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Terminate421 said:
No.

Why do you think the 3DS XL was released?

Also this in about 2 weeks:





As for sony, they're being dumbasses when it comes to what they release right now. No games = no profit.
My god I fucking want those, they made things like Koffing properly viable in game for once :D
Gonna do the whole game with just poison types. I.e. With nothing but a Weezing, Scolipede and a Drapion >_O

OT: No, not really, just few handheld games on the new systems appeal to you yet, give it time and the backlibrary will build, maybe try games you wouldnt usually like. That said I have 3 games for my 3DSXL: Mario 3D Land (souless and bland to be frank), Kingdom Hearts DDD (convuluted but fun enough), and Theatrhythm: Final Fantasy (don't judge me!). Mostly play pokemon on it : D cuz I'm sad that way.
 

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Terminate421 said:
No.

Why do you think the 3DS XL was released?

Also this in about 2 weeks:





As for sony, they're being dumbasses when it comes to what they release right now. No games = no profit.
How well do you think B/W2 will sell? It's a day 1 buy from me, but I know a lot of people didn't like Gen V.
I know people who hate on Gen 5, I personally loved it, really refreshed the series for me by making me use the new pokemon and shaking up the formula a bit. I like a lot of the newbies, I like the new designs mostly, very few pokemon I really dislike, no pointless evolutions.

Gen 5 was the best generation since 2 in my opinion. Though 4 can bost HG/SS which I adore for being a version of HG I can play ona handheld in bed that doesn't have a dead battery ):

One problem I have though, I wanna use Garbodor, because it's funny looking and I like me some weird pokemon, but it's attack stats seem to be the wrong way around for it's movepool. Also a shit ability.

But the rest were mostly good stuff.
 

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SkarKrow said:
Sean Hollyman said:
Terminate421 said:
No.

Why do you think the 3DS XL was released?

Also this in about 2 weeks:





As for sony, they're being dumbasses when it comes to what they release right now. No games = no profit.
How well do you think B/W2 will sell? It's a day 1 buy from me, but I know a lot of people didn't like Gen V.
I know people who hate on Gen 5, I personally loved it, really refreshed the series for me by making me use the new pokemon and shaking up the formula a bit. I like a lot of the newbies, I like the new designs mostly, very few pokemon I really dislike, no pointless evolutions.

Gen 5 was the best generation since 2 in my opinion. Though 4 can bost HG/SS which I adore for being a version of HG I can play ona handheld in bed that doesn't have a dead battery ):

One problem I have though, I wanna use Garbodor, because it's funny looking and I like me some weird pokemon, but it's attack stats seem to be the wrong way around for it's movepool. Also a shit ability.

But the rest were mostly good stuff.
I think G5 was a mixed bag of designs. There were some cool ones like Kyurem, Serperior, Hydreigon and Gigalith, there were some bad ones like Vannilite, Garbodor and Chandelure, and there were some plain WTF ones like Reshiram, Alommola, Frillish, and Klinklang.

I did like Krookodile though, the ONLY other Crocodile Pokemon apart from Feraligatr..
 

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ohnoitsabear said:
Actually, the 3DS is pretty popular. Just because there's nothing on it that interests you doesn't mean it isn't successful.

The PS Vita, on the other hand, is pretty much a failure, but I think that's less to do with handheld gaming dying and more to do with Sony really fucking it up. What Sony really needed to do is make some handheld focused IPs. Instead, they just have variations of games people are already playing on the PS3, which are simply more fun to play on a console.
The Vita is a brilliant piece of hardware without the software to back it up. Not to mention the memory card horseshit sony have been pulling with it. I fear for the future of the industry. Nintendo are a generation behind, Microsoft hardware is made from ice lolly sticks and blu-tack, and Sony just have their head up their arse so far as caring about customers is concerned.

That said, Nintendo has teh pokemons.
 

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kortin said:
People actually 'game' on smartphones? I've always seen it as a "play for a minute then delete the app because all of the games designed on smartphones are shit".

But yeah, REAL handheld gaming is far from dead. Pokemon Black and White 2 are coming out, Kingdom Hearts 3D is AMAZING, and the Nintendo store on the 3DS is large enough. It's still early, rumors have been buzzing around about nintendo making Majora's Mask 3D, and all that.
There are actually good games on handhelds, and they usually fit the handheld market better, in my opinion. Why? Because I want to play my handhelds when on the bus or whatever, and for that I'd prefer a game I can just mess around with for 10-20 minutes rather than Zelda, and preferably on something I'm carrying around anyways. Which is something a lot of people seem to agree with, hence why the handheld console market has slowed down. It's not dead, but it's not where it was before smartphones became popular.

