Headshots standing still increases accuracy, ai strafing to dodge bullets, sadly its hybrid and the mix is not well implemented if modern gamer plays it, he is gonna hate it, imo i have to be one of the few people that believe that human revolution not using rpg skills for combat is a great thing.Mr.K. said:That might be because it is an RPG and not an FPS, skills are character based not user based.MacJack said:Lets make one thing clear, the shooting SUCKS in deus ex. You start with extremely innacurate weapons and every time you take a step forward you raddically lose accuracy, if you stand still you get more accurate but it takes about 5 secondsThe time gets less and less as you increase your skills and ducking or moving slowly does not benefit you, you will still lose accuracy very fast if moving despite what you do. On top of that the weapons in the game kinda suck, a pistol with 6 bullets in the future that does not kill with headshots half of he time and a tranquilizer crossbow that takes time to kill someone.
As you see, as an fps, it sucks badly and that REALLY brings down the game since in comparison with new fps, it really feels like a huge problem with the game.
OT: If you want to see what quality games were back in the day this is a must play.
No you are in the majority, you forget 80% of the current gamer market are kids that came into gaming with modern shooters and will play it because it fits that bill, and when Deus Ex launches the forums will light up with comments how Call a Duty is a better shooter...MacJack said:imo i have to be one of the few people that believe that human revolution not using rpg skills for combat is a great thing.
The time isn't the point, its the feeling.paynexkiller said:Excuse me, it took you till College to realise women where beautiful?ColdStorage said:Deus Ex is the game every gamer needs in their collection, you need to experience it, I wont spoil it for you but what you do has an actual direct outcome in cut scenes but you actually feel attached to it because it was your choice.
Deus Ex is the gamers version of a ravers Human Traffic, its our Quadrophenia moment as it were.
Deus Ex is Keith Moon drumming for 20 minutes straight, its Concorde taking flight for the first time, its when your in college and you suddenly realise that women are beautiful, its seeing your first sunset...
Buy it.
Also, couldn't recommend this game. But then I just bought KOTOR the other day so.
Kids? Mass effect one had crappy combat, mass effect 2 was basicly action but it was not as crap.Mr.K. said:No you are in the majority, you forget 80% of the current gamer market are kids that came into gaming with modern shooters and will play it because it fits that bill, and when Deus Ex launches the forums will light up with comments how Call a Duty is a better shooter...MacJack said:imo i have to be one of the few people that believe that human revolution not using rpg skills for combat is a great thing.
Ditching tactical combat for spray and pray will surely get them better sales but will also immediately sink it into the brown and gray world of mediocre shooters, which is exactly what Deus Ex was never about.
No idea why you bring up ME, it has no correlation to this.MacJack said:Kids? Mass effect one had crappy combat, mass effect 2 was basicly action but it was not as crap.
Thats called improvment and lets not fool ourselfs, deus ex combat system was certainly a bg turd in an otherwise perfect game.
What i am worried is that the videos so far make it look like rainbow six vegas in which plays more like gear of war rather an fps and i dont like that.
In any case from what i saw the game retains the nonlinear gameplay limite choice of augs and some sort of praxis points, ofcourse cod is a better "shooter" but this game aims something diffirent i hope it wont flop, which right now is more of the issue than not beeing like cod resulting into that.
Voice acting was actually superb dude.Onyx Oblivion said:At $2.50 you should get it.
If you hate it, you can at least laugh at the voice acting!
As i said, better be action like than sucking, i admit it, comabt in deus ex sucked, cant think of a game with worse combat...oh wait the sequel which did not even have headshos so no skill whatsoever you just shoot till someone dies. There are games that did combat skill points better than deus ex. Sure it wont be as squad as the first but atlest combat wont suck and the game WILL be better than the first.Mr.K. said:No idea why you bring up ME, it has no correlation to this.MacJack said:Kids? Mass effect one had crappy combat, mass effect 2 was basicly action but it was not as crap.
Thats called improvment and lets not fool ourselfs, deus ex combat system was certainly a bg turd in an otherwise perfect game.
What i am worried is that the videos so far make it look like rainbow six vegas in which plays more like gear of war rather an fps and i dont like that.
In any case from what i saw the game retains the nonlinear gameplay limite choice of augs and some sort of praxis points, ofcourse cod is a better "shooter" but this game aims something diffirent i hope it wont flop, which right now is more of the issue than not beeing like cod resulting into that.
Deus Ex combat was not stellar but it's design was clear, you start out unskilled and a quick takedown is near impossible, as you then progress and gain abilities you become a combat machine.
Where as modern shooters have no progression, you are super mega regeneration soldier from the first second and all the thousands of weapons to choose from are actually about the same (making sure noone gets confused), so there is nothing tactical about the combat only aiming skill is required (with consoles not even that).
Which is silly dicking around type fun, but you lose half the game depth of the original right there.
It's one of the best FPSRPGs I've played ever. The story is incredible, the voice acting is really good (regardless of what someone said earlier!), the character of JC Denton is interesting, the RPG elements actually contribute to the game (unlike the vastly popular Mass Effect 2 [I'm not saying it's bad, I love ME2, but yeah, it wasn't as much of an FPSRPG as an FPS with minor RPG elements]), the setting is good, and sure the graphics are dated but who really cares?Wolfram01 said:So, I've never played Deus Ex before. Of course I've heard "good things" about it, but the same can of course be said of several games I don't like, so I don't really think popular opinion matters much lol. Anyway, all I've ever really seen on Deus Ex is actually from the newest iteration, and while it looks good I'm not really convinced. But back to the subject at hand, is Deus Ex a good game, and more importantly, why?