It's safer.Tanakh said:I might sound a little bitter, but what is the fundamental difference between this and what the Soviet Union did in 1961?
It's safer.Tanakh said:I might sound a little bitter, but what is the fundamental difference between this and what the Soviet Union did in 1961?
Um...no, it wouldn't be nearly that bad. On the other hand, yes, there is a serious risk of radioactive material being spread around the place, but humanity has done that alot already and survived. There's lots of room between "something that doesn't matter" and "end of everything".bazaalmon said:The problem with Orion is that it might rain nuclear fallout over the entire planet, exterminating all life as we know it.
Um...you know who NASA was trying to beat when they put men on the moon? Or, indeed, who the USSR was trying to beat when it put a man in space?Dawns Gate said:If it wasn't for the stupid cold war and all the world leaders being idiots, I bet we would have a moon base by now.
God damnit, your just like every other pessimist i've known.Tanakh said:I might sound a little bitter, but what is the fundamental difference between this and what the Soviet Union did in 1961?
After a quick check, all i saw was sub orbital and orbital flights for cargo and passengers.
First, no need to insult that guy. He wasn't being confrontational.ironm4id3n said:God damnit, your just like every other pessimist i've known.Tanakh said:I might sound a little bitter, but what is the fundamental difference between this and what the Soviet Union did in 1961?
After a quick check, all i saw was sub orbital and orbital flights for cargo and passengers.
Its like... if some guy ran for 80 hrs straight (WHICH HAS HAPPENED) you would be the one to go and say... "ohhh but he wasn't running that fast"
seriously did you read your post when your put "all i saw was sub orbital and orbital flights"
YEAH! no big deal right?
F****** disgrace
A moon base is no small thing, but I'd grant you it should be possible.Vigormortis said:Frankly, we should already have a moon base. I'm serious. The American moon landing program never should have stopped. Sadly, the combination of budgetary issues, governmental BS, and a general lack of interest on the world stage (i.e. the general public) stymied that endeavor. Had it continued, we would have likely had a research base on the moon by the late eighties or nineties and would already being using it as a launching station for mars missions today.
I just think that the space program budget allocation is and has been quite stupid. Space is cool, but largely useless till we get a space elevator, and after the first moon landing that should have been the main focus of NASA et al; even with the low interest in the protect there are already one or two materials close to being strong enough to do it, imagine if USA had pitched that dream to the public!Vigormortis said:Frankly, we should already have a moon base. I'm serious. The American moon landing program never should have stopped. Sadly, the combination of budgetary issues, governmental BS, and a general lack of interest on the world stage (i.e. the general public) stymied that endeavor. Had it continued, we would have likely had a research base on the moon by the late eighties or nineties and would already being using it as a launching station for mars missions today.
Water for starters.thaluikhain said:Why would it be useful for Mars missions, though?
I'm not saying that it didn't play a big part in the development of the technology. I'm saying that instead of being afraid of being nuked by each other (even though nobody wanted to do it anyway), they could have pooled their knowledge and resources together to create things better than fear..... Like a moon base.thaluikhain said:Um...no, it wouldn't be nearly that bad. On the other hand, yes, there is a serious risk of radioactive material being spread around the place, but humanity has done that alot already and survived. There's lots of room between "something that doesn't matter" and "end of everything".bazaalmon said:The problem with Orion is that it might rain nuclear fallout over the entire planet, exterminating all life as we know it.
Um...you know who NASA was trying to beat when they put men on the moon? Or, indeed, who the USSR was trying to beat when it put a man in space?Dawns Gate said:If it wasn't for the stupid cold war and all the world leaders being idiots, I bet we would have a moon base by now.
Additionally, not spending lots of money on the space programs doesn't mean that all world leaders are idiots, they do have to worry about other things.
You'll also note that many of them have, and still are, spending lots of money of them. The Chinese, for example, though various news services don't like pointing that out.