Still, if I want what you somewhat condescendingly call a "real game", I'd rather play on a stationary console or my computer.
 

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Sean Hollyman said:
SkarKrow said:
Sean Hollyman said:
Terminate421 said:
No.

Why do you think the 3DS XL was released?

Also this in about 2 weeks:





As for sony, they're being dumbasses when it comes to what they release right now. No games = no profit.
How well do you think B/W2 will sell? It's a day 1 buy from me, but I know a lot of people didn't like Gen V.
I know people who hate on Gen 5, I personally loved it, really refreshed the series for me by making me use the new pokemon and shaking up the formula a bit. I like a lot of the newbies, I like the new designs mostly, very few pokemon I really dislike, no pointless evolutions.

Gen 5 was the best generation since 2 in my opinion. Though 4 can bost HG/SS which I adore for being a version of HG I can play ona handheld in bed that doesn't have a dead battery ):

One problem I have though, I wanna use Garbodor, because it's funny looking and I like me some weird pokemon, but it's attack stats seem to be the wrong way around for it's movepool. Also a shit ability.

But the rest were mostly good stuff.
I think G5 was a mixed bag of designs. There were some cool ones like Kyurem, Serperior, Hydreigon and Gigalith, there were some bad ones like Vannilite, Garbodor and Chandelure, and there were some plain WTF ones like Reshiram, Alommola, Frillish, and Klinklang.

I did like Krookodile though, the ONLY other Crocodile Pokemon apart from Feraligatr..
Serperior is a bit poor imo, I found the G5 starters kind of dull really. Fire/fight again? How about some new combos next gen? I'd like some new varieties. I'd like a viable offensive poison type too. Gigalith is a great pokemon it just took too long to get a good stab move imo, Vannilite is okay, great for in game purposes. Garbodor is just a mistake, it's stats don't support it's movepoola t all, Chandelure is devastating in the right hands and kinda cool if you ask me, mine can tear through 90% of the battle subway and what it can't kill Milotic can burn and stall.

Reshiram is awesome, as is frillish. Klinklang is unfortunate imo it's movepool is just so bad xD that said it shifts gear then gear grinds. It does that very well indeed, just lacks coverage.

Never used a Krookodile, might do so in BW2. Really wish you could start BW2 in hard mode though I want something harder than BW.

My faves from gen 5 are probably Conkeldurr, Galvantula, Leavanny, Darmanitan (so, much, power...), those kinds. I'm glad of the movepool shakeups and placement of older pokes in BW2 though, like Zubat is now introduced at a point where it's usable and comes with wing attack ready to go. Koffing comes with clear smog and swift access to venoshock, Elekid and Magby both come early and get good fast. Can't wait for them tbh.
 

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Naeras said:
There are actually good games on handhelds, and they usually fit the handheld market better, in my opinion. Why? Because I want to play my handhelds when on the bus or whatever, and for that I'd prefer a game I can just mess around with for 10-20 minutes rather than Zelda, and preferably on something I'm carrying around anyways. Which is something a lot of people seem to agree with, hence why the handheld console market has slowed down. It's not dead, but it's not where it was before smartphones became popular.

Still, if I want what you somewhat condescendingly call a "real game", I'd rather play on a stationary console or my computer.
You'll have to show me these games that you can play on a smartphone for longer than 30 seconds without getting bored as fuck, because they certainly aren't games if they can't even hold attention for extended periods of time.
 

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SkarKrow said:
Sean Hollyman said:
SkarKrow said:
Sean Hollyman said:
Terminate421 said:
No.

Why do you think the 3DS XL was released?

Also this in about 2 weeks:





As for sony, they're being dumbasses when it comes to what they release right now. No games = no profit.
How well do you think B/W2 will sell? It's a day 1 buy from me, but I know a lot of people didn't like Gen V.
I know people who hate on Gen 5, I personally loved it, really refreshed the series for me by making me use the new pokemon and shaking up the formula a bit. I like a lot of the newbies, I like the new designs mostly, very few pokemon I really dislike, no pointless evolutions.

Gen 5 was the best generation since 2 in my opinion. Though 4 can bost HG/SS which I adore for being a version of HG I can play ona handheld in bed that doesn't have a dead battery ):

One problem I have though, I wanna use Garbodor, because it's funny looking and I like me some weird pokemon, but it's attack stats seem to be the wrong way around for it's movepool. Also a shit ability.

