Do people dislike the Xbox One because of what it is or the functions it was supposed to have?

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Bob_McMillan

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Im not sure if you could call them functions, but Im sure you have all memorized them by now. Always online, Kinect, etc, etc.

But the Xbox One doesnt even have this shit anymore, so why do so many people still have disdain for the Xbone? I mean, it's a pretty good console, if inferior in everyway to the PS4. I guess, I dont know anything about the Bone. Some say the difference between the two is negligible, some say otherwise. Others think that the RAM or something of the Bone is faster, others say its slower. Bah.

So the reason I think that people hate the console is because of all the things that the Xbone would have represented if Microsoft hadn't backpedalled.

I personally hate it because its so hard to abbreviate. Do you use Xone? That just looks stupid. Xbone? The Xbox fanboys will jump down your throat. Xbox One? Too damn long.
 

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Because it isn't home to any games I care about that aren't already on PC. I have no interest in its exclusives compared to the PS4. I dislike the Xbox One, but I have no qualms with someone making it their platform of their choice. It's their decision. I just don't like Microsoft, either. Sony's no saint, granted. And neither is Nintendo. But I just went with the console that most matches my interests. I'm also going to try to grab a Wii U sometime down the road as well. Right now though, I just play shit on PS4 and PC depending on how difficult the game is to run on PC relative to my quickly aging computer.

The difference between the two 'big' consoles right now is honestly negligible outside of a few exclusives that weighted me towards the PS4. There's the obvious and obligatory Bloodborne mention, for sure. And then there's a bunch of fighting games I'm interested in that only really get released on PS4 because that's where most of the audience ends up being (the slightly more obscure stuff).
 

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due to the initial reveal I've lost all faih in this piece of technology. The fact that M$ can change features any way they want at any time doesnt help. Also it has no games on it worth playing and it has been 2 years after release. Also if 360 is something to go by no sane person would buy M$ hardware within first few years because those things just died as soon as you pluged them in and saw the logo. At this time the fact that M$ lost this console genertion 5m sold to 20m sold of PS4 I doubt there will be anything worth while to play on x1 as no one would fund development for such a small install base.
PS4 is not much better thought as there is nothing to play on that thing either but it least it knows that it is a gaming console not an unnecesary multimidea device.
Nintendo looks like it is now actually competing this console generation as it offers least ammount of offensive stunts to go thought in order to play games.
 

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I only have one friend with an xbone, and he's a die-hard MS fan. He bought every Halo game day one and owns four 360s just for LAN parties. He hates his One.

He says it's super slow, laggy, crashes all the time, takes forever to boot up, and just generally doesn't work well. It's actually at the point where if a game is avalible on One and 360, he'll get the 360 version.
 

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My dislike for Microsoft started before the Xbone controversy. I bought a 360 sometime in its first year, and I also own a PC. For a few years I considered myself to be multiformat, but as time went on I used the 360 less and less. Between 2011 and 2013 I bought 7 games total for my 360, compared to 99 for the PC (yes I did play them all). Most of those games I bought for 360 were also out on PC, but I wanted to use a controller (I've since bought a 360 pad for windows).

So, the biggest thing for me was "where are all the games?" Every time Microsoft did a conference like E3, it was all music, sports, films, social media. Then they finally start talking about games, and it was all Kinect, which I didn't care about.

I'd already pretty much decided against buying an Xbone because I didn't feel like Microsoft cared about games anymore. Their disaster of an Xbone reveal was the final nail.

Even though they've backtracked on alot of the controversial features, they still lack games. Everything I want is on PC, no reason to buy a console. I've got so many games on my Steam wishlist that I'm struggling to find time for them all. The only game I'm missing is Rise of the Tomb Raider, and the feeling is that will come to PC eventually anyway.
 

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The original X-Box I bought way-back-when was defective and had to be replaced. The replacement system worked, but it came with a defective controller. The controller was one of the redesigned small ones. When they shipped me a replacement controller, it was one of the original laughably huge and uncomfortable ones. When I contacted Microsoft and explained the situation, hoping they'd swap the behemoth controller with a small one like the one I sent them, they said they wouldn't. When I went out to buy a small controller I couldn't find one in any local stores for about a week. By the time I found one and got to play my games it had been a solid two months since I bought the original system. I was stuck with that behemoth controller too, and no one ever wanted to use it whenever my friends got together for some multiplayer.

