Do people not realize games aren't $60?

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Michael Legault

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Aerosteam said:
I still think that's a little steep even if the movie is more than 5 hours long.
God I've had taken my wife to the movies and after ticket and snacks easilly over $50. But you get a drink, popcorn AND a chocolate bar for only $18.99 how could it possibly be any cheaper!?
 

tilmoph

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Ok, this thread is 4 pages long, and I'm still lost on something; how are you getting $40 on a resale? I mean, if the game was really good and had lots of demand, sure, maybe. Like at least a 4/10 chance of pulling that off. But for a meh game that everyone knows is meh, who the hell is paying $40 for it? Especially if quite a few other people are doing the same thing after a 2-4 day period.
 

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UsefulPlayer 1 said:
I don't know how you're gonna get $40 back but good luck to you.
tilmoph said:
Ok, this thread is 4 pages long, and I'm still lost on something; how are you getting $40 on a resale? I mean, if the game was really good and had lots of demand, sure, maybe. Like at least a 4/10 chance of pulling that off. But for a meh game that everyone knows is meh, who the hell is paying $40 for it? Especially if quite a few other people are doing the same thing after a 2-4 day period.
Up to $46 currently:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Order-1886-Sony-PlayStation-4-/261786334887?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cf3ae76a7
 

Whitbane

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The Order 1886 is absolute dogshit and trying to defend the selling price is delusional. Gone Home was more of a game.
 

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Whitbane said:
The Order 1886 is absolute dogshit and trying to defend the selling price is delusional. Gone Home was more of a game.
Calling a game that you never played dogshit is pretty asinine. There's no such thing as more of a game, every game is 100% of a game. The thread isn't about The Order, it's about any game regardless if it's 5 hours or 100 hours.
 

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Up to $46 currently:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Order-1886-Sony-PlayStation-4-/261786334887?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cf3ae76a7

... Holy hell! Never thought people were that crazy. 3 bids even! Welp, guess that answers my question.
 

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I've got a feeling this game is going to drop value quickly as it gets traded in by those who did buy it.

I already said to someone flippantly "when I see it for 18.86, then I'll buy it", but I'm thinking that might be a possibility quicker than I believed.
 

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tilmoph said:
Phoenixmgs said:
Up to $46 currently:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Order-1886-Sony-PlayStation-4-/261786334887?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cf3ae76a7

... Holy hell! Never thought people were that crazy. 3 bids even! Welp, guess that answers my question.
That's why GameStop gets away with selling used copies for $5 below retail because people will pay. eBay is so great because the seller doesn't get ripped off and the buyer doesn't have to pay GameStop prices.
 

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Whitbane said:
The Order 1886 is absolute dogshit and trying to defend the selling price is delusional. Gone Home was more of a game.
Calling a game that you never played dogshit is pretty asinine. There's no such thing as more of a game, every game is 100% of a game. The thread isn't about The Order, it's about any game regardless if it's 5 hours or 100 hours.
You used The Order as an example in your first post, so I just responded to your question. If the game was 5 hours of the greatest gameplay to ever exist, randomized dozens of times to enable re-playability, then yeah it would be worth $60. But as it stands, it's 3 hours of cutscenes, and 2 hours of boring, generic walk-and-shoot seen in hundreds of other games.

Length doesn't signify whether a game is worth money, and hundreds of hours of awfulness doesn't mean a game is worth 60 bucks.

Plus, you don't need to play a game to know that it's awful.
 

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Phoenixmgs said:
UsefulPlayer 1 said:
I don't know how you're gonna get $40 back but good luck to you.
tilmoph said:
Ok, this thread is 4 pages long, and I'm still lost on something; how are you getting $40 on a resale? I mean, if the game was really good and had lots of demand, sure, maybe. Like at least a 4/10 chance of pulling that off. But for a meh game that everyone knows is meh, who the hell is paying $40 for it? Especially if quite a few other people are doing the same thing after a 2-4 day period.
Up to $46 currently:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Order-1886-Sony-PlayStation-4-/261786334887?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cf3ae76a7
That's a game that came out YESTERDAY. The game came out on the 20th, literally a day ago and in a day it's already lost 25% of its value. You can still rent it for less. There was no point in buying it to resell less than a week later.

