Diablo III
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Those are not characteristics of an RPG. Characteristics of an RPG would be relations and interactions between the world and your character, and being immersed in the atmosphere.jezz8me said:
Call of Duty 4 involves an item system and exploration, and most people consider it an FPS rather than an RPG.
If you ask me, I'd say the new graphics are more suited to the game then previous iterations. Diablo in the past always seemed to take itself far more seriously than it really should have. I mean, it's monster bashing. Nothing more, nothing less. Rogue with better graphics. This sort of game doesn't really need to be so bloody gloomy all the time. Diablo always was and always will be about hacking your way through legions of armies to get better loot. It's not the deepest game in the world and it never was.
Don't get me wrong though, I love the series and am really pleased that a sequels been announced. I like the new art scheme, but here's the thing: we've not seen everything yet. We've been shown about 40 minutes of footage, right? The darker atmospheric stuff is likely going to come later. Isn't it better that we have more varied environments instead of "Gloom, Gloom, Gloom" like the previous games? With more varied environments, the creepy settings will be more effective because of the contrast with previous areas.
The fact that fanboys are getting upset about a changed art scheme days after the game they've been waiting for years has been announced is absolutely ridiculous. And I'm sorry if this is a harsh post but seriously guys, it's Diablo.
Don't get me wrong though, I love the series and am really pleased that a sequels been announced. I like the new art scheme, but here's the thing: we've not seen everything yet. We've been shown about 40 minutes of footage, right? The darker atmospheric stuff is likely going to come later. Isn't it better that we have more varied environments instead of "Gloom, Gloom, Gloom" like the previous games? With more varied environments, the creepy settings will be more effective because of the contrast with previous areas.
The fact that fanboys are getting upset about a changed art scheme days after the game they've been waiting for years has been announced is absolutely ridiculous. And I'm sorry if this is a harsh post but seriously guys, it's Diablo.
Thread Necromancy is bad, but I think starting more than one thread about the same thing is bad too. So I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place:
From Diablofans.com:
"Following the announcement of Diablo III at the 2008 Blizzard Worldwide Invitationals, merely 9 days ago, Gamasutra reports that sales of the seven-year-old RPG hack 'n slash game Diablo II Battle Chest has risen considerably on last week's worldwide sale charts.
The Diablo II Battle Chest took the lead on North American PC sales as the #1 in the Top 5 Sales. On the United Kingdom charts, the Diablo II Battle Chest received the th spot.
At this rate, Game Stores around the world will be out of stock of any remaining copies. If your area already is out of stock and you wish to get your hands on Diablo II and Lord of Destruction expansion, your only option at this point is to head to the Blizzard Store to purchase a digital download of the game. It is now available after the Diablo III announcement. Blizzard Entertainment most likely foresaw this prior to the announcement. A clever planning."
www.diablofans.com
http://gameplasma.com/index.php?do=viewarticle&id=758:
"Well it seems that Blizzard hyped Diablo 3 enough. The Diablo II Battlechest is now the number one selling PC game on Amazon. You can find the list here. At the time of posting, it seems that it is also the #16 top-selling game for video games in genereal. This only begs the question of exactly how many copies will Blizzard sell of Diablo III?"
... It begs the question, a ZP retroreview of Diablo II?
EDIT:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=pd_ts_pg_2?ie=UTF8&pg=2
Well, it looks like its #26 as of 9:07pm EST 7/7/08
From Diablofans.com:
"Following the announcement of Diablo III at the 2008 Blizzard Worldwide Invitationals, merely 9 days ago, Gamasutra reports that sales of the seven-year-old RPG hack 'n slash game Diablo II Battle Chest has risen considerably on last week's worldwide sale charts.
The Diablo II Battle Chest took the lead on North American PC sales as the #1 in the Top 5 Sales. On the United Kingdom charts, the Diablo II Battle Chest received the th spot.