But the rest were mostly good stuff.
I think G5 was a mixed bag of designs. There were some cool ones like Kyurem, Serperior, Hydreigon and Gigalith, there were some bad ones like Vannilite, Garbodor and Chandelure, and there were some plain WTF ones like Reshiram, Alommola, Frillish, and Klinklang.

I did like Krookodile though, the ONLY other Crocodile Pokemon apart from Feraligatr..
Serperior is a bit poor imo, I found the G5 starters kind of dull really. Fire/fight again? How about some new combos next gen? I'd like some new varieties. I'd like a viable offensive poison type too. Gigalith is a great pokemon it just took too long to get a good stab move imo, Vannilite is okay, great for in game purposes. Garbodor is just a mistake, it's stats don't support it's movepoola t all, Chandelure is devastating in the right hands and kinda cool if you ask me, mine can tear through 90% of the battle subway and what it can't kill Milotic can burn and stall.

Reshiram is awesome, as is frillish. Klinklang is unfortunate imo it's movepool is just so bad xD that said it shifts gear then gear grinds. It does that very well indeed, just lacks coverage.

Never used a Krookodile, might do so in BW2. Really wish you could start BW2 in hard mode though I want something harder than BW.

My faves from gen 5 are probably Conkeldurr, Galvantula, Leavanny, Darmanitan (so, much, power...), those kinds. I'm glad of the movepool shakeups and placement of older pokes in BW2 though, like Zubat is now introduced at a point where it's usable and comes with wing attack ready to go. Koffing comes with clear smog and swift access to venoshock, Elekid and Magby both come early and get good fast. Can't wait for them tbh.
Out of the ones you mentioned, I only really like Zubat :p

Starts of shitty, but when it evolves into Crobat shit really hits the fan.
 
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The technology in handheld gaming these days is seriously impressive. They just aren't releasing any interesting games. I have a 3DS but the only good games I have for it are remakes. Really disappointing. :/
 

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StBishop said:
Handheld gaming is bigger than ever. It just looks different. All of the cool shit is happening on phones bro.

Come to the other side. We have touch screens.
So do the 3DS and Vita, what's your point?
You know what else the 3DS and Vita have? Buttons, and joysticks, things that you need to play most decent games. And you know what else the 3DS and Vita have? DECENT GAMES.

Phones are good for most things, but true gaming is still out of their reach for now.
 

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kortin said:
You'll have to show me these games that you can play on a smartphone for longer than 30 seconds without getting bored as fuck, because they certainly aren't games if they can't even hold attention for extended periods of time.
The ones I'm playing most nowadays are Zoo Keeper, Catan and Androminion, all of them worth checking out. There's also WordFeud, which I think I can I assume you've heard of and didn't like. My girlfriend also has some Bubble Shooter-clone on her phone, which is also reasonably fun.

Most of them are either puzzlers or adapted board games(Dominion, Settlers, Scrabble), but for a bus trip, they do the job fairly well.
 

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I don't think current handheld gaming is dead, so much as in a slump. Thanks to Sony dropping the ball a bit with both their handhelds, the PS Vita is suffering, and Nintendo aren't really pushing enough with the 3D aspect of the 3DS yet. Still, the hardware is staggeringly powerful, and once developers really start to dig in, I'm certain we'll see some great stuff appearing.

Just be patient, I guess. It took a good while for some of the DS and PSP's best games to appear, and I imagine it'll be the same for the 3DS and PS Vita.
 

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Handhelds didn't die, the market just changed to a less dedicated form.

Smartphones are where most mobile developers are focusing their attention these days and for very good reason.
 

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Sean Hollyman said:
SkarKrow said:
Sean Hollyman said:
SkarKrow said:
Sean Hollyman said:
Terminate421 said:
No.

Why do you think the 3DS XL was released?

Also this in about 2 weeks:





As for sony, they're being dumbasses when it comes to what they release right now. No games = no profit.
How well do you think B/W2 will sell? It's a day 1 buy from me, but I know a lot of people didn't like Gen V.
I know people who hate on Gen 5, I personally loved it, really refreshed the series for me by making me use the new pokemon and shaking up the formula a bit. I like a lot of the newbies, I like the new designs mostly, very few pokemon I really dislike, no pointless evolutions.

Gen 5 was the best generation since 2 in my opinion. Though 4 can bost HG/SS which I adore for being a version of HG I can play ona handheld in bed that doesn't have a dead battery ):

One problem I have though, I wanna use Garbodor, because it's funny looking and I like me some weird pokemon, but it's attack stats seem to be the wrong way around for it's movepool. Also a shit ability.

