Do the Devil May Cry fans have a right to complain about the new DMC?

[rogue_salty]

I don't actually know what GRRM is.

Regardless of whether or not the existing DMC fans like the look of the new game, Capcom obviously believe that it can make money, hence why they are making it. No game is made if people don't think money can be made from it. But to take that further and expand on what I originally said, fans have no claim of ownership towards games. It's the same towards films, music, basically any entertainment industry. At the end of the day, the decisions lie with the people making the product in question. If they want to listen to fans, they obviously have every right, but if they choose to completely disregard them then that is also their prerogative. If the game (to keep this on a single topic) changes drastically, then it is likely to gain a lot of new fans, who will replace (financially) the fans of how the game used to be.

So yes, fans have every right to complain, but they shouldn't be too surprised if their complaints go unheeded.

company's could make mistakes u know,capcom made a couple of them the biggest one is that they toke a chance with one of there biggest franchises,i mean what did ninja theory do to make capcom believe they can do a better job than they did(capcom),what i think happen and this is totally theoretical, capcom didnt have devil may cry on there agenda for at least 3 years so they though whats the worst that could happen, ninja theory thought its our time to shine,make a whole new game with our ideas and what we think is cool but with DMC's name on it that will work, but they didnt expect the reaction when the first trailer came out(i have never such hate on youtube),that's when capcom steped in,thats why they brought back the white hair and the sword in the second trailer, that didn't work because it still dosnt feel or look like devil may cry

 

[Kekkles]

For a haircut change... Seriously!? I think he looks better like this, less pretentious. And yes, I am a fan of Devil May Cry!

 

[Stalydan]

damn that's a wall of text.

Well...i Did want to explain why the fans were pissed off a bit more thoroughly.

No, because they're still going to write disgusting fan fiction, regardless of his looks.

*shudder*

Isn't that true of...Every franchise in existence though? Name one series that DOESN'T have a horrible piece of fanfiction attatched to it.

Rule 34 my friend. If it exists, there's pornography of it

 

[Simeon Ivanov]

Yeah, sorry but when I hear "Devil May Cry" I wanna play as the jolly demon hunter Dante. If you like the new guy, good for you, but can you, with a straight face, say that this black haired emo is better than our white-haired Dante.


If you said "yes", then I am currently thinking about how to slap you in the face.


Also, to the OP: "Bravo dude, I couldn't have said it better myself"

 

[RidetheLightning]

Moviebob briefly explained the out of place aesthetic of this new so called DMC in his Game Overthinker episode 41 on Screwattack. Start watching the video below at 5 min 46 seconds and Moviebob explains the reason for this new Devil may Cry imitation. He rightly explains that its because of Gamers using stores like Gamestop to buy games they think might not be good Used and only buying games New if there already proven franchises and since publishers only make money when gamers buy games New its hampering innovation. This new Dmc is an example of an idea that has been shoe horned into established franchise where it doesn't belong rather then being made into its own game. To all you devil may cry fans out there WHY IS THIS WEIRD MID 90S PUNK ROCK LOOKING THING THATS KIND OF SIMILAR TO DEVIL MAY CRY BEING RELEASED AS DEVIL MAY CRY? BECAUSE DEVIL MAY CRY WILL SELL NEW COPIES THE FIRST WEEK WHILE IP SIMILAR TO DEVIL MAY CRY WILL GET BROUGHT USED AT GAMESTOP A FEW WEEKS LATER.

http://screwattack.com/videos/TGO-Episode-41-The-Revolution

 

[Valdus]

I hate it just because it looks like some emo crap with the DMC name. That's my problem - if you want to use IP, use it, if not grow some balls and make something original. "Reboots" or "Remakes" that barely resemble the original stuff and don't look any better are just...awful.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

Well the new Dante looks like my evil ex boyfriend so yeah I'm not very happy.

Give me old 'happy Dante eating pizza while killing bad guys' any day. If you most pictures of Dante he is smiling (or smirking) at least. Why do we have to exchange him with misery guts.

I think fans have a right to complain, I mean freedom of speech and all that.

Slightly offtopic, I think the poor sales of Enslaved were due to poor advertising, the first I heard of it was when I watched Yahtzee's review... It looks like the same might happen to them with DMC if they don't start promoting it a bit more.

