Did ME3 ruin Mass Effect for you?
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Nah, one bad entry in a series - or, in this case, a tiny piece of one entry - couldn't turn me away from a franchise that awesome. I still trust in Bioware. So many great people seem to work there...
Originally, Mass Effect 3 did ruin the franchise for me.
After the Extended Cut, I'd be fine with playing the games again, as long as I block out the terrible logical fallacies still present.
That said, I've had no real desire to buy or play the ME3 DLC, no matter how interesting the stories may be. Perhaps next year.
Oh, and I'd probably have more incentive to play a future Mass Effect game if I could play as a non-human character. The aliens in that galaxy are really interesting, so it'd be fun to see the world from their perspective(s).
After the Extended Cut, I'd be fine with playing the games again, as long as I block out the terrible logical fallacies still present.
That said, I've had no real desire to buy or play the ME3 DLC, no matter how interesting the stories may be. Perhaps next year.
Oh, and I'd probably have more incentive to play a future Mass Effect game if I could play as a non-human character. The aliens in that galaxy are really interesting, so it'd be fun to see the world from their perspective(s).
The reason I got mad of mass effect 3 is that it gave me no closure on the character and world I had been affecting(pun) through the over 200 hours I put in the game. If they make a game to maybe elaborate that for me I'd be very happy. Even if not I still love the Mass Effect universe so I'd still play it.
Yes. Sort of.Allthingsspectacular said:
While it has forever tainted my faith in the storytellers behind the franchise and no amount of "clarification" will ever make the ending to ME3 good from a narrative, dramatic or thematic standpoints, I will always love Mass Effect. And that's why the ending to ME3 was so bad.
I love the setting. I love the species, the quirks of the people and how they range all across the spectrum without leaving behind what defines them as members of their species. I love the technology balancing the line between the fantastical and the real to not be too over the top nor too dull and boring.
I love the characters. I love how Liara and Tali can maintain femeninity and a sort of approachable vulnerability while still being competent, intelligent and when necessary, independent. I love how Garrus is equal parts funny, awesome and really charming, making me enjoy his company more than you'd ever expect. I love how even Meathead Vega, who I started out hating completley and utterly, had enough moments of real humanity to make him tolerable.
And the ending to Mass Effect 3 was the complete opposite of everything the series had been up until that point. It was just shit.
You know another game that had an awful ending? Homefront. But I didn't care about that game having a bad ending, because I didn't love the setting and characters. I didn't care about Dumbass McAsstard sacrificing himself, I didn't care about Team America winning the day against the Chinese- I mean "Korean" Commienazies.
But I do care about Shepard. So I can't exactly let it go.
Or as dishonestly, which is kind of the problem in the first place. Not to mention the reason I put "if" as a conditional.Capitano Segnaposto said:
*Spoilers*
I wouldn't say the ending ruined it for me, but I was disappointed. First of all, the battle assets didn't matter at all. It's kind of dumb that you can be a complete dick and hardly get any allies, yet the outcome is the same as someone who went through the effort of rallying almost everyone. I was so pumped to see all the allies I collected to kick some Reaper ass, but it never happened.
Secondly, I just found the ending to be pretty underwhelming. Not because it didn't bring closure, but merely because it wasn't very climactic. Here you have Shepard on the verge of death fighting to hold onto his last bit of strength, and then all the excitement just gets brought to halt when he runs into some magical child that pretty much just says "Congratulations, you won, now pick your result." I guess I was expecting Shepard to go out in a blaze of glory. I think they tried too hard and just couldn't resist adding one more plot twist, which ultimately backfired (to me, anyway).
I wouldn't say the ending ruined it for me, but I was disappointed. First of all, the battle assets didn't matter at all. It's kind of dumb that you can be a complete dick and hardly get any allies, yet the outcome is the same as someone who went through the effort of rallying almost everyone. I was so pumped to see all the allies I collected to kick some Reaper ass, but it never happened.
