DLC abuse

[Theo Rob]

A while ago my friends and I got to talking about DLC. my friends said that DLC would be the next step in in gaming since it allows new content without the need of a expansion disc and while I agreed with this I said that this could be used as a excuse to charge us more for things that are already finished.

The street fighter x tekken hacking has got me worried that what I said wasn't a load of bull and companies are really thinking this way. The future is bleak if other games meet the same fate all because where charged extra for content that's already there so now well all be suspicious of DLC.

disscusion:
1.Is companies abusing DLC for personal gain?
2.do you believe that DLC is one of the best things in resent gaming ?

I Should also say that I don't hate the idea of DLC I just hate what's being done to it

 

[Theo Rob]

whoops whong place

 

[Fieldy409_v1legacy]

Its interesting. It occured to me just today that they actually intentionally left a small gap in the story of Deus Ex revolution purely for dlc.

When adam hides in this cargo hold on a boat. He lost contact with the guy on the radio he talks to for a long amount of time, I think a week. The guy on the radio asks him when Adam gets radio contact with him again what happened and Adam replies "Ill tell you later"

Then they release DLC about what happened while Adam Was in transit.

So....Intentionally leaving a hole in the story for dlc? I dunno, It doesnt upset me that much, just makes me uneasy....

 

[Dandark]

I used to like DLC. Now I hate it and think it's one of the worst things to happen to gaming. Companies are determined to abuse the hell out of it and people are more than happy to support them. Oblivion: "Shivering isles", Fallout: "Operation anchorage" and "Broken steel", GTAIV: "Lost and damned" and "Ballad of gay Tony".

These were great examples of DLC, I loved these pieces of DLC, they added plenty to the game after it had been released, they were also well worth the price. Most of the DLC now seems to just be content that was cut out or should have been in the game originally.
DRM and DLC abuse are two of the most **** companies do. This is why I hate EA and Ubisoft, because they do **** like this.

 

[krazykidd]

Personally , i don't buy DLC, ever . Never have , never will , no matter what . I didn't like dlc when it first started , i still don't like dlc . I am old fashionned like that . When i buy a game , i play whats on the disc, then move on to the next game . That being said , i have no problem with peoe willing to shell out more money for their favorite games . But i have too many games to play and too little time to play it. Hell out of PRINCIPLE , i don't even enter the codes when they include it in games i buy new .

 

[lapan]

The advantage AND the problem of DLC is the ease with which it can be produced and published. One one side it makes it easy to get addons to games with minimum effort. On the other side it get's abused for tons of minimal dlc.

Now companies even started trying to offer endings to games as DLC. The simple solution? Only buy those you deem worth your money, give them a clear answer with your wallet what kind of DLC won't be tolerated.

 

[Vegosiux]

Its interesting. It occured to me just today that they actually intentionally left a small gap in the story of Deus Ex revolution purely for dlc.

When adam hides in this cargo hold on a boat. He lost contact with the guy on the radio he talks to for a long amount of time, I think a week. The guy on the radio asks him when Adam gets radio contact with him again what happened and Adam replies "Ill tell you later"

Then they release DLC about what happened while Adam Was in transit.

So....Intentionally leaving a hole in the story for dlc? I dunno, It doesnt upset me that much, just makes me uneasy....

Well, it wasn't "left for the DLC", as much as it was "game rushed because of executive meddling", the way I understood it. It would have made more sense to just have it in, but...yeah, executive meddling.

On topic tho; I prefer full expansions for more story related stuff, DLC should be purely cosmetic.

 

[Yuno Gasai]

Now companies even started trying to offer endings to games as DLC. The simple solution? Only buy those you deem worth your money, give them a clear answer with your wallet what kind of DLC won't be tolerated.

You've said it better than I could.

