Do nice guys really finish last?
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Watching some videos i missed last week, and i see this crap again...like the search bar doesn't even exist...Everythingincredible said it best on the first page post 26...i can understand that someone is looking for advice on a forum site or something, but gimmie a break. You're trying to find relationship advice on a video game site?
Nice guys finish last? who cares? if a woman/man likes you Great! if not, then move on ffs...7 billion people on this planet you think cuz you can't find 1 that will stay with you longer than a month, then the whole world is going to end?
Nice guys finish last? who cares? if a woman/man likes you Great! if not, then move on ffs...7 billion people on this planet you think cuz you can't find 1 that will stay with you longer than a month, then the whole world is going to end?
Nice guys do not finish last.
Guys who don't make moves finish last.
Commonly accepted facts: Women are attracted to competence, popularity and power.
If you are a nice guy, do:
-Appear Competent
-Appear Popular and Sought After
-Appear Socially Powerful
-Be Interesting
-Be Interested
-Be Dominant
-Flirt
-All of those things over a span of a few weeks
Don't:
-Be a friend
-Be a brother/farther figure
-Wait for her to come to you
-Wait around for months
-Be senselessly devoted
-Be submissive
There is a misconception between "Nice guys" and "Insecure guys who can't man up and ask."
Guys who don't make moves finish last.
Commonly accepted facts: Women are attracted to competence, popularity and power.
If you are a nice guy, do:
-Appear Competent
-Appear Popular and Sought After
-Appear Socially Powerful
-Be Interesting
-Be Interested
-Be Dominant
-Flirt
-All of those things over a span of a few weeks
Don't:
-Be a friend
-Be a brother/farther figure
-Wait for her to come to you
-Wait around for months
-Be senselessly devoted
-Be submissive
There is a misconception between "Nice guys" and "Insecure guys who can't man up and ask."
honestly constantly calling a girl princess all the time isn't a good way in my opinion to keep her you're much better off just being "on her level"novixz said:
honestly this too mutual cooperation is good for most decisions but if she has no idea how to deal with something she is gonna expect you to take chargeDaddy Go Bot said:
That's not being nice, that's being patronising. He was talking down to all of his girlfriends, and then he thinks people who talk to her like a normal person is being an arse when he's just being sensible.
He's not being a nice guy, he's being a pussy.
He's not being a nice guy, he's being a pussy.
I agree in most of your arguments, but you did forgot what happens on the chemical level of the body: kisses actually exchanges substances and unconsciously have an impact on how well the relationship is going, and being in a relationship relaxes both male and female partners, for example. so some things explain others too...MagnetoHydroDynamics said:
Pretty much this but also that should be noted that sometimes try not looking for love i currently have had no relationships to speak of do to me being something of a door mat but im still generely sound with that... What im really trying to say is this "If you have great friends a sound job and a drink in hand you have time to try try again until you find him or her... theres no hurry."MagnetoHydroDynamics said:
I used to think this, but overall, being nice is actually a plus for girls. The misconception guys have is that they're entitled to be loved by girls everywhere just because they aren't assholes to everyone. Maybe your friend should work on his confidence, looks, demeanor, social skills, ect. It's unreasonably idealistic to demand that "niceness" be the only metric girls use when looking for a guy because we all know guys are just as shallow.
Long story short: don't get rid of the niceness, improve everything else. Douchebags get girls despite their attitude, not because of it.
99 percent of the time, yes. Even if you don't put women on a pedestal, and you're just NICE to them, they usually want nothing to do with you. Most want an aggressive, confident man. Of course, this is generalizing, and obviously doesn't apply to all women.
I actually read somewhere sometime that it's a scientific fact that women prefer bad boys.
So when a nice guy asks himself how to get girls, the answer is treat them like crap. Although I hope it isn't true because then I will die alone.
I've also noticed women can be alot meaner than guys, I mean guys can do pretty bad stuff but when girls go bad, they go REALLY bad. One girl I had a relationship with really shattered view of girls in general, I noticed a guy was talking very flirty with her on facebook, then I asked him if we was aware that she was in a relationship with me, I was totally unprepared for his answer... He said that the girl had said that we weren't actually together, that I paid her to be my girlfriend on facebook because I was some sort of creep. I tried to convince him otherwise but he believed her no matter what, I broke up with her and sure enough they are a couple soon after, although they also broke up soon after for a third guy and then I laughed and laghed at him for doubting me^^ Revenge seldom taste sweet, but when it do it's worth more then all the riches in the world...
So when a nice guy asks himself how to get girls, the answer is treat them like crap. Although I hope it isn't true because then I will die alone.
