Diablo 3, and it's awful story line.

[Valen_Starwalker]

After reading the thread about ideas for Diablo 3 Expansion pack, and re-reaching all the cut scenes on youtube...

I thought of something..

How the fuck did Tyrael become human? What. That makes no sense to me.

If you read the books, and know the lore of Diablo you would know that humans didn't exist before angels, and demons.

They were birthed by Lilith, and Inarius, and other demons, and angels mating together.
Thus creating the nephalem. The nephalm we're an entirely new breed of creature that also didn't exist before the creation of Sanctuary. Inarius, and Lilith fought over the new creatures.

Lilith wanted to use the nephalm to end the war, while Inarius wanted them to worship him as a God. Inarius banished Lilith into the void while he tweaked the World Stone so it's pulse weakened them after generations. Thus creating what is now as "Humans" in the world of Sanctuary.

Now here's something people get confuse about.. HUAMNS ARE NEPHALM. They are the same being. There is no difference between the two what so ever. It's just that the older nephalm still have their powers, the younger generation doesn't. That's it. Humans = Nephalm. If the world stone was ever destroyed the Humans could become Nephalm again. This is what happened to Uldyssian when Lilith returned from the Void, and changed the World Stone back.

some people think just because they're called "Humans" now they think they're a different species. They're not. I seriously don't know where people got that idea from.

Angels are describe as beings of pure energy, and have no physical bodies of any sort. Although Inarius was able to turn into a human by it was just a disguise made by magic.

When Tyrael ripped off his wings his hood dropped, and the pure energy started to form a figure... WHAT?! How is that even possible?! This is my problem with diablo 3. I hate it when they make stupid story choices like this, and don't fucking explain what happened.
I guess you can look up theories, and crap, but I don't want theories I want an actual fucking lore.

There's spin off saying that Tyrael is just a mortal angel.
What? That's makes no sense either. That's pulled directly out of their asses.


I personally think this was such a stupid story choice.

Does anyone have idea how this could happen?
I really do not get it.
If blizzard said something about at blizzcon, or in a post. They really should have explained it game.

 

[The Lunatic]

To be fair, storylines have never been Blizzard's strongest card.

I know players should expect to get better from a title like D3, but, generally speaking, with Blizzard you pretty much know what you're in store for at this stage.

 

[WoW Killer]

Are you trying to judge Tyrael? That doesn't tend to work out all that well.

It's just a simple plot device to unite all the protagonists as mortals, and thus set up mortalkind as the only hope for the world.

 

[chozo_hybrid]

To be fair, storylines have never been Blizzard's strongest card.

I've found the Starcraft games to be quite good, especially the first and its expansion.

 

[chozo_hybrid]

To be fair, storylines have never been Blizzard's strongest card.

I've found the Starcraft games to be quite good, especially the first and its expansion.

I think blizzard's changed quite a lot since starcraft 1 and brood war.
They're more methodical. Cashing in more and more on their addictive qualities in their games.
They seem to want to deviate as little as possible from that for fear of losing that mega cash flow.
I mean, even their art style is 100% the same in Starcraft 2, World of Warcraft and Diablo 3.
They just don't make good games that stand on their own, they make pandering, commic book graphic, uninnovative, money printing machines.

Oh yes, I concur with most of that cept for the art style bit. But the person I replied to said Blizzard were never all that good with stories and whilst everyone is allowed their opinion, that's kind of a blanket statement. Especially since I know a lot of people who like the story in the Starcraft games.

I'm sorry, but the art style in Starcraft is very different to WoW and Diablo 3. To say 100% the same is a bit much, if you just said similar, then maybe. But their style is fairly different, from the build of the characters, to the colors chosen and the types of lighting they choose to employ. WoW looks like a cartoon and Diablo 3 has a sort cartoonish look to it, but it's got a bit more darkness to it. As for SCII, it's trying to go for a more grounded and realistic (Note that I don't mean going for realistic, just more realistic then the cartoony WoW stuff) look compared to the other two games.

