I don't freaking know...I already said I don't know what's going on. This whole situation just reminds me that my favorite game series has been reduced to nothing but bitterness and hatred whenever you try and talk about the games. I'll just stick to my fanfiction.one squirrel said:
Dissing Mass Effect Andromeda because it has diversity and equality
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Something that BioWare did was enough for the internet to throw a shitfit again?
I mean geez I thought Andromeda was a great chance for me to harp on people that still defend Dragon Age: Inquisition for finally getting it even more abruptly than last time but this has steered off in to the usual stupid crap. I can even see the comment wars in a day or two continuing the current trend of:
"You're a racist" "You're sexist" "SJWs" "Alt-Right", etc. etc.
I mean geez I thought Andromeda was a great chance for me to harp on people that still defend Dragon Age: Inquisition for finally getting it even more abruptly than last time but this has steered off in to the usual stupid crap. I can even see the comment wars in a day or two continuing the current trend of:
"You're a racist" "You're sexist" "SJWs" "Alt-Right", etc. etc.
i think you are blowing this way out of proportion, infant the whole media did because i see the cabal of usual suspects crying gamergate but i have heard of this controversy long before it blew up so i think i could piece my way though it.Nature Guardian said:
A while ago i say something claiming the head animator was an unskilled cosplayer that some how was given the job and way before that i've had comments from people in the industry speaking about how bioware had become insufferable and incestuous. A game studio were the emperor wears the best pants.
But that's not enough to really produce a game, hell if I'm not mistaken they had a smaller budget then witcher and were expected to do more with it. the game was poorly marketed, so much so i didn't even know when it was coming out this year compared to ME3 that's a miles difference.
All together it seems to be the death throes of 3rd rate incompetents and a dying company.
which is why I'm mildly interested into how much the shock there is a focus on some rando on the youtubes and you have the usual suspects screaming GAMERGATE, CYBER BULLIES.
It's bollocks
Either way she is clearly shit at her job
I will mock who ever I will damn well feel like and there isn't a thing you can do about it.
And i think that goes for everyone else.
Don't whine to me and say people are pointing to a motion capture they based on another person, that looks wholly different from that persons looks and say it's about super sexiness.
with the asari, her features are weird and remind me of a middle aged women(some people say shrek but i don't see it). holding aside the fact that asari don't look like or age like humans I'd say it's another example of the animation department/modeling's failures.
I'd still be interested.The Raw Shark said:
The game has left me sour since I picked it up. Being unable to read the memory that is on the damn console and having to go to a central server is beyond stupid.
I was absolutely bloody livid
You know man, when you post "evidence" about something that even r/kotakuinaction largely thinks is bullshit, then I dunno.RiseOfTheWhiteWolf said:
I mean, and? She got hired, she lead a team on facial animations...and all of that work got signed off on on at least two/levels. It's not like she didn't have anybody checking her work, it's not like she had no experience in animation.
I mean, Christ, she doesn't even work there anymore. She was a low level team leader that wasn't part of the development team that got cut after the game went gold. Just like dozens of other freelancers or interns. And she rates an attack article on the internet because she's a womz, and something she worked on is wonky as shit, ignoring that bioware's always been wonky as shit in this area.
Personally I'd rather not have the animation glitches drag me out of the game.ObsidianJones said:
but i haven't bought the game.
So fuck it.
Anyway if people like being attracted to people they are going to converse with all game then well that's their prerogative.
bioware games have always been about team mates and character driven stories, the gameplay, the main story itself are usually lacking in comparison as far as i've seen.
It is a BioWare game. People want to fuck everything in it.ObsidianJones said:
The late BioWare forums had so many romance threads it broke the forum engine.
Because.ObsidianJones said:
And...yes?
Did you miss the tizzy media and fans flew into at a developer mentioning that sex scenes amount to what is essentially a softcore space porn? People get attached to these characters and, believe it or not, physical attraction is part of it.
