Ha. My mom used to do something like that, but it was an attempt to get me to clean my room. Didn't work too well, because I had no problem reading whatever was available. Anything other than cleaning my room.
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There will always be kids who don't like reading, that's just of those things that won't change no matter what you do. Derpriving people of their entertainment of choice is a stupid idea. I've read and played games my whole life.
I agree with you about coercion but not reward. I think I agree with operant conditioning which is the reinforcement of behavior you wish to see repeated.Scars Unseen said:
For the record though my ma always encouraged, praised and enabled my reading and when it comes to games, well she's the one who started ME on them so she would definitely disagree that they can interfere with education. Especially considering that now I read mostly non-fiction and also write. So I really don't think that games discourage reading I just think they give you another way to do so, or at least they once did.
When have people EVER used logic when dealing with a problem involving video games?
And WHAT is a 'routser module', Captcha?!
And WHAT is a 'routser module', Captcha?!
Nothing anywhere has made me read more than videogames. I read mostly about history to understand what goes on, but also when there are references that I don't get.
I think playing FF7 as a child helped increase my reading speed and made me realize my love of story telling more so than any book at the time. But of course this is because the gross majority of required reading in schools is a bucket of samey classic crap that you have to read because it was considered good 70+ years ago and apparently if you can't enjoy something that goes against all conventional ways of current story telling then you're some kind of retard.
Reading is great. There are so many wonderful stories out that will be 1000x more immersive then most games, yet the author of the article comes off as some smary dipshit and completely ignores the societal/biological reasons for boys playing video games more than girls and lacking more so on the reading department. Which in my mind makes his stupid smug cock blow a load of fail all over his own face.
Dear author of this article: While lack of reading and overabundance of video game playing is a problem among children your lack of knowledge of even basic child psychology leads me to tell you to shut the fuck up.
Reading is great. There are so many wonderful stories out that will be 1000x more immersive then most games, yet the author of the article comes off as some smary dipshit and completely ignores the societal/biological reasons for boys playing video games more than girls and lacking more so on the reading department. Which in my mind makes his stupid smug cock blow a load of fail all over his own face.
Dear author of this article: While lack of reading and overabundance of video game playing is a problem among children your lack of knowledge of even basic child psychology leads me to tell you to shut the fuck up.
I love reading books I want to read. Give me a huge book about something I want to read and I'll have it done in 3 days. Hand me 30 pages of something I don't care about and I may never finish it.
Forcing them to read is probably a bad idea like people have already said. More likely to do harm than good.
Forcing them to read is probably a bad idea like people have already said. More likely to do harm than good.
I read a lot, I game a lot, I write a lot. Reading and gaming are in constant war for my attention so it isn't like one overshadows the other entirely...
But I'm apparently part of a minority.
But I'm apparently part of a minority.
As a child I despised reading. I tried avoiding Harry Potter all my life until my primary school teacher decided to force that down my ears (I swear that's some form of assault). HOWEVER I deem reading to be a form of "culture" now with seperate sub-cultures depending on what genre is read/prefered. Let's just say, I don't expect the rough-em tough-em mans-man watching the football and screaming his beer all over the tv would then turn around and say "man I could really go for a book now".
A few years back I decided I should really culture myself because I like the idea of sitting in a tall chair wearing those dressing gowns that look like curtains while smoking a pipe and drinking brandy while reading a leather bound book. It was only then that I really got into reading so I've gone through many classics like Sherlock Holmes, Monkey, Of Mice and Men, Dracula, Dorian Gray, Great Expectations etc. and I've also gone through some more modern ones too (trying to avoid the whole "romantic lovey dub book scene" I must admit...my sister reads them and if it's not "I HATE THAT FILM BECAUSE IT'S NO TRUE TO THE BOOK" it's "WAAAH SHE GOT CANCER AND DIED AND I DIDN'T SEE IT COMING BECAUSE THE BOOK ONLY HAD THE NAME 'Lung Cancer of the Suspicious Minds'").
End point, reading needs to be a want more than a need. If you want people to read more, add instructions to everything like they do in Japan (having instructions on toilet paper etc). Don't force people to be "cultured", sure, let them know there's a door there, but I'd like to point out we need the common uncultured folk to do the simple important tasks, while the rest of us contemplate how would the mona lisa look if she was on her side and had rainbows pouring out of her nose.
A few years back I decided I should really culture myself because I like the idea of sitting in a tall chair wearing those dressing gowns that look like curtains while smoking a pipe and drinking brandy while reading a leather bound book. It was only then that I really got into reading so I've gone through many classics like Sherlock Holmes, Monkey, Of Mice and Men, Dracula, Dorian Gray, Great Expectations etc. and I've also gone through some more modern ones too (trying to avoid the whole "romantic lovey dub book scene" I must admit...my sister reads them and if it's not "I HATE THAT FILM BECAUSE IT'S NO TRUE TO THE BOOK" it's "WAAAH SHE GOT CANCER AND DIED AND I DIDN'T SEE IT COMING BECAUSE THE BOOK ONLY HAD THE NAME 'Lung Cancer of the Suspicious Minds'").
End point, reading needs to be a want more than a need. If you want people to read more, add instructions to everything like they do in Japan (having instructions on toilet paper etc). Don't force people to be "cultured", sure, let them know there's a door there, but I'd like to point out we need the common uncultured folk to do the simple important tasks, while the rest of us contemplate how would the mona lisa look if she was on her side and had rainbows pouring out of her nose.
The proposed solution is absolutely nonsensical, and blatantly opposite to the most basic tenets of psychology. His statistical argument is also fallible; in my experience, those who have played the most video games have often had the best grades.me.vicky said:
It's both.
It works. I know, i've been in the situation before.
It's also pointless, because I'm not going to read anything that is any better than anything I would play. Books are great when they actually teach you something relevant to your interests or something you might actually use, but that's fairly rare.
It works. I know, i've been in the situation before.
It's also pointless, because I'm not going to read anything that is any better than anything I would play. Books are great when they actually teach you something relevant to your interests or something you might actually use, but that's fairly rare.
...are you me?Sightless Wisdom said:
My parents read to me for as long as I can remember and I started gaming on an old Mac my dad picked up when the uni he worked at were upgrading their computers when I was about 2. Now at 18 I love both of these past times.
Agreed.Dark Knifer said:
Also, I got my love of reading from video games at first, so fuck that. I do both very often now, equally.