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[zen5887]

Le Bump!!

So whats the word on 4th ed now that its out? I've read both sides.. On one end they say that it is a lot simpler and easyer to swallow making gameplay smooth.. On the other end I've heard people say its pretty much a complex boardgame instead of an RPG

Personaly I am gonna stick to 3.5.. Mainly due to the fact I cant afford 3 more books but also because I dont want to play a boardgame.. I like DnD the way it is and I see 4th as a way for Wizards to cash in on the MMO (mainly WoW) trend thats sprung up over the last few years. There is also a lot of changes I really dont like (which I have expressed earlyer in this thread)..

So can anyone give me a more educated oppinion of 4th? I guess I should try it one day.. One day

 

[Logan Westbrook]

4th Edition has basically taken D&D full circle. It grew out of a war game and it's pretty much turned back into one. Each class has a massive list of attack powers now, the skill list has been cut down and the game is almost impossible to play without some sort of 'battle grid'. That said, it also has features that make more sense now. For example, your Armour Class is now affected by your level, meaning the more experienced you are, the harder you are to hit.

But the thing is with D&D is that it has always been an anachronism in modern gaming. Despite what people try and tell you, it's always been about fighting monsters and getting loot, 3rd Edition just didn't want to admit it.

To say it's not a role-playing game though is ridiculous. It's as much of an RPG as any other edition of D&D.

 

[aliassavarias]

i play D&D whenever i get the chance but i can only play a watterd down simpler verson with the pepole i hang out with but evry now and then i run in to some pepole who play for real but in the real game im way to inexpireanced to be a DM i also dont know the rules by heart so i need help i have a low level fighter

 

[aliassavarias]

i have that problom to

 

[aliassavarias]

yeah me to

 

[Logan Westbrook]

yeah me to

I'm not quite sure who you're talking to, but don't triple post please.

 

[Dalric]

I have been playing DnD for approximately 17 years now. I actually started at about the age of seven or eight, but it included no paper or dice, just the DM's imagination and what not. I still miss V2.0 because of how broken it was and some of the changes that they made in 3.0 and 3.5, but 3.5 is more well rounded.

As far as my experience, i played for about 6 years and I have been DM'ing ever since. In fact, my last campaign that I wrote, in short, was about a vault of legendary weapons needed to kill a specific creature who was going to bring about the end of humanity as the PC's knew it. The catch was that throughout the entire campaign, there are plenty of riddles they had to figure out to get them to the weapons and hands on puzzles. I LOVE to keep the game constantly mixed up for the PC's to be able to keep them involved instead of pure RP or hack and slash.

My favorite things to do as a DM are to involve the back-story of the characters into my campaigns as well as having a campaign that is real time/ever changing to what the PC's choose to do. ie: next to no restrictions at all.

Favorite background story I ever had form a PC was "My character has anmesia". needless to say, by the end of the campaign I had him cry, get pissed, laugh, ect over the TRUTH about his character.

Also I believe that being able to Improvise on the stop is a HUGE AND NECESSARY tool for a DM to have!!!

 

[T.H.O.R]

Just recently converted to 4e, and started my own campaign (I'm DM) My wife and two best friends play.

We've been playing for about 6 years.

 

[zen5887]

Also I believe that being able to Improvise on the stop is a HUGE AND NECESSARY tool for a DM to have!!!

I've made up entire sessions on the spot.

"Hey Lachlan.. Wanna play some DnD?" "I..I dont really have anything to go on" "Naah thats allright" "Ohh..kay.."

Good times

 

[BBLIZZARD]

I started in 2005 as a dm and stopped in 06. I recently joined a group and i'm instead a player now (Sorceror)

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Oh and I'd ban Oriental Adventures before you start. 3d10 damage through armour is quite game breaking.

I never saw anything in Oriental adventures that impressed me, how are you dealing 3d10 through armor? I say that because I've built horrible things that can compete with the tome of battle, without cheating, or having a weapon over a +3 total bonus.

Martial Artist using Crushing Blow on someone in Plate. I would find the exact rules but it's hidden at the back of my room under 20 years worth of books.

 

[Kovash86]

Oh and I'd ban Oriental Adventures before you start. 3d10 damage through armour is quite game breaking.

I never saw anything in Oriental adventures that impressed me, how are you dealing 3d10 through armor? I say that because I've built horrible things that can compete with the tome of battle, without cheating, or having a weapon over a +3 total bonus.

Martial Artist using Crushing Blow on someone in Plate. I would find the exact rules but it's hidden at the back of my room under 20 years worth of books.

So even if you miss you still deal 3d10 damage?

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Oh and I'd ban Oriental Adventures before you start. 3d10 damage through armour is quite game breaking.

I never saw anything in Oriental adventures that impressed me, how are you dealing 3d10 through armor? I say that because I've built horrible things that can compete with the tome of battle, without cheating, or having a weapon over a +3 total bonus.

Martial Artist using Crushing Blow on someone in Plate. I would find the exact rules but it's hidden at the back of my room under 20 years worth of books.

So even if you miss you still deal 3d10 damage?

You make a roll to hit the Armour rather than the Armour Class, if you can grab it, you then force the Plates/Chain/Scale into the body underneath.

Nice.

 

[SkellingtonDoll]

I miss Bards.
Gnomes too.
The games just not the same if you cant play a gnome.
I also miss half-orcs.

 

[Eyclonus]

Oh and I'd ban Oriental Adventures before you start. 3d10 damage through armour is quite game breaking.

I never saw anything in Oriental adventures that impressed me, how are you dealing 3d10 through armor? I say that because I've built horrible things that can compete with the tome of battle, without cheating, or having a weapon over a +3 total bonus.

Martial Artist using Crushing Blow on someone in Plate. I would find the exact rules but it's hidden at the back of my room under 20 years worth of books.

So even if you miss you still deal 3d10 damage?

You make a roll to hit the Armour rather than the Armour Class, if you can grab it, you then force the Plates/Chain/Scale into the body underneath.

Nice.

F*** me.... Ok I'm sure as hell making sure my group never uses that sourcebook...
Most of the games I DM consist of players trying to find the most cheesey way to break the game.

 

[Kovash86]

Doesn't affect me too much I tend to rely on not being hit by having almost all of my armor be dex or evasive based (like mobility only it works against everything and isn't as high, it's a feet called expeditious dodge and the like) does this work against leather?

 

[zen5887]

Bam

Question: I've got my guys doing a pre made adventure which is so far going well. At the end of it they will be lvl 10 and I think it would be good that they continue their characters. Now instead of me writing another piss poor adventure myself I think im gonna stick to pre mades

Does anyone know a good pre made adventure for lvl 10 characters?

Thanks

 

[Graustein]

I love D&D, but I haven't had the chance to play it so much recently.
In about a month, after I'm done with school, I'll get back into it and DM a game for my friends. It's freaking awesome.

 

[LewsTherin]

Bugger all, 2nd Ed is the way to go. I looked into 4th for a while...it made me die a little inside.

 

[zen5887]

Bugger all, 2nd Ed is the way to go. I looked into 4th for a while...it made me die a little inside.

Man 4th ed is gross...

I'm quite happy with 3.5.. I will be sticking with that for awhile