At this rate, Game Stores around the world will be out of stock of any remaining copies. If your area already is out of stock and you wish to get your hands on Diablo II and Lord of Destruction expansion, your only option at this point is to head to the Blizzard Store to purchase a digital download of the game. It is now available after the Diablo III announcement. Blizzard Entertainment most likely foresaw this prior to the announcement. A clever planning."
www.diablofans.com
http://gameplasma.com/index.php?do=viewarticle&id=758:
"Well it seems that Blizzard hyped Diablo 3 enough. The Diablo II Battlechest is now the number one selling PC game on Amazon. You can find the list here. At the time of posting, it seems that it is also the #16 top-selling game for video games in genereal. This only begs the question of exactly how many copies will Blizzard sell of Diablo III?"
... It begs the question, a ZP retroreview of Diablo II?
EDIT:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=pd_ts_pg_2?ie=UTF8&pg=2
Well, it looks like its #26 as of 9:07pm EST 7/7/08
Blizzard take as long as they need to make games as GOOD as possible, they take a long time (but 10 years is about 8 years too far in my opinion) to get it balanced and stuff and try to make sure it stays challenging.Kemmler0 said:
Although it does seem like they have too much things to make right now with starcraft2, WoW wrath of the lich king and now diablo III...
diablo games are about a big monster called diablo (duh) that in the first game appears at the bottom of a monastery and starts to attack a town with his army of demons, you go in and slaughter the lot of them and save some people and then kill him...WlknCntrdiction said:
-spoiler now- you take a stone from him that contains his soul and for some reason your guy hammers it into his skull (to gain his power or something dumb like that i think) and then in the second game the guy goes a bit mad and heads east with evil following him and destroying towns on the way then your NEW guy has to try stop him.
But it never stops it from being fun, it never gets too easy (like in the jungle with those fucking annoying kids) and there are lots of spells and attacks you can use.
i think the games and their stories were great.
Oh boy the in-game video with the barbarian and the witchdoctor looks awesome. Can´t wait for that game.
I started playing Diablo 1 on the Playstation, loved it, but never got further than the caves
I only got my own pc two years later, but i bought D1 immediately.
If i compare D1 to D2, the music in the first one was way better and in my opionion a main reason for its success. The overall sound was better, and so was the enemy design.
Most enemies in D2 don´t look like creeping demons from hell anymore, just look at the knights in act 4, or the catwomen. The D1 knights were much cooler. They had the greatest death animation of all time.
Still D2 is better in comparison because of the skill system and the item system with runes, gems and stuff. And you run faster
I started playing Diablo 1 on the Playstation, loved it, but never got further than the caves
I only got my own pc two years later, but i bought D1 immediately.If i compare D1 to D2, the music in the first one was way better and in my opionion a main reason for its success. The overall sound was better, and so was the enemy design.
Most enemies in D2 don´t look like creeping demons from hell anymore, just look at the knights in act 4, or the catwomen. The D1 knights were much cooler. They had the greatest death animation of all time.
Still D2 is better in comparison because of the skill system and the item system with runes, gems and stuff. And you run faster
Diablo on playstation? i didn't know it existed.
My brother installed Diablo 2 again literally a day before the announcement, we had no idea the luck of that.
They are truly great games and i also take back most of the graphic comments like before after re-playing the flayer dungeon >.< that was TOO DARK.
These are some games that will just be loved by me always. I remember i was in love with Diablo 1 from the trailers in WC2 i would watch them over and over. Diablo is one of my most nostalgic games and i hope they don't screw it up.
My brother installed Diablo 2 again literally a day before the announcement, we had no idea the luck of that.
They are truly great games and i also take back most of the graphic comments like before after re-playing the flayer dungeon >.< that was TOO DARK.
These are some games that will just be loved by me always. I remember i was in love with Diablo 1 from the trailers in WC2 i would watch them over and over. Diablo is one of my most nostalgic games and i hope they don't screw it up.