For all the times you've said in this thread that this isn't about The Order 1886 and that you're using it as a worst case scenario you're really pushing to use it in every single one of your examples.

Since you've claimed that you can get $40 for a game MONTHS after its release lets see you put your money where your mouth is. Show me an ebay bid for $40 for a mediocre game 3 months after its release.
 

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Dirty Hipsters said:
Phoenixmgs said:
Up to $46 currently:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Order-1886-Sony-PlayStation-4-/261786334887?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cf3ae76a7
That's a game that came out YESTERDAY. The game came out on the 20th, literally a day ago and in a day it's already lost 25% of its value. You can still rent it for less. There was no point in buying it to resell less than a week later.

For all the times you've said in this thread that this isn't about The Order 1886 and that you're using it as a worst case scenario you're really pushing to use it in every single one of your examples.

Since you've claimed that you can get $40 for a game MONTHS after its release lets see you put your money where your mouth is. Show me an ebay bid for $40 for a mediocre game 3 months after its release.
Funny enough, I did a bunch of "research" and did exactly that before I realized that we're not being listened to anyway so why bother. What I found was that most 3 month games (I used Assassins Creed, Halo Master Chief Edition, and Dragon Age Inquisition when I looked; all three were released in November); you know what I found?

Most of them were still (relatively) up there. All of them were around $30 on both eBay and Amazon (keep in mind that this does NOT include the cut that the companies take and does NOT include the cost to ship/box). This was for both PS4 and Xbox One (I did not look at current gen) with slight variations but for the most part, you're looking at $30 a game 3 months down the road.

So take this info however you want; I obviously disagree with the OP (as I stated on page 1) but these are the figures I saw.

EDIT: F it; here are the numbers taken right from Amazon right now because I have nothing better to do than to redo it :D

AC: Unity: PS4 $28 Xbox One $17
Master Chief Collection: Xbox One $32
DA: Inquisition: PS4 $30 Xbox One $32

I'm not going to do eBay again because that takes a lot longer to look through but I assure you that the numbers were relatively close to Amazons
 

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Whitbane said:
But as it stands, it's 3 hours of cutscenes, and 2 hours of boring, generic walk-and-shoot seen in hundreds of other games.

Plus, you don't need to play a game to know that it's awful.
Some people like cutscenes and a game that's cinematic, which is why games like Heavy Rain, Telltale games, etc. exist. Boring, generic, etc. are subjective. Jim Sterling called Vanquish boring.

Yeah, you don't have to play a game to know it's awful like E.T., Superman, Ride to Hell, etc. but The Order is not nearly close to those games at all.

Dirty Hipsters said:
That's a game that came out YESTERDAY. The game came out on the 20th, literally a day ago and in a day it's already lost 25% of its value. You can still rent it for less. There was no point in buying it to resell less than a week later.

For all the times you've said in this thread that this isn't about The Order 1886 and that you're using it as a worst case scenario you're really pushing to use it in every single one of your examples.

Since you've claimed that you can get $40 for a game MONTHS after its release lets see you put your money where your mouth is. Show me an ebay bid for $40 for a mediocre game 3 months after its release.
1) The auction isn't over and it's USED copy, not a new copy. New sells for more $$$.

2) I've never had a game just for a weekend. I might end up selling The Order after a few days, but I don't know that going in. Plus, rental options these days are rather limited, there's only Red Box and GameFly available for me I think.

3) The Order is conceivably the worst possible scenario with regards to buying a game (with it being so short and story driven), that's why it was used as an example.

4) I said 2-3 months so 2 months for sure. Even a game like Watch Dogs had plenty of value months later, I know because I sold it. The message board game community is only a small portion of the game community so how people feel about a game on the boards (here or other places) is not always the general feeling among the entirety of the gaming community, your potential buys/customers.
 

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tippy2k2 said:
AC: Unity: PS4 $28 Xbox One $17
Master Chief Collection: Xbox One $32
DA: Inquisition: PS4 $30 Xbox One $32

I'm not going to do eBay again because that takes a lot longer to look through but I assure you that the numbers were relatively close to Amazons
Dragon Age at $31 with an hour left:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dragon-Age-Inquisition-Sony-PlayStation-4-2014-/191515474615?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c97363ab7

I think it'll at least get to $35.