Do people still call metal satian music?

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swolf

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I knew some religious people who still called it that. They claimed that K.I.S.S stood for "Knights In Satan's Service" and that "AC\DC" stood for Anti-Christ Devil Children. Though that was about 2 or 3 years ago. I'm sure that some people still do though.
 

Nieroshai

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Listen to this and tell me if Metal sounds like this.
http://www.myspace.com/aramsatyan

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EDIT: I'd like to mention that I'm a Christian that listens to Metal, and know lots who do. It all depends on the age of the Christian and whether or not they've actually tried listening to non-satannic Metal. Also, ironically there is a Christian Metal group that's surprisingly good and even has a pretty large secular audience: Demon Hunter. Of course, being on the Resident Evil: Apocalypse soundtrack is a low point IMO, and you never even hear the song if you aren't the type that watches the credits of a movie all the way through.
 

ReservoirAngel

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Yes. My friend's parents for one. Then again they don't let him play video games at all for fear he'll go insane and go on a murder spree.

They're just hyper-conservative paranoid nutjobs.
 

Mr.Squishy

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Living in Norway, a country famed for our black metal(which tends to be satanic or norse in nature), I have grown up with quite a few people saying it is the music of the devil. Mostly old people.
 

Nieroshai

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ReservoirAngel said:
Yes. My friend's parents for one. Then again they don't let him play video games at all for fear he'll go insane and go on a murder spree.

They're just hyper-conservative paranoid nutjobs.
Hyper-conservative(word used for VERY far right wing)= Anarchist(wanting government to go away rather than just provide security like libertarians want or mostly avoid hindering the people like Conservatives/Republicans want).
What you mean by "hyper-conservative" = "future shock."
I don't mean to nitpick and know what you mean, I'm just anal about using words that actually mean the idea one is trying to convey. Like "fornication" meant "prostitution" back in the first century AD, not "sex in general." Not calling you out, just using you as a vehicle of thought. I apologize if I offend.

EDIT: DAMN YOU OCD!!!
 

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I'm just astounded at the fact there are WANNABE satanist bands -.- and because of said wannabes, a lot of people now think an upside-down cross is an anti-christian thing when it's actually showing humility before god -.-

Erm, that aside yes, I've heard my fair share of religious zealots call what I listen to "Evil" and the "Work of the devil" but I don't think the EXACT term "Satan music" has ever come up.
 

Mr.France

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Most regretably yes. I've got an aunt who said to my face that all metalheads are satanists more than once (I'm a metalhead and she knows it) and I tried to explain more than once that this viewpoint is fucking meideval, didn't work, that is sad.
 

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SL33TBL1ND said:
Lilani said:
I'm sure a few do. They're probably the same ones who think Harry Potter and the Golden Compass are products of the devil meant to corrupt our children.
What does that have to do with Satian?
Ah, only now I see the kind of person I'm dealing with. I'll be sure to be wary of you and your incredible spelling powers from now on.
 

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Metal as a genra, has nothing to do with Satan. Its all down to each artist/band weather or not to inclued the devil into the music.
 

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Outright Villainy said:
AdmiralMemo said:
On the other hand, Golden Compass... It's like Narnia meets Harry Potter, but it's just bad... Not like evil... Just poorly-done. (Can you tell I'm not a fan?)
I take it you're basing this on the film, and not the books?

Aside from the fact that the books don't suck, much unlike the film, the later books get into areas that would be decidedly non christian; a major part of the third book involves some of the heroes trying to kill God.

OT: If someone says the music I listen to is Devil music I'll tell them they've found out my secret, and unfortunately I now have to use them in my blood ritual.
Heh... Yeah... Didn't know there were books, too, before this thread.
So the movie is bad (poorly-done) and the books are bad (evil)...
I might still read the books one day, just for kicks.
 

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AdmiralMemo said:
Outright Villainy said:
AdmiralMemo said:
On the other hand, Golden Compass... It's like Narnia meets Harry Potter, but it's just bad... Not like evil... Just poorly-done. (Can you tell I'm not a fan?)
I take it you're basing this on the film, and not the books?

Aside from the fact that the books don't suck, much unlike the film, the later books get into areas that would be decidedly non christian; a major part of the third book involves some of the heroes trying to kill God.

OT: If someone says the music I listen to is Devil music I'll tell them they've found out my secret, and unfortunately I now have to use them in my blood ritual.
Heh... Yeah... Didn't know there were books, too, before this thread.
So the movie is bad (poorly-done) and the books are bad (evil)...
I might still read the books one day, just for kicks.
Well they're not evil, at all, they're just really unchristian.
 