 

[Scarim Coral]

I'm just guessing here, maybe the whole time that Tyrael had involve in Diablo 1 and 2 (I don't know what he did as I never played those game other that he does appear in it) somehow alter him to be a human on the inside.
All I know from Diablo 3 is that he spend ages trying to reform himself back to normal before heading back to Heaven.

 

[black_knight1337]

They seem to want to deviate as little as possible from that for fear of losing that mega cash flow.

Err, no. Go play some Diablo 3, there's quite a bit of change in there.

I mean, even their art style is 100% the same in Starcraft 2, World of Warcraft and Diablo 3.

Again, no. For reasons people have already explained.

OT: Yeah, the story has never been the strong point of the Diablo games. I've got no idea why he became human.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

Nobody plays Diablo for the storyline. They play it to get new colours of pants.

 

[Zhukov]

Not to defend the game or anything (for the record, I agree, the story is dopey as all hell), but I don't think story is the big focus here.

Diablo is all about clicking on monsters and swapping you shitty old +12 socks for some mind-blowing +14 socks.

 

[Eddie the head]

Nobody plays Diablo for the storyline. They play it to get new colours of pants.

This is not the only aimed at you but anyone. The story is more than just the narrative in a game. It's also about Mood atmosphere.

Here form the guy that brought you why Mass Effect 3 has a shitty ending, here is why I don't like D3.


That guy is much smarter then me, you should listen to him.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

Nobody plays Diablo for the storyline. They play it to get new colours of pants.

This is not the only aimed at you but anyone. The story is more than just the narrative in a game. It's also about Mood atmosphere.

Here form the guy that brought you why Mass Effect 3 has a shitty ending, here is why I don't like D3.

That guy is much smarter then me, you should listen to him.

Oh I agree that the story is bloody horrible. But almost no one who is into Diablo cares about it. The storyline is the least important thing in the game to the core players. Should it be that way? Maybe not I mean look at Borderlands 2 (awesome) but we have to admit that this is a game that you play over and over again to get better pants than your friends. It's no Baldur's Gate.

 

[WoW Killer]

The story is more than just the narrative in a game.

What about the storytelling side? Bullshit plots aside for a moment, I don't think I can fault the game for how it puts that plot forward.

Here's me, as a typical Diablo player, not concerned much by the story. Yet at the point I finished that game, I was fully aware of everything that had happened. Now here's the thing: the game doesn't take huge breaks from the gameplay to tell you that story. The cutscenes are very concise. Most of the dialogue happens during the gameplay. With a limited platform to portray a plot to me, and with me not really interested to begin with, I was still able to follow everything. That's pretty good storytelling.

People wouldn't be here picking holes in the plot if it had been told badly. Bad storytelling would have resulted in most people being oblivious to the plot.

 

[Fasckira]

I didn't realise anyone played Diablo for the storyline! Live and learn, I guess!

 

[Plumerou]

for some reason, i always laugh at the fact that the villains in diablo 3 seem more like cartoon characters than anything, they dont shut up about their plans, like Azmodan, he goes to town out of nowhere with his vision thingy "MUAHAHAH YOU WILL NEVER FIND OUT THAT I SEND MINIONS FROM UNDER YOUR FORTRESS", i didnt, thanks for letting me know azmodan.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

for some reason, i always laugh at the fact that the villains in diablo 3 seem more like cartoon characters than anything, they dont shut up about their plans, like Azmodan, he goes to town out of nowhere with his vision thingy "MUAHAHAH YOU WILL NEVER FIND OUT THAT I SEND MINIONS FROM UNDER YOUR FORTRESS", i didnt, thanks for letting me know azmodan.

Me and my friend reckon Azmodan is like Diablo's nephew...I mean he's clearly not gotten his reputation anywhere other than beating the other primes at a game of Risk or something. The guy is completely incompetent.

 

[Valen_Starwalker]

._. Stay on track guys!

I play Diablo for the story, because believe, or not. Diablo lore is very good. The Sin War books, and even the other stuff is also excellent. Diablo's lore is very well design, and it's just this one thing that urks me. Blahh.