I've also noticed women can be alot meaner than guys, I mean guys can do pretty bad stuff but when girls go bad, they go REALLY bad. One girl I had a relationship with really shattered view of girls in general, I noticed a guy was talking very flirty with her on facebook, then I asked him if we was aware that she was in a relationship with me, I was totally unprepared for his answer... He said that the girl had said that we weren't actually together, that I paid her to be my girlfriend on facebook because I was some sort of creep. I tried to convince him otherwise but he believed her no matter what, I broke up with her and sure enough they are a couple soon after, although they also broke up soon after for a third guy and then I laughed and laghed at him for doubting me^^ Revenge seldom taste sweet, but when it do it's worth more then all the riches in the world...
People are saying that people change as they age, but IMO probably just the wrong girls if they dump him to get treated like crap.
I don't know where this 'nice guys finish last' came from (it's pretty old) but I haven't really found that the level of kindness you exude determines the inherent speed at which you finish things.
I'm not saying that it might not be the case in some situations, but statements like that that inherently rely on evidence and fact presented with none of the above don't really contribute anything.
I don't know where this 'nice guys finish last' came from (it's pretty old) but I haven't really found that the level of kindness you exude determines the inherent speed at which you finish things.
Oookay. Just gonna say right now without any scientific facts backing this up you may as well say "I've read somewhere that all people living on Earth now originated from the Egyptians, and they were all originally aliens and humans were actually wiped off the face of the Earth."Crazycat690 said:
I'm not saying that it might not be the case in some situations, but statements like that that inherently rely on evidence and fact presented with none of the above don't really contribute anything.
nice guys finish last, mostly.
i'm a good guy, as in I compliment my girlfriend but not all the time-that just makes you look kinda needy, treat your girlfriend well obviously and give her attention but make sure to try and be confident too and show that you aren't needy. tell her you love her and be nice but my mate did this too much and she left him for a total dick for what appeared to be just self confidence. try the confidence, it will work...done correctly, don't be too arrogant while being confident.
i'm a good guy, as in I compliment my girlfriend but not all the time-that just makes you look kinda needy, treat your girlfriend well obviously and give her attention but make sure to try and be confident too and show that you aren't needy. tell her you love her and be nice but my mate did this too much and she left him for a total dick for what appeared to be just self confidence. try the confidence, it will work...done correctly, don't be too arrogant while being confident.
Obviously not, because I am nice guy among nice guys and I got a good girl 
And she doesn't chase after bad boys while leaving good guys in the friend zone, she is smart enough to see past all that and went for me which is awesome.
And she doesn't chase after bad boys while leaving good guys in the friend zone, she is smart enough to see past all that and went for me which is awesome.
To elaborate: I seem to be seeing a lot of assumptions that one factor, kindness, drives women away.
It seems much more likely that it's a number of factors that may or may be not even be related to kindness, including the woman in question.
It seems much more likely that it's a number of factors that may or may be not even be related to kindness, including the woman in question.
...I was so tempted to just go full cliche'd outback on you right there, but that would be off topic slightly, mate.Abandon4093 said:
Personally, I reckon they should just hang in there. Maybe hold back on the lovie-dovey slightly, but by all means keep trying. Eventually, your lucky numbers will come around and you'll find someone you truly belong with.
Well, kinda. In my experience, at least. I'm a nice guy, and she always finished firs....
Oh, wait, we're talking about something else here, aren't we?
Oh, wait, we're talking about something else here, aren't we?
Guys who whine about being nice guys who finish last will ALWAYS lose out.
Confidence.
A balance between being nice and not objectifying her. (If I started calling my wife "Princess", she'd only think I was insulting her - the stereotypical princess image is of a pampered idiot who is constantly the victim)
Did I mention confidence? Because that comes from having some sort of skill set - it's hard to be confident if you don't have any skills to be confident in. Know that you bring A, B & C to the relationship and that she brings X, Y, and Z.
That said, a vote against all the people saying don't be friends. A girlfriend and eventually wife should be a great friend with whom you can trade orgasms.
Confidence.
A balance between being nice and not objectifying her. (If I started calling my wife "Princess", she'd only think I was insulting her - the stereotypical princess image is of a pampered idiot who is constantly the victim)
Did I mention confidence? Because that comes from having some sort of skill set - it's hard to be confident if you don't have any skills to be confident in. Know that you bring A, B & C to the relationship and that she brings X, Y, and Z.
That said, a vote against all the people saying don't be friends. A girlfriend and eventually wife should be a great friend with whom you can trade orgasms.