I tend to be cynical about the DLC which are intended as game endings, or additional content.. I think the only additional content I actually liked was Oblivion's "Shivering Isles" DLC. I thought that was amazing. <3

Nowadays, I only seem to end up buying cosmetic DLC. Costumes and stuff like that. I have no idea why. ><

 

[Vanitas likes Bubbles]

Personally , i don't buy DLC, ever . Never have , never will , no matter what . I didn't like dlc when it first started , i still don't like dlc . I am old fashionned like that . When i buy a game , i play whats on the disc, then move on to the next game . That being said , i have no problem with peoe willing to shell out more money for their favorite games . But i have too many games to play and too little time to play it. Hell out of PRINCIPLE , i don't even enter the codes when they include it in games i buy new .

I've also never used DLC's mainly thats because of my internet connection, but also I dont like companies exploiting me for coin.

Buuuuuuuut....... expansion packs filled with tonnes of new content on the other hand..............

 

[Merrick_HLC]

DLC is a double edged sword at best.

The thing is it can (& sometimes is) used to just add new 'chapters' or a few nice extras that are all purely optional but worth playing or using.
That is wonderful and can add more value to a good game.

On the other hand, what seems to be more often is basically making a game where you need to buy DLC. Or at least stuff that for no real logical reason was left out of the game is released instead as DLC.

I'm going to sound like an old man out of touch with the times but.... in some ways I kind of miss the old pre-internet connected gaming when they kind of had to put together a complete game with no need for DLC and absolutely having to have a good single-player experience.

 

[Smooth Operator]

DLC has great potential, in the positive and negative sense.
Sadly when it comes to business you can expect any dirty trick that can be used to be used, so the majority of DLC right now is overpriced garbage or simply part of the game they witheld.
And because these packages are so small and floded noone reviews them so unlike expansion packs you get no concrete info on what you might get for your money.

I got some old school mates in dev teams and their consensus is: "don't fucking buy it because it's not our idea, management pushes these asshole moves and if you keep paying for it then it will never stop".

 

[MercurySteam]

There's been some really good DLC such as Minerva's Den for Bioshock 2, and all the ME2 DLC (bar Arrival) so its not a total waste of money, but the number of map packs pumped out is almost criminal. Double edged sword indeed.

 

[Weaver]

I just want to go back to the expansion pack model. My brain is still in the whole expansion pack system to be honest.

If you have $30 of DLC and it wouldn't amount to what I could get in a good expansion pack for $30, then I value it as a waste of money.

 

[TorqueConverter]

disscusion:
1.Is companies abusing DLC for personal gain?
2.do you believe that DLC is one of the best things in resent gaming ?

I Should also say that I don't hate the idea of DLC I just hate what's being done to it

DLC is awesome.

It's unfair to blame DLC for behaviors of the game pub/devs abusing it. I've never viewed DLC as an expansion but as a game mod released by the game developers. As a gamer the ability to purchase additional content developed after the game has been released that can enrich your gaming experience is great. As a devloper, the ability to create additional content for a game after release is an additional revenue stream.

DLC is a win-win situation when done properly.

 

[spartandude]

well let me put it this way, Fable The Lost Chapters (yes its a decade old or so) but a full game on steam for £7, day 1 dlc for mass effect 3 nearly £10

having said that dlc is still overall awsome, but is being abused

 

[Brutal Peanut]

Depends on the DLC. I like to judge DLC individually. I've purchased some, haven't purchased others. Hit and miss, I think.
Judge wisely if your money is involved.

 

[VonKlaw]

Like alot of people have said, it really depends on the DLC. Stuff like Dandark mentioned (Shivering Isles, TLATD.etc) are amazing for how much they cost, but then they're basically old school expansion packs. Even some of the smaller DLC that adds to games but aren't really neccesary are also good (I quite like Desperate Escape from RE5 for example).

The problem is that companies are using it as a green light to make shite and charge for it. They're basically making stuff that is Horse Armour Mk2 but getting away with it because some people will buy ANYTHING.