But the rest were mostly good stuff.
I think G5 was a mixed bag of designs. There were some cool ones like Kyurem, Serperior, Hydreigon and Gigalith, there were some bad ones like Vannilite, Garbodor and Chandelure, and there were some plain WTF ones like Reshiram, Alommola, Frillish, and Klinklang.

I did like Krookodile though, the ONLY other Crocodile Pokemon apart from Feraligatr..
Serperior is a bit poor imo, I found the G5 starters kind of dull really. Fire/fight again? How about some new combos next gen? I'd like some new varieties. I'd like a viable offensive poison type too. Gigalith is a great pokemon it just took too long to get a good stab move imo, Vannilite is okay, great for in game purposes. Garbodor is just a mistake, it's stats don't support it's movepoola t all, Chandelure is devastating in the right hands and kinda cool if you ask me, mine can tear through 90% of the battle subway and what it can't kill Milotic can burn and stall.

Reshiram is awesome, as is frillish. Klinklang is unfortunate imo it's movepool is just so bad xD that said it shifts gear then gear grinds. It does that very well indeed, just lacks coverage.

Never used a Krookodile, might do so in BW2. Really wish you could start BW2 in hard mode though I want something harder than BW.

My faves from gen 5 are probably Conkeldurr, Galvantula, Leavanny, Darmanitan (so, much, power...), those kinds. I'm glad of the movepool shakeups and placement of older pokes in BW2 though, like Zubat is now introduced at a point where it's usable and comes with wing attack ready to go. Koffing comes with clear smog and swift access to venoshock, Elekid and Magby both come early and get good fast. Can't wait for them tbh.
Out of the ones you mentioned, I only really like Zubat :p

Starts of shitty, but when it evolves into Crobat shit really hits the fan.
There are a lot of others too, with changed up sets and such. But I stopped paying much attention around when people were talking bout the second gym and tehe LPer's got there cuz I didn't want many spoilers for it.

Crobat is pretty great. Top tier speed, good defenses, good offenses, good movepool.
 

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munx13 said:
So both Sony and Nintendo have had their handhelds out on the market for around a year now, but I still struggle to find any good games or features on both systems.

All I see are a couple of good exclusive titles, the rest being ports of yearly sports games, overpriced phone games and shovelware with next to no announcements of anything worthwhile.

Am I missing something here or did Sony and Nintendo really gave up on this?
I don't know about Sony, but Nintendo is just fine. Really, I think it is a case that you and maybe a few other people think it may be dead, but that is because the games they release are games that you aren't interested in, but the fact is many other people most likely are.

The 3DS wouldn't be moving on to multiple iteration of the system if the thing was failing.

StBishop said:
Handheld gaming is bigger than ever. It just looks different. All of the cool shit is happening on phones bro.

Come to the other side. We have touch screens.
I've found most phone gaming to be lacking for me compared to what has come out of traditional handheld gaming before phone gaming.

But of course that is my spin of what I told munx13. Just because I don't like what I've seen and played of phone gaming, doesn't mean that it is in reality entirely bad or not going to last much longer. It's just that I personally don't like it.

Just as handheld gaming on the Sony and Nintendo front isn't in reality dead because munx13 doesn't like much of anything that has come out recently.
 

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SkarKrow said:
Sean Hollyman said:
SkarKrow said:
Sean Hollyman said:
SkarKrow said:
Sean Hollyman said:
Terminate421 said:
No.

Why do you think the 3DS XL was released?

Also this in about 2 weeks:





As for sony, they're being dumbasses when it comes to what they release right now. No games = no profit.
How well do you think B/W2 will sell? It's a day 1 buy from me, but I know a lot of people didn't like Gen V.
I know people who hate on Gen 5, I personally loved it, really refreshed the series for me by making me use the new pokemon and shaking up the formula a bit. I like a lot of the newbies, I like the new designs mostly, very few pokemon I really dislike, no pointless evolutions.

Gen 5 was the best generation since 2 in my opinion. Though 4 can bost HG/SS which I adore for being a version of HG I can play ona handheld in bed that doesn't have a dead battery ):

One problem I have though, I wanna use Garbodor, because it's funny looking and I like me some weird pokemon, but it's attack stats seem to be the wrong way around for it's movepool. Also a shit ability.

