Destiny is "meh" compared to what exactly?

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stroopwafel

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VoidWanderer said:
This game's budget was over 500 million dollars. And it went to to graphics and marketing. Any half-decent writer could've farted out a better story than 'the coming darkness'.

I agree marketing budgets are absurd these days and one of the reasons designers have to make so many concessions to publishers to recoup their investments; part of it probably also went(considering its a whole new IP) to the creation of the toolsets for this game and assets they can re-use for DLC and/or sequels.

Even people who don't like the game many to most admit the gunplay is excellent and so is the overall aesthetic of the game. So I think if they fix the mission variety, add an actually interesting story and make the 'grinding' aspect more fun and rewarding Destiny 2 could be the game many hoped Destiny 1 would be. I personally think its still a great game but can also see why many others don't like it. Espescially those who need a story to draw them in.
 

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I don't understand the bashing, I really like destiny. It looks technically and stylistically superb in pictures, video content is kinda samey and boring though. It's a game to watch, not to play. And even then, the content will become repetitive quite quickly.
 

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somonels said:
I don't understand the bashing, I really like destiny. It looks technically and stylistically superb in pictures, video content is kinda samey and boring though. It's a game to watch, not to play. And even then, the content will become repetitive quite quickly.
I think that's why people are bashing it.

A lot of people were, I think, expecting THE console MMO answer to WoW.

What they got was a slicker, more boring version of Borderlands.
 

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I ave played it myself and to be honest the story is very lacking in depth, the only time we get back story is if we go onto a website or on are smart devices also the loot system is flawed, Angry joe just put out a review today showing how the loot system rewards players it does not matter how hard or skilled you are if your in first place your getting fucked in loot.

I went 16/0 in a match and got nothing for it at the end of a game and I can bust my ass in strikes and maybe get some crafting parts.
 

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Well, I almost didn't buy it due to the mixed reviews, but ultimately curiosity won, and I got the game 2 days ago.

First the bad: the story doesn't really make any sense being even below a b movie script. I am still trying to figure out the differences between the enemies I am facing, and why. Concepts such as "The Darkness", "The Traveller" and so on are quite generic and really doesn't say much about anything.


Now the good: game play wise, the game is top notch. Weapons are responsive, combat is solid. I have to say that I haven't tried competitive multiplayer yet, just co-op missions.

I have heard from many people say that sometimes the maps feel desolate... but I believe this is done on purpose, you are after all on the brink of extinction, and is not like combat areas are difficult to find.
 

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somonels said:
I don't understand the bashing, I really like destiny. It looks technically and stylistically superb in pictures, video content is kinda samey and boring though. It's a game to watch, not to play. And even then, the content will become repetitive quite quickly.
Well, from my experience; the "bashing" I give Destiny is that it's this bland hodge-podge of market-proven tropes from some mega-popular games made in the last 8 years.

I've seen it all done before, and done better.
It's definitely NOT a "Greater than the sum of its parts".

Borderlands has a similar core concept and isn't especially "deep" either, but at least it offers a lot of amusing dialog, characters, visual style without handcuffing me to online features. The campaign in Destiny is so short that it's worthless; it's more like an 8 hour tutorial for how you're going to grind your brains out.
 

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Eliam_Dar said:
Well, I almost didn't buy it due to the mixed reviews, but ultimately curiosity won, and I got the game 2 days ago.

First the bad: the story doesn't really make any sense being even below a b movie script. I am still trying to figure out the differences between the enemies I am facing, and why. Concepts such as "The Darkness", "The Traveller" and so on are quite generic and really doesn't say much about anything.
Well, the goofy out of game story thing does shed some light there, albeit it doesn't explain much for motivations.

The Fallen were some sort of warrior race, its not clear if they work for the Darkness or just came into the warzone for giggles. The Awoken (who aren't particularly explained) seemingly killed/imprisoned all their actual leaders, causing them to collapse into scavenging space pirates.

The Hive apparently worship the Darkness, being able to do rituals and stuff. They grow out of mushrooms or some sort of mold or something. Basically they function as a cult of sorts. By logical theory, they should be the main antagonists (and seem to be the most relevant, as their final mission involves stopping them destroying the Traveller, while the actual final mission is just going and peeing on the Vex's lawn to deal with a threat that is never established.

The Vex are some sort of post-singularity race that managed to get outside of space-time. They don't work for the Darkness, its not really explained what they're doing in the solar system (other then assimilating stuff). Some community speculation guesses that the Traveler mucks about with the fabric of reality and the Vex showed as evil knight-templar guardian bots because of it.

The Kabal are just roaming generic warrior race guys, who fight for fun and sport. Again, they don't serve the Darkness, and seem to be relatively neutral (since they just sit on Mars). It doesn't explain why they just showed up in the Solar System.

Perhaps most confusing in the storyline, is it makes a great deal of building up the Vex as the imminent threat once it introduces them, but it never actually has them doing anything as an imminent threat. They've been on Venus for years, and haven't assimilated it, and show up on Mars only because you stole the Gatelord's eye and are obviously planning to attack the Garden. There's no indication that they've ever attempted to attack Earth in however many centuries its been.
 

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The term Meh is most often used as a conotation for apathy or being apathetic. Also meaning indifferent or lacking emotion toward something. Thats how I felt about destiny. Now granted I dont own destiny (I dont even own a PS4) I played it on a friends console for awhile and got around level 3 or 4 with a spellcaster styled class (I think it was called warlock?) so obviously I cant come at the game from an experienced perspective. All I can really say is it failed to grab me and make me want to play more.

The world felt very static to me and in that way reminded me of Xenoclash 2's world without the interesting things to look at. It was empty of any sense of emotion and didnt seem to have a direction it was going.

The story was either confusing or nonexistant. I understand you're supposed to consult a wiki to figure it out but thats a bad way to do things. Dark souls had minimalistic storytelling to but it was still in the game and the unclear questions have spurred a great deal of debate within the community. Destiny seems to want to do that same minimalistic style but it just doesnt do it very well IMO.

For me I didnt have to compare it to other games to get a general feeling of apathy toward the game. Also from where I stand there tend to be two major thoughts about the game. 1. Its amazing and exactly what they wanted in an FPS or 2. Its just ok. I dont think Ive heard anyone say its a bad game yet and I didnt feel that way either. These generalizations tell me that Destiny is probably more of a niche title and thats great. Im happy people are getting the game they always wanted. Its just not for me

Now I could compare it to other games and find it wanting but I think Destiny is a game you want to judge on its own merits. I have a feeling that, much like Warframe, Destiny is going to be an open developed game moving forward. If so its only going to get better and one day more people may love it. Thats just not today
 

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Dirty Hipsters said:
It's meh compared to pretty much any RPG because doesn't have much of a story to speak of, no interesting characters, and no particularly exciting loot.
Throw in it's meh compared to any good MMO because it really doesn't reward you for raiding and from my understanding lacks a solid vanity system.
 

hermes

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Make your pick:
- It is rather meh in terms of loot when compared to other loot based RPG (Diablo, Torchlight, Borderlands)
- It is rather meh in terms of gunplay when compared to other FPS (Halo, Call of Duty, Rage)
- It is rather meh in terms of variety when compared to other MMO (Guild Wars, Warframe)
- It is rather meh in terms of world building when compared to other Science Fiction games (Halo, Mass Effect, Resistance)