The X-Box 360 that was given to me as a Christmas present from my sister the year that it launched was also defective. It would scratch a big black line into the bottoms of any discs put into it. The store exchanged it for a new console, but wouldn't replace the games damaged (nor would Microsoft). The replacement X-Box 360 worked fine for about two years, then a software update ended up causing it to Red Ring of Death. My college roommate's X-Box 360 was bricked by the same update. Microsoft refused to fix or replace either of our systems without paying them a hefty fee. My roommate paid it, I said to hell with X-Box.

I didn't buy the XBone because my experiences with both prior Microsoft consoles and Microsoft customer service were abysmal. I wasn't going to throw any more money at their gaming department. All of the anti-customer bullshit that was in their system originally, and their seemingly genuine shock at people's reactions (and hasty backpedaling) only served to highlight how completely disconnected and out-of-touch they are with their users. Not to mention the fact that the gamers don't even seem like the system's target audience anymore. Even now it seems like Microsoft is more interested in the console's use as a multimedia station than its use for playing video games. I don't give a flying fuck about a game console being able to do other multimedia functions, because I've already got devices for that - ones that work far more reliably, more simply, and faster. It's really no surprise to me that the higher-ups at Microsoft aren't even particularly impressed by their gaming department.

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And seriously, screw X-Box Live. Paying an additional fee to play multiplayer, using an internet connection I'm already paying for, in games that don't have dedicated servers - and still having to deal with advertisements - is such a scam.
 

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I don't care for any of the "current gen" consoles. Xbox just happens to be the most dull out of all of them.

That and it's run by a company that tried to abolish end user ownership by implementing an account based always online DRM for ****ing retail games.

You know, after trying that, I'm not inclined to put any faith towards that company. In fact, I think the industry would be better off if they went away entirely.

Oh, and Halo 4 was absolute garbage. So for me they've ruined what little I still liked on the system. Good job 343 Studios! Nice job on screwing up the Anniversary edition of the original Halo too (Even more unstable framerate and freezing issues)!
 

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Is there still a lot of disdain for Xbox one? I haven't noticed much of it, and even what little there is seems to be more generalized disdain for consoles as a whole than anything.

If you're referring to its sales still lingering behind the PS4, and its reception generally being less impressive than the same, that all ties into the controversies at its launch, yeah. With game consoles, the first one to pick up momentum generally wins out, and Microsoft stumbled out of the gate. In this age of online play, it's more relevant than ever; since if someone wants to buy a console, and all their friends have PS4s, they're likely to get the same so they can all play together, and what have you.

I don't personally have any special hatred for the Xbone, though a new console is expensive, and at present the library for it doesn't offer me anything I want that I couldn't get with my PS4. Plus, I'm a JRPG gamer, so microsoft, traditionally, hasn't been the console of choice.
 

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Show me the games it has that I would want to play that I cannot get anywhere else. If that list takes two hands to count on then I will actually consider buying the console.
 

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I think that it is just because of how it was revealed. Always online, more expensive than the PS4, Kinect requirement, sports, sports, sports, etc. First impressions are very important, and Microsoft certainly dropped the ball there. The Xbox One is certainly a decent piece of hardware, and I personally own one, but I believe that a lot of the negativity directed at the Xbox One can be sourced from the reveal event and the E3 presentation.
 

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Killer Instinct, Forza 5 and Sunset Overdrive are the only current exclusives for it. None of these three are bad games, but it's not worth the purchase of a whole console for.
 

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Well, first, the attitude that brought about many of those "features" wasn't just a little off-putting. It had anti-consumer implications that posed a serious threat to the rest of the industry. It posited an "always on" feature that was inconvenient to many customers and seemed largely about protecting companies from the used market and enabling the "day-one patch" and heavy DLC sales models that so many of us have come to loathe. And that's before the incredibly misguided sense that the XB1 was a media center first and a games console second, as reflected by the heavy emphasis on television in early promotions. To the best of my knowledge, the "media center" functionality still serves as a roadblock to developers being able to make full use of the system's resources, functionality that apes many functions that exist in devices users interested in watching television already own.