But the rest were mostly good stuff.
I think G5 was a mixed bag of designs. There were some cool ones like Kyurem, Serperior, Hydreigon and Gigalith, there were some bad ones like Vannilite, Garbodor and Chandelure, and there were some plain WTF ones like Reshiram, Alommola, Frillish, and Klinklang.

I did like Krookodile though, the ONLY other Crocodile Pokemon apart from Feraligatr..
Serperior is a bit poor imo, I found the G5 starters kind of dull really. Fire/fight again? How about some new combos next gen? I'd like some new varieties. I'd like a viable offensive poison type too. Gigalith is a great pokemon it just took too long to get a good stab move imo, Vannilite is okay, great for in game purposes. Garbodor is just a mistake, it's stats don't support it's movepoola t all, Chandelure is devastating in the right hands and kinda cool if you ask me, mine can tear through 90% of the battle subway and what it can't kill Milotic can burn and stall.

Reshiram is awesome, as is frillish. Klinklang is unfortunate imo it's movepool is just so bad xD that said it shifts gear then gear grinds. It does that very well indeed, just lacks coverage.

Never used a Krookodile, might do so in BW2. Really wish you could start BW2 in hard mode though I want something harder than BW.

My faves from gen 5 are probably Conkeldurr, Galvantula, Leavanny, Darmanitan (so, much, power...), those kinds. I'm glad of the movepool shakeups and placement of older pokes in BW2 though, like Zubat is now introduced at a point where it's usable and comes with wing attack ready to go. Koffing comes with clear smog and swift access to venoshock, Elekid and Magby both come early and get good fast. Can't wait for them tbh.
Out of the ones you mentioned, I only really like Zubat :p

Starts of shitty, but when it evolves into Crobat shit really hits the fan.
There are a lot of others too, with changed up sets and such. But I stopped paying much attention around when people were talking bout the second gym and tehe LPer's got there cuz I didn't want many spoilers for it.

Crobat is pretty great. Top tier speed, good defenses, good offenses, good movepool.
Plus if you use a combination of Fly+Toxic, you can avoid damage for one turn.. during which the poison worsens ;D

I've tried my best to avoid all plot details of B/W2 and I've done a good job so far, save a few minor reveals. Not long now.
 

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kortin said:
Naeras said:
There are actually good games on handhelds, and they usually fit the handheld market better, in my opinion. Why? Because I want to play my handhelds when on the bus or whatever, and for that I'd prefer a game I can just mess around with for 10-20 minutes rather than Zelda, and preferably on something I'm carrying around anyways. Which is something a lot of people seem to agree with, hence why the handheld console market has slowed down. It's not dead, but it's not where it was before smartphones became popular.

Still, if I want what you somewhat condescendingly call a "real game", I'd rather play on a stationary console or my computer.
You'll have to show me these games that you can play on a smartphone for longer than 30 seconds without getting bored as fuck, because they certainly aren't games if they can't even hold attention for extended periods of time.
I think you need to learn the difference between something not having good games and you just not liking any of them.

Personally, I play Angry Birds quite often on my phone, as well as Cut the Rope and a variety of word-related puzzle games. I like the fact I can drop out of those games on a whim, instead of making a mad dash to a save point before I need to stop playing.

Granted I only ever play those games for a few minutes at a time, but that's because if I'm in a position where I'm sat still for several hours I'll either read a book or I'm at home in which case I'll play the PS3.
 

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StBishop said:
Handheld gaming is bigger than ever. It just looks different. All of the cool shit is happening on phones bro.

Come to the other side. We have touch screens.
I don't like phones as game consoles. Uses too much battery and you get calls while playing and a touch screen can never replace a d pad and real buttons. In 5 years I'm guessing it will be a lot better though.
You're playing the wrong games. Try fruit ninja, jetpack joyride, triple town, hero academy, checkers, chess, connect 4, and field runners (the sequel, field runners 2, is better). These are all games that work better with touchpad or one button mouse.

Seeing as the touchpad works exactly the same as most laptop mice, (with no right click obviously) there's no downside to playing on the phone.

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Applejack said:
StBishop said:
Handheld gaming is bigger than ever. It just looks different. All of the cool shit is happening on phones bro.

Come to the other side. We have touch screens.
I don't like phones as game consoles. Uses too much battery and you get calls while playing and a touch screen can never replace a d pad and real buttons. In 5 years I'm guessing it will be a lot better though.
Exactly. Why the hell would I want to touch a screen when I could have real controls ?

