Dialogue trees: why can't I punch more people?

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Neverhoodian

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One of the many things I like about the Mass Effect games is that they sometimes give you an option to physically threaten or flat-out punch rude/annoying NPCs. It's a nice middle ground between the extreme "let them walk all over you" and "blow their head off" options in similar situations (though you still get Renegade points):
Yes, it's a dumb and immature reaction in most situations. Still though, it would be nice if it was an option more often in these types of games. I'm sure there were plenty of people who wanted to belt that alien-hater Gorton from KOTOR or wallop that son-of-a-***** Colin Moriarty from Fallout 3 without making enemies with everyone else in Megaton.

Who else wants more "I'm gonna punch your stupid face" opportunities in RPGs with branching dialogue options?
 

Confidingtripod

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I personally think it would br fun if you had a punch option AND a hug option in every conversation, the tali loyalty mission when you hug her, why not nock some sense into her and the zaheed punch part, why not break down some emotional walls? I would make the game interesting to have big armoured people punching friends and hugging enemies before the fight starts...
 

ErikTheGreat

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Confidingtripod said:
I personally think it would br fun if you had a punch option AND a hug option in every conversation, the tali loyalty mission when you hug her, why not nock some sense into her and the zaheed punch part, why not break down some emotional walls? I would make the game interesting to have big armoured people punching friends and hugging enemies before the fight starts...
Yup, all games with dialogue options should ALWAYS include a hug and punch option from now on.
 

HapexIndustries

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I agree, being able to punch or kill NPCs during conversation options rules. That's half the reason I love the Fallout games; when Fallout 1 came out it blew my mind with the options I had. And really, if you're willing to take the game breaking implications of punching a major NPC in the face, you should be able to. I hate it hate it HATE IT when my badass character HAS to take shit from an NPC.
 

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Confidingtripod said:
I personally think it would br fun if you had a punch option AND a hug option in every conversation, the tali loyalty mission when you hug her, why not nock some sense into her and the zaheed punch part, why not break down some emotional walls? I would make the game interesting to have big armoured people punching friends and hugging enemies before the fight starts...


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That's a horrible idea, not gonna lie.
 

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lacktheknack said:
Confidingtripod said:
I personally think it would br fun if you had a punch option AND a hug option in every conversation, the tali loyalty mission when you hug her, why not nock some sense into her and the zaheed punch part, why not break down some emotional walls? I would make the game interesting to have big armoured people punching friends and hugging enemies before the fight starts...
That's a horrible idea, not gonna lie.
Well you have a right to your own opinion but if youll allow a small scene:

Garrus: Damn it shepard stop hugging the collectors and shoot something!

Shepard: Collectors are people too!

Legion: The shepard commander's method of incapacitating enemies is proving neither effective or an advisible course of action.

Garrus: -Facepalm-

Collector: Take me with you.


... Damn I dont think I can play ME without laughing anymore
 

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Confidingtripod said:
lacktheknack said:
Confidingtripod said:
I personally think it would br fun if you had a punch option AND a hug option in every conversation, the tali loyalty mission when you hug her, why not nock some sense into her and the zaheed punch part, why not break down some emotional walls? I would make the game interesting to have big armoured people punching friends and hugging enemies before the fight starts...
That's a horrible idea, not gonna lie.
Well you have a right to your own opinion but if youll allow a small scene:

Garrus: Damn it shepard stop hugging the collectors and shoot something!

Shepard: Collectors are people too!

Legion: The shepard commander's method of incapacitating enemies is proving neither effective or an advisible course of action.

Garrus: -Facepalm-

Collector: Take me with you.


... Damn I dont think I can play ME without laughing anymore

... I can't either.

YOU RUINS IT!