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AdmiralMemo said:
DarthFennec said:
I think Potter is as Christian as Narnia is really. Well, Narnia is a biblical allegory and Potter isn't, but they are both concerned with very Christan values, and they both have Christian authors, so both equally Christian. And talking animals are just as fictitious as wizardry is. Again, this is just what I see happening, I can see how this could be argued other ways.
We could debate whether J.K. Rowling is Christian or not, but I'm not going to right now.
The main thing is that:
1. I haven't read any Harry Potter books myself. I'd like to some day, though.
2. I've only watched bits and pieces of the movies.
3. I know Harry Potter mainly from reading stuff online and from friends who are die-hard Pot-heads. Just through osmosis from them, I could give you the run-down of the plot from every book.
DarthFennec said:
AdmiralMemo said:
But most people who disagree with [Potter] are the ones who can't differentiate fiction from reality.
Yeah well the idea that any kind of music is evil is a pretty fictitious concept if you ask me. The fact that they actually believe that means that they can't differentiate fiction to reality. So wouldn't it be the same people?
Pretty much. I'm not going to say anything is wrong with reading Harry Potter, because it's fiction. Waving a wand around and saying "Avada Kedavra" isn't going to actually kill anyone. Actually, I'd like to see someone try, just so I could laugh at them.
Music is just a tool, just like a knife or the Internet. The music itself is neutral. Only the way you use it really defines its morality.
To me, what makes the music "Christian" or not is the lyrics. You have lyrics praising Jesus? Christian Rock. You have secular lyrics? Regular Rock.
This brings me to another point I've always wondered: why is it there only seem to be two types of music lyrics out there? You hear of Rock and Christian Rock, Rap and Christian Rap, Punk and Christian Punk, etc. Why don't you ever hear of Buddhist Rock, or Jewish Punk, or Muslim Rap? Aren't people of those and other faiths interested in contemporary music?
Poptart Invasion said:
but back on audio adrenaline, i have to respect them not just for being cool, level-headed guys, but for actually sticking to their genre through their success.
I've got to respect them, not only for sticking to it through their success, but also through their hardship. Even though "Audio Adrenaline" has been gone since 2007, they've continued with "Audio Unplugged" for a bit. I went to one of those and it was quite insightful to hear about the lead singer, Mark Stuart, and how he had to go through not only a divorce, but also through the fact that he in essence blew out his voice through singing so much. He was having vocal trouble starting in 2005 and in 2006, his doctor laid down the gauntlet: "You can do one more tour, and that's it. Anything more, and you won't be able to talk, much less sing." That must have been hard to hear, since singing was his life and love.

Another band with similar success is Jars of Clay. Several of their songs have made hits on the mainstream circuit, but that's never stopped their conviction.
Poptart Invasion said:
it sucks seeing people supporting a band just for them to stab their original fan-base in the back by denouncing god and making mainstream music with little or no connection to christianity. im looking at you, evanesence and creed.
Want to look at a true sellout? Look at freaking Katy Perry. She even changed her name to sell out to the mainstream crowd. Check out her first CD [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katy_Hudson_(album)].
lol sorry for that quite being sooooo damn long. was going to abridge it a bit, but then i saw the pre-post text form and its waaay too much to sort through. for me anyway.

but i didnt know that about audio adrenaline. makes me respect them more. thats one thing about truly christ-like christians, you CANNOT say they arent dedicated.

and thats cool about jars of clay. i should of added that i didnt mean that as a blanket statement for every christian band that makes a mainstream splash. reliant k and demon hunter more than prove that wrong.

as for katy perry, i had no earthly idea whatsoever. that kinda sucks, because i kinda like some of her music, like i used to enjoy evanecense. now thatll be impossible since ever time i hear her or amy lee, il just be thinking "you worthless, manipulating *****".
lol thanks for ruining another artist for me, AdmiralMemo. ;p
 

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I've just heared people call rock satan music... Which, I find very ironic with all these "christian rock bands" floating around... I mean, how can they play christian satan music?
 

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SoulSalmon said:
I'm just astounded at the fact there are WANNABE satanist bands -.- and because of said wannabes, a lot of people now think an upside-down cross is an anti-christian thing when it's actually showing humility before god -.-

Erm, that aside yes, I've heard my fair share of religious zealots call what I listen to "Evil" and the "Work of the devil" but I don't think the EXACT term "Satan music" has ever come up.
i cant speak to modern bands like cradle of filth (il say! that name is right on the money!), but back in the day, if they werent really satanic, they may have done it for shock value, like kiss did with their make-up and armor. or like dio, they may have just thought it seemed badass, and a great source of inspiration, somewhat similar to how john milton viewed satan (who, and i may be wrong, i think was also accused of satanism, or at least blasphemy). let me also note that if i were god, id have a special circle of hell carved out specifically for those worthless shits of westboro baptist church, not just for protesting the funeral of my idol, but for protesting ANY funeral (let alone those of gays and soldiers, WHO HAVE TO PUT UP WITH ENOUGH SHIT AREADY!!!) but now im getting off track.

others still, just did it for shits and giggles, like iron maiden. im not enough of a buff to really know where they were getting those poos and snickers, whether it was every bit as innocent and silly as having your friend pull your finger, or if they knew exactly the kind of controversy it would stir and found it funny that so many people would be so worked up over something so pointless. but one way or the other, turds and chortles.
 

Mr.Incognitus

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It really seems to be a phase, most things in media seem to have at one point or another come under criticism for being satanic and/or corrupting the minds of children
 

milkkart

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yes, mostly by stupid teenagers trying to piss off their parents and religous types with severely bunched panties.

admiralmemno said:
why is it there only seem to be two types of music lyrics out there? You hear of Rock and Christian Rock, Rap and Christian Rap, Punk and Christian Punk, etc. Why don't you ever hear of Buddhist Rock, or Jewish Punk, or Muslim Rap? Aren't people of those and other faiths interested in contemporary music?
no they just realise how lame christian music is and don't want to make fools of themselves. christian metal sucks major balls, you just can't sound good screaming about how much you love christ.
 

PhiMed

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Nobody listens to metal anymore, so it's not a threat to anyone. I'm sure they would be upset about it if it was popular.

But Satan is at least two "threats to our children" ago.

Metal was replaced by *apprehensive look*. The blacks.

Who were subsequently replaced by The gays!
 

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PhiMed said:
Nobody listens to metal anymore
nobody listens to the shitty fad metal anymore, bands whose fans were into them for something other than them being the next big thing still have their fans.
 

Mr.Incognitus

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milkkart said:
nobody listens to the shitty fad metal anymore, bands whose fans were into them for something other than them being the next big thing still have their fans.
People still listen to those bands, sadly.