Did L.A. Noire ever get, well..."noir?"

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AyreonMaiden

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I was thinking back to when I tried to play LA Noire and realized that in my short time with it, it never at all felt "noir."

Now, I'm not sure how qualified I am to say that, cause I honestly haven't seen L.A. Confidential or Mulholland Drive or anything, but I HAVE played Max Paynes 1 and 2, Yakuzas 1 through 3 and some of 4 (Some of Akiyama's bit, which is actually hella noir,) read Sin City, seen Batman: The Animated Series and Cowboy Bebop, read a lot of Batman Elseworld and a little bit of canon...

So I'll tell you what my idea of "noir" is:

Exaggerated shadows, strikingly colorful sunsets and twilights, imposing cities full of life and full of stories, femme fatales that'll kill you as soon as they fall in love with you, trenchcoats, gravelly men with gravelly pasts seeking revenge for losses and injustices, dark nights with darker plots lurking beneath them, campy one-liners about how shitty things are, sleazy music along the lines of jazz, blues and rock n' roll (if any...)...

I mean, did I have it wrong when I expected at least some of these things out of LA Noire? Granted, I didn't finish the game. Hell, I didn't even make it halfway due to how unrewarding the gameplay was for me. When I realized the art direction was unremarkable at best and boring at worst, I kept trudging through the cases, hoping for some of the tropes I'd built up in my mind to pop up. But then I realized that LA Noire wasn't the "noir" I'd hoped for, so much as a "1940's detective simulator." I really wanted to see those exaggerations in its style, and it's a shame that they didn't extend farther than the title sequence and the main menu.

Was it just a swing and a miss on my part? Did I have the wrong expectations? Do I even have a clue as to what noir is?
 

Camarilla

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AyreonMaiden said:
Was it just a swing and a miss on my part? Did I have the wrong expectations?
Honestly, yes. What you're thinking of is probably 'neo-noir', the somewhat more overblown and stylised modern interpretation of noir (not that I've seen Cowboy Bebop or Batman, or played any of the Yakuza games, but Sin City typifies neo-noir), whereas LA Noire is inspired by 'true', as it were, film noirs from the 40s and 50s.
 

oliveira8

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L.A. Noire is really missing the noir feel. They created a story for a setting like Chinatown or LA Confidential, but try to pass it off as Double Indemnity or The Maltese Falcon. What happens is that it's somewhere stuck in the classic Film Noir and the Neo Noir style, thus not being anything but a detective story, with pretenses of being a noir story.

The art direction and the feel of Noir is not present in LA Noire. Just watching any of the four movies I mentioned, you will quickly notice that the game looks nothing like any of those.
 

Meggiepants

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Camarilla said:
AyreonMaiden said:
Was it just a swing and a miss on my part? Did I have the wrong expectations?
Honestly, yes. What you're thinking of is probably 'neo-noir', the somewhat more overblown and stylised modern interpretation of noir (not that I've seen Cowboy Bebop or Batman, or played any of the Yakuza games, but Sin City typifies neo-noir), whereas LA Noire is inspired by 'true', as it were, film noirs from the 40s and 50s.
This.

The Noir in LA Noir I would also compare to what they call Hardboiled fiction. It has a lot in common with Hardboiled fiction. The deeply flawed characters that are very tough, the dark story line, the ending that isn't a storybook one. That's just my experience from reading Noir fiction.
 

Zenode

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Noir is such a hard thing to describe, it can have all the elements of noir or only 2 or three and still be "noir".

Remember that Noire literally means "black" in French.
"Film Noir" is a genre of film. (Meaning Black film)
So it's literal name is more "L.A. Black" because it's in the name, whereas if you described the game as "noir" then its part of the genre.

Most Noir films, games or whatever are detective movies...so L.A. Noire can still be a noir game even though it has that one element, it's just the wierd way that genre works.
 

Carnagath

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L.A. Noire's world has all the elements, it's just missing a protagonist. Lawful good doesn't belong in hardboiled fiction.