Maybe for certain types of games it works.
You've answered your own question, virtual buttons kinda suck. The best games are the ones where you either have one action to perform (jetpack joy ride, and fruit ninja) or time to do what you need, (asynchronous gameplay, like hero academy or simply games where you have all the time in the world, like triple town).

I can certainly understand why someone would prefer a dedicated handheld, but I have my phone already, solitaire and hero academy don't chew through my battery that much, I carry a charge cable and laptop anyway, and I find games on traditional handhelds boring.

You see, I don't mind little clicky games (minesweeper, or a game where you just click on dudes who run at you), and I really love my epics (skyrim, mass effect). I get bored with the things which aren't easy to just play and then ignore, but aren't awesome.

I also don't want to carry my DS about because it's too bulky to have in most of my pockets, and carrying around the games is a nightmare.

kortin said:
People actually 'game' on smartphones? I've always seen it as a "play for a minute then delete the app because all of the games designed on smartphones are shit".

But yeah, REAL handheld gaming is far from dead. Pokemon Black and White 2 are coming out, Kingdom Hearts 3D is AMAZING, and the Nintendo store on the 3DS is large enough. It's still early, rumors have been buzzing around about nintendo making Majora's Mask 3D, and all that.
I spend more time playing on my iPhone than I do on my PC and xbox combined at the moment.
I don't always have an hour or 3 to set aside to get engrossed in a big triple A, or a match of HoN. But I've always got time for a 5 min round of asynchronous, tile based, turn based strategy on my phone.

I don't always have time to get into a trainer battle on my DS, but I can pause jetpack joyride on my phone and ignore it for a week and pick up mid flight.

I have more iOS games than DS games and I have gotten more out of Hero Academy (a $2.00 purchase) than I have from all of the pokemon games on DS combined.

There's actually a huge range of great phone games but there's so much (because much of it is indie) that you really do have to sift through.

While I understand the desire to play on dedicated handhelds, there's no reason to imagine/pretend/believe that the alternative is bad. They can both be good.

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StBishop said:
Handheld gaming is bigger than ever. It just looks different. All of the cool shit is happening on phones bro.

Come to the other side. We have touch screens.
So do the 3DS and Vita, what's your point?
You know what else the 3DS and Vita have? Buttons, and joysticks, things that you need to play most decent games. And you know what else the 3DS and Vita have? DECENT GAMES.

Phones are good for most things, but true gaming is still out of their reach for now.
Oh yeah, they do, I was just making a joke.

I agree that for games which require buttons, you need actual buttons, it's as simple as that.

But the state of the industry is pretty dire for creation and innovation and all of the cool shit seems to be happening on iOS and Android.

We're going to have to disagree about the decent games, because I'd say there's less than 5 3DS games I'd want to play, and less than 10 PSvita games I'd want to play.

Gaming is not out of the reach of phones, I'm sorry but you're flat out wrong. Gaming at the level you want, pitched in the way you want - maybe - but gaming is certainly alive and kicking on mobile devices.

Sonic Doctor said:
StBishop said:
Handheld gaming is bigger than ever. It just looks different. All of the cool shit is happening on phones bro.

Come to the other side. We have touch screens.
I've found most phone gaming to be lacking for me compared to what has come out of traditional handheld gaming before phone gaming.

But of course that is my spin of what I told munx13. Just because I don't like what I've seen and played of phone gaming, doesn't mean that it is in reality entirely bad or not going to last much longer. It's just that I personally don't like it.

Just as handheld gaming on the Sony and Nintendo front isn't in reality dead because munx13 doesn't like much of anything that has come out recently.
I 100% agree.
 

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Well, you may not find anything of interest, but my 3DS is occupying a good portion of my gaming time. Plus, I think the latest New Super Mario Bros. game sold a pretty solid amount of copies.

StBishop said:
Handheld gaming is bigger than ever. It just looks different. All of the cool shit is happening on phones bro.

Come to the other side. We have touch screens.
Don't do it. Resist the 99 cents-10 minutes of entertainment products. Resist!
 

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DarthSka said:
Well, you may not find anything of interest, but my 3DS is occupying a good portion of my gaming time. Plus, I think the latest New Super Mario Bros. game sold a pretty solid amount of copies.

StBishop said:
Handheld gaming is bigger than ever. It just looks different. All of the cool shit is happening on phones bro.

Come to the other side. We have touch screens.
Don't do it. Resist the 99 cents-10 minutes of entertainment products. Resist!
But we even have free* games! Muahahahahaaha! *Crack of lightning*

*[footnote][sup]Free games may or may not require purchases to unlock additional content, although some of them don't[/sup][/footnote]