DLC..... This shit has to stop

[Pimppeter2]

I have tricked you. You all think this is about how DLC sucks! No sir. I am clever like a fox. Some sort of sexy pimping fox. "Foxy" as some would say. I would totally do me.

Ahem....

ANYWAYS... My point..

"This should have just been and expansion pack!" Cry the gamers of the world, cling on to their money like some starving child in a alley of thieves.

This trend became popular about the time that Halo 3: ODST came out. Which was understandable, seeing as ODST (as good as it was) was not really worth the heavy price tag, especially because it had been planned to be DLC.

But soon, the trend festered, and grew.

Soon people were saying this for titles like L4D2, which to an extent was still reasonable.


But no, the masses were still unpleased. They needed to ride this wagon as long as possible.

And then I heard

"Assasins Creed 2 should have been an Expansion pack for the original."

SO I beg you gamers, please stop shouting this at every sequel that comes out. It is mind boggling.

Discussion: What ridiculous "Should have been an expansion LULRZ" comments have you come across? For what game?

All games ever released should have been an expansion pack for Pong. End of discussion.

/thread. I had to put this in my OP

 

[Doc Incognito]

None. They either have had expansions since release, or no one cares enough for some DLC.

 

[grimsprice]

"they should have just made a gun mod for Oblivion instead of wasting money making Fallout 3"

Honest to God I've heard that...

 

[rokkolpo]

that every call of duty after the first one should have been DLC.

 

[Kuchinawa212]

Aww I was about to say...'But DLCs aren't all that bad"

Now what game could use a DLC... I say SW: Republic Commando. More missions or at least just one to figure out what happens to sev. Not really worth a 50 buck price tag unless they make a whole other game

 

[Internet Kraken]

I agree it has become ridiculous. It's proven multiple times that the changes made in Left 4 Dead 2 meant that it could not have been DLC for the first game. Now it's fine to believe that it's not worth full price. That's your opinion, and your entitled to it. But saying it should have been DLC is just stupid.


It's weird. Gamers criticize companies for making to much DLC, and then they condemn them when they make sequels instead of DLC. Gamers are never satisfied.

 

[Arker]

"they should have just made a gun mod for Oblivion instead of wasting money making Fallout 3"

Honest to God I've heard that...

I liked fallout 3 more than Oblivion...

 

[achilleas.k]

The latest Wolfenstein should have been an expansion pack to Wolfenstein 3D!!!

 

[Sassafrass]

To be honest, the L4D2 one is the only one I've actually heard.
Yeah, it's pretty much more of the same but it's miles better. Hitting a zombie clown in the face with a guitar is never going to get old. Never.

 

[DominicxD]

But L4D2 SHOULD have been an update/expansion. There were not any MAJOR graphical improvements and there were new models introduced. Big deal. I personally did not buy it because I could not justify spending 40 bucks on a game I practically already had. With better main characters, too.

You're not going to make Valve turn Left 4 Dead 2 into a Left 4 Dead expansion pack. Just buy the game, enjoy it, and shut up. If you chose not to buy the game, its pretty much your loss. I'm not even a fanboy. I can vouch for the game and say that it is a whole lot better than the fist, since I love L4D2 and I couldn't be fucked with the first one.

 

[TheDrunkNinja]

Clever girl...

Honestly, I haven't truly heard much beyond what everybody already knows. Although, I have heard a lot about DLC that should have just been in the game. Seriously, any dev team that announces DLC for a game before the game in question is even released should be shot. Especially if it just adds maybe a few extra things and not, say, a new short storyline to add expand on the game. But, I'm sure many of you have heard that one before.

 

[Rednog]

But L4D2 SHOULD have been an update/expansion. There were not any MAJOR graphical improvements and there were new models introduced. Big deal. I personally did not buy it because I could not justify spending 40 bucks on a game I practically already had. With better main characters, too.