That Microsoft eventually backpedaled on most of the worst ideas doesn't mean they replaced those "features" with things their customers actually wanted. And I think many people, myself included, are still waiting for indication that the "we'll tell you what you like" sentiments have actually been excised from their creative processes, rather than that a single generation of those sentiments' products have merely been amputated due to direct consumer pressure.

Similarly, while Microsoft has started making some inroads in the "indie" market, they have a lot of catch-up to do, and a long and regrettable history of alienating independent developers and putting hurdles in the way of their creating and publishing the games they wanted to create.

Then there's the Kinect. Ignoring the security issues and laying aside how long it took Microsoft to detach the hardware so their console could approach price parity, Kinect has largely remained an interesting idea that almost no one, including Microsoft's own people, has been able to make functional software around. Sure, it might be fun to call out commands to your console, but most implementations have been gimmicky at best, glitchy and ill-conceived at worst. When the hardware that made you spend over a hundred dollars more than you would have for a competitor's product just makes you swear at the screen and wish the dev had simply designed with the traditional controller in mind instead, you have a problem.

Others have pointed out that few of the console's titles aren't available for PC. With Street Fighter V now coming to PC and PS4 but not the XBox One, that becomes particularly glaring.

Basically, The XB1 occupies a space right now that begs the question "Why?" in all but hardcore brand loyalists. Unless one is fanatically devoted to Microsoft or Halo (and that latter loyalty has survived the original creators moving on to other projects), or mad about Sunset Overdrive (a game some have quite enjoyed, in fairness), or perhaps sustains a steady faith that something like Crackdown will return and make it all worthwhile...

...The XBox started out costing more, and Microsoft's reversals have left early adopters with little but grief to show for it. Most games common to both systems play as well or better on the PS4 for those with budget issues, and often far better on PCs for those who shell out for high-end gaming systems. More games are available for both the PC and PS4; more interesting games seem to be in the works for both the PC and PS4. Games like Titanfall and Killer Instinct have started big but ended up underwhelming; semi-promising new offerings like Quantum Break, promoted from XB1's inception, have suffered long delays.

Now, all this negativity said, I'm sure there are people out there with XBox Ones that have had enjoyable experiences with them. That is: there is a box under my tv, I use it to play games, I can play those games and have fun. If one isn't immersed in "game culture" and constantly reading about news and new releases, I don't doubt it would be perfectly possible for one's ownership of same (and only the same) not to be tinged with envy, exasperation, or resentment; just pleasant game and media experiences.

But for someone who does allow themselves to delve into such matters, and make comparisons, and read the scuttlebutt regarding the options, and doesn't start into the fray with strong pre-existing brand loyalties... It's hard to see what would make one choose the XB1 over the PS4 or the PC.

Hell, even the Wii-U has had more well-reviewed exclusive titles at this point.

TLDR: People dislike the XB1 because other available options surpass it in virtually every field that informed people would consider in choosing a game console, including price, performance, available software, "indie" support, exclusives, and customer relations.

(And yes, I'm aware Sony has some utterly horrorshow stories of customer relations, but in recent days this is one field where Microsoft has, regrettably, kept up.)
 

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God, where to start.... Lets start with the OPs example. They announced some truly draconian shit and pretended like we should have been grateful to be urinated on. Yea, they backpedaled, but the fact they even tried it proves how little they think of us and proves that they cannot be trusted.

Then theres the 360, what a broken piece of shit. To start, Red Ring, no more need be said on that. Then there's the fact that they didn't put in a buffer plate. What does that mean? It means that when playing on a 360 your disc flailed wildly within the tray and, with only minor movement, the disc will collide with the laser, scoring the surface and leaving a white ring around the disc, making it unreadable. The required amount of movement was so small that standing up on the opposite side of the room caused the floor to shift enough to ruin my fable 2 disc.

Now for the stupid people that will say"well you're not supposed to move it while you're using it", I'd like to point out that you can fucking SHAKE a gamecube, wii, PS3, ps2 and any CD/DVD drive on a PC and they wont ruin your discs. Add to that the fact you can't always predict what will happen(ie. minor earthquake, asshole rams a pole outside your house,someone trips and hits the floor too hard for its comfort, etc). It's fucking shoddy construction.