But, then, there are girls/dudes who want to get the friction on with Garrus and the Krogan tag-team.
Still, strangely, I think there's a definite physical component there too.
Ahh, yes. It "seemed relevant" although it's filled with lies, hyperbole, and libel and you didn't run any commentary about it at all.RiseOfTheWhiteWolf said:
A good post.
I dunno. The animations are surely wonky and the gifs about it are hilarious.
My problem is actually how even a shitty videogame animation is now turning into a SJW/alt-right/feminazi/whiteknight internet war.
What does that even have to do with anything? So if the asari girl had huge boobs and a more perfect face, her animations suddenly wouldn't have been poorly made? So if all the npcs were white males, suddenly all the animations issues would have disappeared?
Yeah, sure you can do that, and I could do that too. But that's how you degenerate from civilized human beings to screaming apes throwing shit at each other.
It's what a lot of people - most people, sometimes including me - forget.
Then again, we ARE apes.
My problem is actually how even a shitty videogame animation is now turning into a SJW/alt-right/feminazi/whiteknight internet war.
What does that even have to do with anything? So if the asari girl had huge boobs and a more perfect face, her animations suddenly wouldn't have been poorly made? So if all the npcs were white males, suddenly all the animations issues would have disappeared?
cleric of the order said:
Yeah, sure you can do that, and I could do that too. But that's how you degenerate from civilized human beings to screaming apes throwing shit at each other.
It's what a lot of people - most people, sometimes including me - forget.
Then again, we ARE apes.
What is strange with Garrus ? He is not that far more off human appereance than those Asari and seems to have an agreeable character. There were several romance options in the games that i found far less enticing.LostGryphon said:
Anyway it is not only about the ugliness of the crew members. It is probably also about the ugliness of the main character. The female version in all those videos looks really off. Like making very strange grimaces all the time. That is totally not what i would want to have my self-insert look like. And considering that the default option usually looks better than custom options because they can test all the animations with it...
Not really interested in all this SJW discussion. WE pretty much only have second hand information what was going on in the development team anyway. Heir seems lik a racist idiot. But i was never in favor of firing peple for opinions, even deprorable opinions. They should have forbidden him from talking to potential customers though.
And if the really took pain to hire developers who are not white males in an industry where most developers are white male that was kind of stupid and it might very well be that quality suffered for it. But so far i have not seen evidence that was the case
Well, as someone who refused to learn from DA2, and bought ME3, and then DA:I (On sale! Baby steps...) And did not buy ME:A, my impression is that the talent left EAWare long ago, and whatever is left of the company is using diversity pandering as a shield to brand any criticisms as racist/sexist/*ist..
My only​ surprise is that people who felt the same still went out and bought the efing game, when all signs pointed to EAWare being a shell of it's former self.
My only​ surprise is that people who felt the same still went out and bought the efing game, when all signs pointed to EAWare being a shell of it's former self.
Finding a scapegoat to blame everything on isn't a difficult thing to do. MEA will do it, like ghostbusters did it, like george lucas did it; but he was slightly ahead of his time.
Also, I reported evilthecat for making a disparaging accusation towards cultural/ethnic groups and or religious organizations by comparing them to a American born and raised, hero* and white supremacist who shot up a buncha wrong looking people in a wrong kind of church.Since, you know, he is creating a narrative where bad things should be contributed to external groups ie. teutons, who were persecuted during the nazi regime on religious grounds
* - Because everyone who serves the US armed forces deserves to be considered a hero.
Also, I reported evilthecat for making a disparaging accusation towards cultural/ethnic groups and or religious organizations by comparing them to a American born and raised, hero* and white supremacist who shot up a buncha wrong looking people in a wrong kind of church.Since, you know, he is creating a narrative where bad things should be contributed to external groups ie. teutons, who were persecuted during the nazi regime on religious grounds
* - Because everyone who serves the US armed forces deserves to be considered a hero.