I kind of disagree, Diablo is not immersive, but Diablo does have an interesting and very dark take on classic fantasy trappings that I always find intriguing. My only disapointment is that any cleverness is soon drowned out by mindless hack/slash.babyblues said:
I would rather they take their time and release a polished, complete game then a buggy, half finished game. They can take as long as they like, but I'm puttin my money on 18 months - 2 years territory for the release. I love the diablo series, 1 was above average, 2 was awesome, so 3 should be...i cant even think of a word to descirbe how good it should be. Blizzard don't tend to go backwards.Kemmler0 said:
Why do people read so much into a teaser trailer? sure its a little brighter but that doesnt mean the game itself will be, i dark grungy game would be hard to show of graphically imo, and i think thats what the preveiw was showing.
I for one found the teaser mouthwateringly good, not sure i like the healing orb idea as i t was shown, im hoping they drop less frequently, as much as i hate attending my RPA meetings (Red Pots Annonymous) its a massive part of the game, hopefully pots will stack somewhat (in 10s one would hope) but the choice to risk it for more loot and take less pots to me is an angle on the gameplay that if lost, would ruin the game.
Also no one mentions how slick the animations are!! and to me thats hugely important, more so over the graphics, I play Diablo 2 over Titan quest for this reason (before anyone says anything i love TQ its astounding, but its no D2)
I just hope the game is as insanely difficult as the first game as apposed to the realtive ease one could tear through 2.
Diablo 3 will rule wether you troll it or not, so anyone whos like "this game looks awful..... *insert other ill informed trolling here*" just realise that your words are meaningless, it WILL be bigger than god and sliced bread combined and the only way it wont be is if one of the characters wears a bunny suit weilding a guitar calling himself bob, nuff said
I for one found the teaser mouthwateringly good, not sure i like the healing orb idea as i t was shown, im hoping they drop less frequently, as much as i hate attending my RPA meetings (Red Pots Annonymous) its a massive part of the game, hopefully pots will stack somewhat (in 10s one would hope) but the choice to risk it for more loot and take less pots to me is an angle on the gameplay that if lost, would ruin the game.
Also no one mentions how slick the animations are!! and to me thats hugely important, more so over the graphics, I play Diablo 2 over Titan quest for this reason (before anyone says anything i love TQ its astounding, but its no D2)
I just hope the game is as insanely difficult as the first game as apposed to the realtive ease one could tear through 2.
Diablo 3 will rule wether you troll it or not, so anyone whos like "this game looks awful..... *insert other ill informed trolling here*" just realise that your words are meaningless, it WILL be bigger than god and sliced bread combined and the only way it wont be is if one of the characters wears a bunny suit weilding a guitar calling himself bob, nuff said
It's interesting how you stop on "bump mapping" after mentioning "lots of techniques". And for crying out, bump mapping does not help "give a realistic look to textures"... it's just fake shading from one point of light, a method that is pretty much obsolete nowadays. I'm realtively sure D3 does contain Ambient Occlusion, Specular, and possibly some useage of Normal Mapping (the map that killed bump mapping). Those are 3 big hitters, and you want bump?
For what it's worth though, I 'somewhat' agree with the 'some' of the photoshop alterations. Diablo has always been about dark, sleek and sexy to me. D3 is pushing colour, and while I don't have a problem with that. I wouldn't say no to a mod/patch that did darken it up a bit. I personally think you've gone overboard with your photoshop alterations... and really sucked out the colour in places where just a hint of it would be ideal. I've not signed the petition, but I can see where you're coming from... well, for some bits. What was that "compare Tristram in D1 to D3" about? You didn't provide a comparison image, and the image of D1 is actually quite rubbish! So yeah... not sure what you were supposed to be getting at there.
Hey, it's not mine - or anyone here's - petition. I think it started on the battle.net forums. But be warned, if you go there, prepare for the arrogant flaming of 12-year-olds.
On a different note, I hope you brought your lollerskates:
http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/diablo-hate-internet.php
On a different note, I hope you brought your lollerskates:
http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/diablo-hate-internet.php
I'm really more concerned about Diablo 3 being dark in overall tone rather than it daring to have colors aside from gray and brown in it. The Necromancer being replaced with the Witch Doctor doesn't thrill me, and I fear that the demons won't wind up actually looking demonic.