Then there's the abomination that is the 360 dashboard. It is nothing but fucking ads as far as the eye can see, making M$ money just because you turned on your console that you paid good money to use.Worse, every tab had one that was a video that would auto play itself. You know where there are ads on the PS3? In the fucking store and in the one tab under one option titled "whats new" and NO WHERE ELSE. You know how you play videos for them? You fucking CLICK ON THEM.

Lets talk titles. The Xbone has none. Or atleast nothing worth mentioning. All its original (ie launch)exclusives are now on the PC, which would be a good thing if they weren't terrible. Ryse would be a boring slog if it wasn't also lazy and without challenge. Dead rising 3 is the worst of the series.

Kinect. *Budum pish*
 

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Mutant1988 said:
I don't care for any of the "current gen" consoles. Xbox just happens to be the most dull out of all of them.

That and it's run by a company that tried to abolish end user ownership by implementing an account based always online DRM for ****ing retail games.

You know, after trying that, I'm not inclined to put any faith towards that company. In fact, I think the industry would be better off if they went away entirely.
Never mind that Steam does the exact same thing.
They require you to check in once a year. Xbox required you to check in once a day.
You don't actually own any of the games you buy. Xbox game discs could be used twice and then the next person had to pay for it.
Steam reserves all rights to delete any of them, without notice, and ever give you a refund. Xbox, to my knowledge, wouldn't do this. This is just a Steam thing.

I can get why people don't like the XOne. "graphics" bs, doesn't have games I want to play, etc. (Games are the most important factor when deciding to buy a console)

But don't act like it was the first time this has happened. Steam has been doing this to people for years.

Just to be clear...

Steam reserves all rights to delete your "property" without warning, or refund.
This means that you do NOT own any of the games you bought. If someone can take a game away from you without your consent:
You do not own that game.


I haven't had a single issue with my XOne. The only real gripe I have is that I have to update it more often than not.
 

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Bit of both. I swore I wouldn't get one as soon as they announced the insane restrictions, and apart from Killer Instinct, there's nothing that's even made me consider going back on that decision. And I was a diehard 360 fan back in the day.
 

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Microsoft tried to fuck us over. Just because they backed down does not change that fact for me. It also helps that they have fuck all exclusives that are in any way interesting to me.
 

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I bought an XBone a few weeks ago, and so far I like most of the features it has. There are 2 things that really jump out at me as being incredibly dumb though:

-The 'store' set-up is terrible. When you tell it you're shopping for games, there doesn't seem to be any way to arrange them, they're just randomly placed on the board. With the 360, you could arrange them by rating, name, or sub-divide it into genres. Hopefully they'll fix this as more games get added, because it's just really stupid the way it's done right now.

-This is the one that is just inexcusable, but I don't care because I don't play online, but "XBox Gold", and having to pay to play multiplayer. Seriously Microsoft? Sony figured out this was a terrible idea back with the PS3, and you guys still haven't hopped on this train yet? If I played Games online I definitely would have bought a PS4 instead.
 

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I don't dislike the Xbox One (or Xbox as I prefer to call it, as virtually no one is referring to the original one anymore, so nearly everyone assumes I am referring to the Xbone when I use it), I just don't care about it. Much like my views on Nintendo when the NDF kept asking why everyone was hating on Nintendo: I'm not, I just don't care.

I have been with Playstation ever since the original and I played games on my roommates. I was happy with it over Nintendo's offering at the time, so I continued with it and got both PS2 and then a PS3. Throughout the history of all the consoles, I have found the exclusive offerings appealed to me more than any of the competition's offerings. I was already planning to pick up a PS4 over an Xbox long before the terrible E3 showing because of this. E3 just further justified my decision.

So yeah, Xbox was never on my radar. The pre-E3 reveal and the horrible E3 conference were just funny to me, and the backpedaling was also a great source of amusement. But for me, just from the previous consoles, I expect the PS4 to have more games that will appeal to me than either Xbox or WiiU.

For those who have purchased an Xbox, I hope they enjoy it. I'm sure there are good games coming for both, but I expect the ones for PS4 will be more entertaining for me.