Discrimination (the example being 'anti -ginger')

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Xhumed

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Programmed_For_Damage said:
Xhumed said:
most goths are very chipper, in my experience. I've yet to meet one of these mythical gloomy goths who waunder around with their hands to their brows in a perma-swoon.
I have! Met and hung out with a couple of them. Even in the goth subculture you have offshoots within that; the deathrockers, the rivetheads (of which I am one), etc.
Well, being one, i know that lol. I just haven't met any woe-is-me goths, either in the UK or Australia. Not to say i haven't met any arseholes within the subculture, just not melodramatic ones.
 

Nicksus

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As someone who lives in a town full of hippies, there aren't many chances for me to get assaulted by random strangers. It's only at the skate park where I'd have to worry about that.

On a side note, I saw the ginger episode of South Park, and I thought it was hilarious.
 
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Xhumed said:
Programmed_For_Damage said:
Xhumed said:
most goths are very chipper, in my experience. I've yet to meet one of these mythical gloomy goths who waunder around with their hands to their brows in a perma-swoon.
I have! Met and hung out with a couple of them. Even in the goth subculture you have offshoots within that; the deathrockers, the rivetheads (of which I am one), etc.
Well, being one, i know that lol. I just haven't met any woe-is-me goths, either in the UK or Australia. Not to say i haven't met any arseholes within the subculture, just not melodramatic ones.
Oh they're in Australia, trust me ;-) Good people though, for the most part.
 

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mark_n_b said:
Ginger hair? dye it or put up with it. These are 15 year olds, teenagers are dicks, it's part of being a teenager.
I'm just curious, would you say this to a black person as well? Or a person with any other kind of heritage that they're being discriminated for?

It's basically the same thing. You shouldn't need to hide how you were born. Do something about it instead. Report it to the police every single time it happens, sure, the police are going to be pissed at first but if enough people do it, and it happens enough times they're going to realise that it's a serious issue that needs to be dealt with. Talk to your teachers in school, or the annoying parties parents.
 

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Silvertounge said:
mark_n_b said:
Ginger hair? dye it or put up with it. These are 15 year olds, teenagers are dicks, it's part of being a teenager.
I'm just curious, would you say this to a black person as well? Or a person with any other kind of heritage that they're being discriminated for?

It's basically the same thing. You shouldn't need to hide how you were born. Do something about it instead. Report it to the police every single time it happens, sure, the police are going to be pissed at first but if enough people do it, and it happens enough times they're going to realise that it's a serious issue that needs to be dealt with. Talk to your teachers in school, or the annoying parties parents.
I don't think I need to say this, but there's the flaw that reporting every instance like this will result in a lack of respect and being labeled a "pussy" for the rest of your teenage life. Even if they realize you'll report them to the police if they do anything serious enough, they'll still mess with you just enough to make sure it's not too serious. Besides, most of these things are small, and really reporting them to the police only gives them an excuse to act more like they are tough crap. I say just take it, unless it is something really big, like a shooting.
 

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But if you just take it it will never change. It is a form of racism (discrimination based on inherited traits) and should be stopped.
 

Nicksus

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You shouldn't take it, but running to the teachers isn't going to fix everything. It might land you in more hot water. But no method applies to ever situation; some people have different attitudes or you might catch them in different moods that require different approaches. Sometimes just showing a bit of strength will make them back off, or maybe not letting them gt a rise out of you. But I wouldn't mess with a random stranger, other than telling him to poitely fuck off. I'd probably never see him again, anyways.

But if you're a complete and total badass, like one of the two great uncles with a movie about a kid who goes to live with them because his mom is a hoe, and he ends up helping them spend all of their money while also learning about their adventures out East. He's the kind of guy who could kick the crap out of anyone that messed with him, and then lecture them.
 

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Red-headed women... rowr. Love red hair, tis gorgeous.

[As to red headed guys - I live and work in a small country town which is quite homogenous (in terms of race and creed I guess), and the red heads tend to get a relatively good time of it. Along with everyone else really. Guess we're just lucky.]
 

Korolev

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I have never, and never will, understand why there is discrimination against people with Red Hair. I heard that in the UK, a family was forced to move due to the sheer abuse their children received for having red hair. As in, their children were beaten to a pulp, their house was repeatedly vandalized, etc.

It makes no sense. Red hair is red hair. It's HAIR. It's dead protein extruded from the skull.

A type of discrimination I notice every day is the discrimination against short people. I am only 170cm. That's about 5ft.7 in the US. Some would consider that normal height, but here in Australia, it's considered shorter than average (Australians are getting really tall, it's pretty scary). The shorter you are, the less seriously you are taken. It's a fact. I haven't run into many problems because of it, but it's the truth. I notice that Finnish(ed)has also pointed this out.
 

Hamster at Dawn

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What can you do, eh?
In my experience, people will pick on you a lot less as you get older but there's always some douche bag out there who thinks he's better than you. You just have to learn to ignore them and that's all you can really do.
 

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Korolev said:
I have never, and never will, understand why there is discrimination against people with Red Hair. I heard that in the UK, a family was forced to move due to the sheer abuse their children received for having red hair. As in, their children were beaten to a pulp, their house was repeatedly vandalized, etc.

It makes no sense. Red hair is red hair. It's HAIR. It's dead protein extruded from the skull.