I'm sorry but you have no idea what you are talking about. As much as I love the original cast, Ellis hands down is greater than all four combined. L4D2 isn't just graphic and model updates, the systems have been changed alot. The campaigns are highly diverse and each come with various environmental effects. I've tried to go back and play the first, they are two completely different beast and my play style has to change completely from one to the other. Character interactions codes were changed, a new AI director, zombie AI, special infected AI all changed.

 

[maddawg IAJI]

I actually never heard the AC2 thought, but now I'm tempted to say MW2 should have been an expansion. I won't.....but the temptation is still there.

I still think the Left 4 Dead 2 one is kinda strange as well. Mainly because the game was a huge expansion on the first.

 

[Spleenbag]

Seriously, any dev team that announces DLC for a game before the game in question is even released should be shot.

Just one problem with your assertion here. By the time a game has gone gold and is ready to ship, it has often been done for a while and has just been going through playtesting. During this interim period, any new or exciting ideas the developers may have had will get developed for later release, but as the game is already completed, they are unable to stick this stuff in.

 

[Sethzard]

This shit is crazy, I don't mind paying for full games if they're worth the money, but seriously, ac2 and fallout 3, those games easily had 20 hours each, and that was with very few side quests.

 

[Onyx Oblivion]

By that logic:

All sequels (of any number 2-infinity) should be DLC.

Not only would we need to buy the game, but we'd need to buy bigger hard drives.

Ocarina of Time should have been DLC.

 

[SnootyEnglishman]

hmm.....other than L4D2 and other's i haven't heard much complaints that i really cared to pay attention to

 

[Pimppeter2]

[HEADING=1]If you guys fight about L4D, I will slap you with a Banana. Fair warning[/HEADING]

 

[Internet Kraken]

But L4D2 SHOULD have been an update/expansion. There were not any MAJOR graphical improvements and there were new models introduced. Big deal. I personally did not buy it because I could not justify spending 40 bucks on a game I practically already had. With better main characters, too.

Because the only reason a sequel is ever made is to improve graphics, right?


Valve made major changes to the game. The new AI system was to complex to be added to the old game. It was not possible to implement dynamic weather and level changes into the old AI director, so they had to make a new one. Plus the new system for generating gore could also have not been added to the game. The changes that mandated that Left 4 Dead 2 be a sequel rather than DLC are not directly visible at first glance, but they are certainly there.

STOP! I know one of the first counter-arguments to this is going to be that the AI wasn't improved at all, and is now worse. Well that's complete bullshit. The new SI AI is far more complex. The AI director actually has the SI work as a team rather than simply bum rush you like they did in Left 4 Dead. The survivor AI hasn't gotten any worse either. Don't judge the AI based on that one Youtube video we've all seen when they jump over the ledge. I've only seen one in-game example of that stupidity. And the AI wasn't perfect when Left 4 Dead was released either. Keep in mind that the original game has had multiple patches to iron out all the bugs on the official maps.

 

[Pimppeter2]

But L4D2 SHOULD have been an update/expansion. There were not any MAJOR graphical improvements and there were new models introduced. Big deal. I personally did not buy it because I could not justify spending 40 bucks on a game I practically already had. With better main characters, too.

Because the only reason a sequel is ever made is to improve graphics, right?


Valve made major changes to the game. The new AI system was to complex to be added to the old game. It was not possible to implement dynamic weather and level changes into the old AI director, so they had to make a new one. Plus the new system for generating gore could also have not been added to the game. The changes that mandated that Left 4 Dead 2 be a sequel rather than DLC are not directly visible at first glance, but they are certainly there.

STOP! I know one of the first counter-arguments to this is going to be that the AI wasn't improved at all, and is now worse. Well that's complete bullshit. The new SI AI is far more complex. The AI director actually has the SI work as a team rather than simply bum rush you like they did in Left 4 Dead. The survivor AI hasn't gotten any worse either. Don't judge the AI based on that one Youtube video we've all seen when they jump over the ledge. I've only seen one in-game example of that stupidity. And the AI wasn't perfect when Left 4 Dead was released either. Keep in mind that the original game has had multiple patches to iron out all the bugs on the official maps.

[HEADING=1]*Banana Slap*[/HEADING]

I warned you.