Secondly, I just found the ending to be pretty underwhelming. Not because it didn't bring closure, but merely because it wasn't very climactic. Here you have Shepard on the verge of death fighting to hold onto his last bit of strength, and then all the excitement just gets brought to halt when he runs into some magical child that pretty much just says "Congratulations, you won, now pick your result." I guess I was expecting Shepard to go out in a blaze of glory. I think they tried too hard and just couldn't resist adding one more plot twist, which ultimately backfired (to me, anyway).
first off there's two 'literally's in you sentence and second is that adding a new a character does not take just "one line of code." It takes script rewrites so that the crew actually acknowledges the guy is a Prothean to add depth, as well as needing more voice acting, and then they gave him unique skills, you get a laser gun, plus they needed to make a new level where Shepard finds the Prothean, they needed to give him a room on the ship, plus there's his personality, cutscenes specific to the character, not to mention artwork that is needed to get everything right. That right there is a ton of work for the devolopers.
If you mean that it wasn't on the game when they released it, then it depends how much of that content was already on the disc. Since I'm sort of on a teaching frenzy here, they can't just edit one code on the day before it's released because they have already given the publishers the finished game which needs to be published and checked for issues before the game is actually sold. This takes roughly the same amount of time as making the new DLC so I could say it is reasonable to give players the option to buy it then because somebody needs to get paid for the extra work.
Anyway, think about what you are going to type and check it before you press post plz.
It hasn't ruined it, but it was certainly a disappointment. After seeing the resolution of the Quarian-Geth conflict, they've shown they can write good dramatic scenes. And after the ME2 ending they've shown they can program fun and inventive ways to create multiple endings. So why they went with a poor-man's version of the Deus Ex ending from a good decade ago, while riddeling it with plot holes is beyond me**. I looks like one of Obsidian's rush-job endings.
Still, I had fun for most of the game. I would consider buying a product set in the same universe.
** Spoiler warning: Seriously, they were so afraid that someone might develop a race of machines that would wipe out all life, so they made an unstoppable fleet of killer machines that could evolve depending on what organic race they last absorbed and would run for millions of year unattended, while being forced to go into hibernation for most of that time for no benefit to themselves? If they were so confident that that could never backfire, why were they so sure any other synthetic race would be a threat to all life?
Still, I had fun for most of the game. I would consider buying a product set in the same universe.
** Spoiler warning: Seriously, they were so afraid that someone might develop a race of machines that would wipe out all life, so they made an unstoppable fleet of killer machines that could evolve depending on what organic race they last absorbed and would run for millions of year unattended, while being forced to go into hibernation for most of that time for no benefit to themselves? If they were so confident that that could never backfire, why were they so sure any other synthetic race would be a threat to all life?
Unfortunately, Mass Effect 3 took away all the enjoyment I had in the series. I recently went back in an attempt to replay ME1, but I didn't even get through the introduction sequence before I remembered that no matter what I did, it would all end in a cluster of nonsense, and even the Extended Cut didn't help at all. It's a shame, because I really loved this series beforehand.
Since when did someone have to preface an opinion with "I personally think"? Of course he personally thinks that, otherwise he wouldn't be stating it. No one should take that as him trying to push it as a set-in-stone fact, as you put it. Instead, take it as his opinion, which is clearly what it is, regardless of what he may or may not have prefaced it with.The Heik said:
During the few days after I finished Mass Effect 3 I had recurring nightmares.With that said here are a few things that I did during my time with it:
Even though I enjoyed the third game and was a bit disappointed when StarChild popped up made me go "WTF is this?" I went along with it and didn't stray off my path.Having over 7.800 EMS I destroyed them and this was my canon ending.
When I saw the breath at the end and my LI not putting the placard on the memorial wall,it's when I knew that Shepard story was not over,even if Bioware said differently.
With all said and done,I'm jonesing for more Shepard and Mass Effect 3 story DLC's.
Even though I enjoyed the third game and was a bit disappointed when StarChild popped up made me go "WTF is this?" I went along with it and didn't stray off my path.Having over 7.800 EMS I destroyed them and this was my canon ending.
When I saw the breath at the end and my LI not putting the placard on the memorial wall,it's when I knew that Shepard story was not over,even if Bioware said differently.
With all said and done,I'm jonesing for more Shepard and Mass Effect 3 story DLC's.
I never said he had to use the phrase "I personally think", it was merely an example of a more unambiguous phrasing that he could have used.Haefulz said:
Second, I know it's just his opinion. My point was that the way he wrote his post made it seem like his personal opinion was common knowledge, despite the mountainous piles of information to the contrary. Sometimes how you say something is far more important than what you say.
Judging by the overwhelming amount of people that agree with me in this thread i'm happy to take that as over reaction originally. Your opinion is just as valid as mine so why the big deal?The Heik said:
