Sarcasm is a form of irony.Mutie said:Wht always confuses me is when they say "No, I was talking ironically"... That doesn't make sense. You were being sarcastic!
Sarcasm is a form of irony.Mutie said:Wht always confuses me is when they say "No, I was talking ironically"... That doesn't make sense. You were being sarcastic!
This.Canadian Briton said:Nah its just that sarcasm dosen't translate well onto the internet.
You should write for Wikipedia !formless777 said:Haven't you heard ? Sarcasm was listed as an Un-American activity during the McCarthy Era and was banned in all states except Texas where they were too dumb to spell Sarcasm, let alone understand it. Now Sarcasm is a lost art-form in the USA except for a surviving Ivy league underground culture which is famous for growing it's sarcasm so dry that they sell it to drug companies to put in little desiccant sachets with your bottles of pills.
Canadian Briton said:Nah its just that sarcasm dosen't translate well onto the internet.
Seeing both of your avatars together made my night.Dags90 said:With the large popularity of satirical comedy shows (Daily Show, Colbert Report, South Park, et. al.), I would be inclined to think Americans are fine with sarcasm. It's generally accepted that sarcasm is hard to portray as text.
But I hear that people do actually pay to see Dane Cook live; if that's not an indication of a lack of subtlety, I don't know what is.SuperMse said:Oh, thanks for the insult.
This.Canadian Briton said:Nah its just that sarcasm dosen't translate well onto the internet.
Yes.Booze Zombie said:Am I wrong
Part joke, part serious. It was my first response mentally when I saw the thread, but then I realized that it fit perfectly, given that it actually is sarcastic, given that I am thanking the OP for something that I do not like.Woodsey said:I wouldn't say they don't all get it, but I'd say that they're more likely to take what you've said literally.
To be fair, if you're going to be sarcastic in a piece of writing it takes a lot more skill to have it read as sarcasm, as opposed to being face-to-face with someone. Which is partly why I can't tell if this is a joke:
SuperMse said:Oh, thanks for the insult.
Blame bush, he was all that the world saw of Texas and the American south for 8 years. Personally i like the southern accent best of all, but when you have a notoriously bad public speaker representing your part of the world for the better part of a decade the southern stereotpye is going to be adjusted because of it.Kingstome said:Americans understand sarcasm just fine. As a lot of people have said, it just doesn't translate well to text.
I think the reason that a couple of people got defensive over this and assumed that it was intended to be an "America Bashing" thread was because we catch a lot of flak. The entire world hears the word American and instantly assumes that the person in question is an idiot. Since we are so used to defending our IQ based on where we were born, we might jump to arms a little quickly.
Last, whats with people throwing the southern states into the line of fire? Now, I might talk a little slow, but that's just the accent I grew up around. I promise I'm just as capable of understanding sarcasm as anyone else, and so is everyone else around here.
Sarcasm is defined as using ironic wit to deride. However "talking ironically" isn't correct English, so you were right.Mutie said:Wht always confuses me is when they say "No, I was talking ironically"... That doesn't make sense. You were being sarcastic!
No Americans get sarcasm. Now irony, they don't get. So they end up being unintentionally ironically 'ironic'.Booze Zombie said:- Snip -