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Sewer Rat

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Sorry, but someone had to post this, so it might as well be me.
Now, I hate to be cynical, but if commercial space travel actually happens in the short term, sorry to say that more likely than not it will be an incredibly expensive affair, only available to the obscenely rich, and most likely will only just breach our atmosphere.
 

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Technically speaking, aren't we all traveling through space all the time? I mean, last time I checked, the Earth isn't stationary. /Completely Missing The Point.
 

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This is who we're going to see space travel and colonisation realised, not groups like NASA, much as I consider that a shame.

Space travel and colonisation SHOULD be a global effort funded by governments for the good of all mankind.

What it's going to be is corporate sponsorships for tourism and resources. Sad, but it's needed so I won't begrudge them.

Now set up a space station where every new world leader is required to sit and watch the world go around for 24 hours so they can understand their charge is not just their own little part of it.
 

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I'm gonna be "that guy" and make the snarky comment about how the OT coupled games with great graphics along with discovering a new kind of plasma and a kind of particle that may travel faster than light.

OT: This does seem cool. I'm sure wildly expensive but cool nonetheless. If I could ever afford this then I would totally be up for spending the day in space.
 

Dawns Gate

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If it wasn't for the stupid cold war and all the world leaders being idiots, I bet we would have a moon base by now.
 

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bazaalmon said:
The problem with Orion is that it might rain nuclear fallout over the entire planet, exterminating all life as we know it.
Um...no, it wouldn't be nearly that bad. On the other hand, yes, there is a serious risk of radioactive material being spread around the place, but humanity has done that alot already and survived. There's lots of room between "something that doesn't matter" and "end of everything".

Dawns Gate said:
If it wasn't for the stupid cold war and all the world leaders being idiots, I bet we would have a moon base by now.
Um...you know who NASA was trying to beat when they put men on the moon? Or, indeed, who the USSR was trying to beat when it put a man in space?

Additionally, not spending lots of money on the space programs doesn't mean that all world leaders are idiots, they do have to worry about other things.

You'll also note that many of them have, and still are, spending lots of money of them. The Chinese, for example, though various news services don't like pointing that out.
 

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Tanakh said:
I might sound a little bitter, but what is the fundamental difference between this and what the Soviet Union did in 1961?

After a quick check, all i saw was sub orbital and orbital flights for cargo and passengers.
God damnit, your just like every other pessimist i've known.
Its like... if some guy ran for 80 hrs straight (WHICH HAS HAPPENED) you would be the one to go and say... "ohhh but he wasn't running that fast"
seriously did you read your post when your put "all i saw was sub orbital and orbital flights"

YEAH! no big deal right?
F****** disgrace
 

SilentCom

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People have been shipping stuff through space for the last 50 years or so... Unless people start flying around in space ships to other planets like in science fiction, I don't care.
 

Vigormortis

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ironm4id3n said:
Tanakh said:
I might sound a little bitter, but what is the fundamental difference between this and what the Soviet Union did in 1961?

After a quick check, all i saw was sub orbital and orbital flights for cargo and passengers.
God damnit, your just like every other pessimist i've known.
Its like... if some guy ran for 80 hrs straight (WHICH HAS HAPPENED) you would be the one to go and say... "ohhh but he wasn't running that fast"
seriously did you read your post when your put "all i saw was sub orbital and orbital flights"

YEAH! no big deal right?
F****** disgrace
First, no need to insult that guy. He wasn't being confrontational.

Second, he's right. Orbital and sub-orbital flights aren't really a big deal. And this is from someone who is an avid "space" enthusiast.

We, as a civilization, have been performing orbital and sub-orbital flights for decades. At this point, for over half a century. So the idea of a few companies, aiming the services towards the super-rich, planning (key word being "planning") to start orbital and sub-orbital space flights isn't that big a deal. In fact, it's pretty sad it's taken this long.

Frankly, we should already have a moon base. I'm serious. The American moon landing program never should have stopped. Sadly, the combination of budgetary issues, governmental BS, and a general lack of interest on the world stage (i.e. the general public) stymied that endeavor. Had it continued, we would have likely had a research base on the moon by the late eighties or nineties and would already being using it as a launching station for mars missions today.

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I actually find the commercialization of space kind of depressing.

I would much rather have a government sending the best and brightest into space instead of some corporation sending out some jackass who won the "lets go to the andromeda galaxy!" competition.
 

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Vigormortis said:
Frankly, we should already have a moon base. I'm serious. The American moon landing program never should have stopped. Sadly, the combination of budgetary issues, governmental BS, and a general lack of interest on the world stage (i.e. the general public) stymied that endeavor. Had it continued, we would have likely had a research base on the moon by the late eighties or nineties and would already being using it as a launching station for mars missions today.
A moon base is no small thing, but I'd grant you it should be possible.

Why would it be useful for Mars missions, though? Now, a station orbiting the Earth would, IMHO, be a much better intermediate step for that than a moon base, unless you mean some sort of training/acclimitisation thing.
 

emeraldrafael

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Yeah... not ot be a downer, but we've been doing this a few years now. Its just getting more economical to the common man.
 

Tanakh

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Vigormortis said:
Frankly, we should already have a moon base. I'm serious. The American moon landing program never should have stopped. Sadly, the combination of budgetary issues, governmental BS, and a general lack of interest on the world stage (i.e. the general public) stymied that endeavor. Had it continued, we would have likely had a research base on the moon by the late eighties or nineties and would already being using it as a launching station for mars missions today.
I just think that the space program budget allocation is and has been quite stupid. Space is cool, but largely useless till we get a space elevator, and after the first moon landing that should have been the main focus of NASA et al; even with the low interest in the protect there are already one or two materials close to being strong enough to do it, imagine if USA had pitched that dream to the public!

And also yeah, "Did you know space travel is happening?" sounds to me like saying "Do you know there is this awesome thing called the interwebz?", yeah, awesome, but... duh.
 

Dawns Gate

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thaluikhain said:
bazaalmon said:
The problem with Orion is that it might rain nuclear fallout over the entire planet, exterminating all life as we know it.
Um...no, it wouldn't be nearly that bad. On the other hand, yes, there is a serious risk of radioactive material being spread around the place, but humanity has done that alot already and survived. There's lots of room between "something that doesn't matter" and "end of everything".

Dawns Gate said:
If it wasn't for the stupid cold war and all the world leaders being idiots, I bet we would have a moon base by now.
Um...you know who NASA was trying to beat when they put men on the moon? Or, indeed, who the USSR was trying to beat when it put a man in space?

Additionally, not spending lots of money on the space programs doesn't mean that all world leaders are idiots, they do have to worry about other things.

You'll also note that many of them have, and still are, spending lots of money of them. The Chinese, for example, though various news services don't like pointing that out.
I'm not saying that it didn't play a big part in the development of the technology. I'm saying that instead of being afraid of being nuked by each other (even though nobody wanted to do it anyway), they could have pooled their knowledge and resources together to create things better than fear..... Like a moon base.
 

Vicarious Reality

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So what, flying that high costs millions of billions and exposes you to a healthy dose of radiation, unless someone fixed that
 

Racecarlock

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So remember that space port I talked about? It opened yesterday. http://www.virgin.com/richard-branson/blog/historic-day-in-new-mexico

Yeah. Starting flight prices are 200,000 dollars. Which IS cheap for a space flight.