A type of discrimination I notice every day is the discrimination against short people. I am only 170cm. That's about 5ft.7 in the US. Some would consider that normal height, but here in Australia, it's considered shorter than average (Australians are getting really tall, it's pretty scary). The shorter you are, the less seriously you are taken. It's a fact. I haven't run into many problems because of it, but it's the truth. I notice that Finnish(ed)has also pointed this out.
In the US if you are a guy that is also considered short. If you are a girl that's a decent height anywhere you go.
 

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I am a computer nerd. (sitting at home everyday, except when im going nightgibbing, being forced out of the house or when the internet is down.)
At school im the kid that's smart and no one picks fights with, because I can always talk people to their sense's and make them think that their own actions are stupid.
I dress like a hobo and smell's like one, but since I can make people look extremely ridicioulus by just talking to them no'one is messing with me, so my tip is:
Talk in extremly long sentences and put their actions in perspective and make them realize how stupid they are.


Or you could just kick them in the balls. (Works either way.)
 

Jonathan Hexley

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I get picked out a lot in crowds by enormous chavs saying "Look at that weird kid!" and "Cut your hair mate!"
A lot of the time, I just think "Piss off you wanker, at least I HAVE hair." because most of those kids who tell me to cut my hair, have horrible hair styles. I don't like to give in, because I like my hair as it is. A bush.
It comes quickly, but at some point in your life, you realise that if people in public aren't friendly to you, or not bothered about you, they're usually wankers who find it fun to take the piss out of people.
Either ignore it, or as previously mentioned, brass knuckles ARE quite fashionable this time of year. Plus the "Hands-covered-in-the-blood-of-wankers" look is also very trendy. Keep up with the times.
 

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Baelinicus said:
But seriously. Does anybody have any advice on how cut down on all this crap?
you need to fight back. that being said, fighting isn't about winning. it's about making people pay a price for messing with you.

for example, if me and a huge guy get into a fight... even if all i do is cut his eye while he sends me to the hospital. he now knows that a cut face is what it costs him to mess with me. this is enough for people to back off.

so take a jiu jitsu class (easiest to learn in the shortest amount of time).

PS: i know some people might think this response a bit brutish. but there are a lot of people out there that use physicality as a means to impose their ideas upon you and to shut you down. i know, that personally, i never truly became a free person who could openly express myself until i lost the fear of being attacked by people.
 

Nicksus

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Want to know what would be good for self-defense? Use basic professional wrestling moves! A lot -- if not most -- of it is based off of forms of martial arts, anyways. Need an instructional video? Buy Smackdown Vs. Raw: 2008 for PS2/3, Xbox 360, or the Wii, go to "Create a Move-Set" with a technical superstar, and look through the Quick Grapple moves. Most of the moves follow the same idea: take down your opponent in a fast, efficient way. A lot of the moves don't even try to hide that they were taken from martial arts, since some are named, for example, "Judo arm wringer takedown". (or something like that)

I am not even joking with how handy that video game has become for me. I primarily learn the moves for training towards actual professional wrestling, but a lot of the quick grapples really have come in handy in fights. I even took down my brother, who weighs one-hundred pounds more than me. But don't even bother learning most of the strong grapples, as for one they get exaggerated in the game (a lot of them are too dangerous in the real world or at least need to be done with more precaution than they show in the game), and you could honestly kill people with a lot of them -- that is, if you could hit them. You'd either have to be really strong to overpower them that much, or catch them off guard.

They also have strikes (as in punches/kicks and what not) from martial arts in the games, and a few are also efficient enough to actually use in self-defense. Games only like twenty bucks by now; it'd seriously be worth checking out.
 

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Or instead of Nicksus way you could do it the fun way. Buy anatomy books, a lot of them. Find nerve groups, or places where the veins are close to the skin. After you take down someone twice your size with one finger and have them almost crying for mercy, then no one is going to mess with you anymore. It does take some practice, so find a friend to practice on for a while.
 

Danny Ocean

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When I was 13 I was picked on for being small by this one guy, so I just flipped and beat the crap out of him. Havn't been in a fight since. Although this was after years of build up.
 

Nicksus

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Silver, people exaggerate nerve holds so much. Not many people could just go out, buy an anatomy book, and become a badass after some practice. Otherwise it'd be something taught to police forces more often, and it'd probably be taught in self defense classes more. Most people who even try to learn nerve groups only get as far as finding and attacking the most obvious ones, which only slowly wears down someone. Like that lump above the clavicle, and grabbing the edge between your armpits and boobs/pecs. Though both of those holds also tickle a lot.

Kids these days are so obnoxious with nerve holds. "Ooh, I am so awesome, I realized pushing down on that grouping of veins on your wrist hurts after a while." Those are the people who do other "tricks," like slapping your arm with four fingers (not the thumb) while they are outstretched all the way; giving an indian burn; and even punching hard. Most people don't go around doing that crap for some reason, but those that do start thinking they are the only ones who can, supported by the fact people become wary of them for having no self-control.

Bleh, too ranty x_x
 

smallharmlesskitten

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This just reminds me of this ad i saw a while ago.
for Frank ginger beer.

Frank, Refreshingly Ginger

Anyway back on topic. Ginger girls are hot but they have to be the right kind of ginger girl. (Curls[proper ones], average or above looks, average-skinny build= drool)

People will find a way to discriminate against everything. It's human nature and most people who do it are just trying to hide their inner flaws.
 

TheKnifeJuggler

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Here's what you do...

Become really successful by starting your own business that is getting a fair share of the market.

Then you can fire the ass off of people who make/made snide comments about your hair color.