funny.

Emphasis added.

I find this position to be, as written, extremely offensive.

Rights should not be only allowed only based on the rights of others.

Either EVERYONE has rights or NOBODY has rights. It's not "if I get it, you can have it too", because that so easily becomes "if I don't get it, YOU can't have it either!"

Of course, as I mentioned at the beginning, you might not have meant to say this, but the way that it is written... offensive to the extreme to any supporter of free speech.

OK, explain this. No, really. I live in a country that demands I not question the right of others to ridicule my beliefs. It is perfectly ok to deride Christianity, and common in all forms of media. I'm not trying to be offensive in any way, I'm pointing out how my culture defends some, but allows the active attack of others. That was my point: here in America you can GET AWAY WITH "PISS CHRIST" but South Park can't DEPICT Mohammed in any way. I accept the right to free speech no matter how offensive it is, which is why this burns me. If I have to agree that something so horrendously offensive is protected free speech, American Muslims need to suck it up because Christianity gets MUCH more negative press than Islam now aside from the war itself.

 

[Theistic]

the editor said something akin to (mind, I'm not too sure since I don't remember but this should be accurate): "Those bloody women-opressing towelheads sure as hell aren't going to tell us what to print!"
Well, what the fuck was that for?

Yea, he never said that.
Stop making up shit

I told you, that was the gist of it. And I'm not making shit up, it was what I heard.
I was around ten, I'll admit, but I remember the words clear as day. The desks with articles, the windows out to the green yard.
The fat guy being stupid.
I don't remember if it was on TV2 or DR though. I tried digging it up but it's years ago so I can't prove that I heard it since nothing has archived it for so long.

 

[interspark]

no i dont think theres anything wrong with that! if the muslims dont want their deity or leader.. or whatever (not my specialist subject), shown then that's their choice, rather like copyrighting something i guess