Dislikeable qualities about the characters you like?

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TheDrHuw

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Dante from Devil May Cry, he is badass but (especially in 3) he can be a real cocky bastard.
 

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NimbleJack3 said:
puppydogvaan said:
My other favorite hero, Hiroaki Protagonist from Snow Crash, has no flaws.
Holy crap. I'm reading that book AT THIS VERY MOMENT. I thought it was little known. It makes pizza delivery sound like life-or-death.
And skateboard mail delivery.
But no, it's not all that unknown, at least among sci-fi readers. Ask such people to list cyberpunk novels off the top of their head and it'd be second, after Neuromancer.

Vrex360 said:
Like for instance one example is Rorschach from Watchmen. He has firm ethics and is frankly very awesome in his monolouges but his extreme right wing attitude is one of the things I find distasteful about him... killing people is fine and so is being a sociopath just try to be more left wing about it.
Also once again Ashley Williams from Mass Effect, I was charmed by her wit and chemistry with Shepard combined with her emotional weakness. But she had clealry been raised by her racist family and was having trouble changing her values (even though it's clear throughout the game that she is trying).
First, I have to ask whether you're joking about the "be more left wing" thing. You actually don't mind murderers and sociopaths so long as they're more liberal about it?
These are my absolute favourite types of characters in all fictiondom. Ashley Williams, Rorschach, Walt Kowalski (Gran Torino). Intolerant bastards who are still human and still have a hard moral core to them. Perhaps if Hollywood/novelists/comic writers/games writers were more willing to write such characters I wouldn't love them so much - their relative rarity being part of their beauty - but as political thought is among the intelligentsia, they're rare and I love them. Apparently it's alright to portray murderers and other violent criminals as human (no particular example comes to mind but I'm certain there are many) but racists? Inhuman bastards, the whole lot of 'em. There's something truly messed up in that line of thinking - that to dislike/hate people in the abstract (but not necessarily do anything about it) is beyond contempt but murder is forgivable.
Anyway, I'll stop there.
But in all honesty, Rorschach (and Walt Kowalski) was who I was gonna talk about. The fact that a comic book could conceivably allow readers to sympathise with a far-right nutjob like Rorschach says something about Alan Moore as a thinker and a writer (and a person). Rorschach gradually becomes more and more morally repugnant until you get him. He simply sees the worst side of humanity and refuses to give in to it. And in his final choice to oppose *SPOILER* Ozymandias' scheme, even unto death, *END SPOILER* you see that he is morally stronger than any of the rest of them. His morals might not be right in the reader's view, but they were his from beginning to end.
Walt Kowalski is basically the same so I won't repeat myself, though he softens in the movie, becomes more acceptable to our sensibilities and still follows his moral code all the way through the movie.
 

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Uncle Ernie from Tommy, I love the song Fiddle About but I hate how he ended up becoming the owner of "Tommy's Holiday Camp" because he uses it for profit.
 

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I like carnage but hate how he gets all whiny when his suit gets burnt away. Also he was beaten by a pretty gay love beam.
 

Erana

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Squall and the ridiculous weapon. At least it looks cool.
Also, Kratos and the whole, "Mass murderer" thing.
 

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Solid Snake will always be my favorite video game character. He's hardcore yet philosophical. My only problem with him is that he gets cocky at times. Though he has the right to be. He is that badass. New Raiden is, of course, cool. I hated the original Raiden because he lets his personal life get in the way of his task... I mean, how appropriate is it to argue with your girlfriend when you are in a life or death situation. The new Raiden is awesome with his combat skills and, of course, his cyborg ninja gear. Though he doesn't redeem himself with his constant bitching! If only he kept his mouth shut it would've been alright...
 

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TheDrHuw said:
Dante from Devil May Cry, he is badass but (especially in 3) he can be a real cocky bastard.
I didn't really like his cheesey ass one liners in that one. I know that's kind of his thing. But I felt that they were just trying too hard to be like the original, since II wasn't exactly the cats pajamas for the masses.
 

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Gordon Freeman, while being an amazing character, strikes me a lot as a Marty Stu (does everything, everything revolves around him, ect, ect), which is only forgiven by the fact that he is mute in the series and thus we never get to hear him potentially wangst about his life, nor brag about it. Come to think of it, making Freeman mute might have been what makes him so awesome.
 

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I personally always found it extremely bizarre that I liked The Comedian so much. I mean I sort of understand it...his cynical and morbid sense of humor and views on the world strike stunningly close to my own, he's a badass (naturally) and I always get a kick out of how Moore implies that he killed Woodward and Bernstein before they got the story out and how he was the man on the grassy knoll (something the movie doesn't even bother tiptoeing around but whatever).

And yet at the same time, rape is one of the most heinous crimes in my mind and I often can't understand a world where rapists are remotely tolerated. As in, I'm all in favor of murdering them.

So I have absolutely no idea how those two worked out.