I laughed at that picture with the angels. Golden lycra hotpants! I don't remember reading about those in the bible. xD

 

[Samurai Silhouette]

I guess the fanboys feel they are taken out of the experience because they can't identify with something that doesn't look like a girl, or an emo teenager. But seriouisly, this redesign is bad ass. I take it because they milked the DMC franchise so much out of their fanbase, they're catering to a new demographic, such as my self. AAAAAAANNNNNNND it's not like the fanboys aren't going to buy it anyways. Do want.

 

[Nomanslander]

Honestly, I think if they had just kept the silver hair people wouldn't have complained so much. The series and it's story were shallow as hell to begin with, so much so that some hair dye can make so much of a difference...lol

 

[Lt_Bromhead]

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YOU, sir....

I actually want to marry you.

You've said everything about DMC that I wish I was usually sober enough to write down.

Thank you........

 

[Cheery Lunatic]

Ugh, I think the reboot has promise, AND I've played all four games of the Devil May Cry series.
I admit, when I first saw the reveal trailer I was pretty pissed, but I came to like it.

I forgot where I saw the picture, but I saw one where they compared DmC Dante to the other Dante. DmC Dante has almost the EXACT same bone structure as every other Dante. Plus, he's been living on the street since his mother (and supposedly Vergil at the time) died. He's not gonna look well fed OR nourished (and judging by the reveal trailer, he's also being tortured). DmC Dante LOOKS like a guy living on the street who doesn't give a rat's ass about his appearance.

Of course he's not gonna be some jokester after witnessing his mother dying. That just doesn't fucking happen. That's not saying he WON'T grow up to be the Dante we know in DMC 1 and 3. It's just showing the journey to that time period. A lot of teenagers go through a rebellious and angry stage before finally settling in.

As for the hair change (I commend you for not focusing too much on that though), it can easily be explained by hair dye. Demons are on the look out for him, white hair is obviously gonna stick out a tad bit. AND if you've watched the latest trailers, his hair HAS turned white while fighting.

As for the angel thing, I'll admit, I was also thrown by the change. I'm not sure what to make of it except to say that it is a pretty big retcon. The only way I can sort-of explain it is if Eva became a "fallen angel" after falling in love with Sparda, and thus was cast down from being an angel and became a human. I honestly really wish that Capcom will let DmC be considered a reboot instead of a prequel just for the sake of not being bogged down by continuity (though the series in general doesn't really give a rat's ass about continuity at times though). But I mean, who actually PLAYED any of the past DMC's for the story? Honestly? The writing was atrocious and the story was merely a driving force for moving the gameplay forward.

Also, it's completely unfair to compare inFamous 2's Cole character change to DmC's character change. Sucker Punch CHANGED Cole's appearance because everyone and their mother whined about his gravel in a bucket voice and his near-skinhead appearance. Sucker Punch MADE the change because they thought people would like it. They were completely shocked by the negative backlash the change had and changed it back BECAUSE they made the change in the first place to cater to fans.
For DmC, Ninja Theory initially came up with designs more similar to the original Dante, but CAPCOM (that's right CAPCOM) was the one that shot them down and kept insisting that the character change be even bigger, more drastic. They KNEW there was gonna be a shitstorm about the design change but went ahead with it anyway.

And just FYI (because I see so many people always saying this) the character design is PUNK. Not EMO. PUNK. Get your stereotypes right people. Take a good look at the Sex Pistols and then take a look at DmC Dante. The similarities are OBVIOUS.

Plus, it's not the character that matters the most with Devil May Cry (a GAME), it's the gameplay.
And judging from the trailers, it looks perfectly fine. Ninja Theory is famous for its story-telling prowess, so if they can keep the gameplay of DmC at the same level of previous games of the series, they'll probably improve the shit writing and give an actual story (gasp!) so in all honesty there is a good chance of success.

And for anyone who's like "I WON'T BUY THE GAME THEN DURHURHUR I'LL SHOW CAPCOM. THAT WAY THEY'LL HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE -ORIGINAL- DMC", you're an idiot. As shown with Megaman, Capcom will just throw its hands in the air and just throw Devil May Cry and any future sequels into a trash can, regardless of what fans want. Rent the game, and then send angry emails to Capcom. That way it'll show that you actually KNOW what you're talking about.

Fuck, I told myself I wouldn't type a lot, but I ended up doing it anyway.
I'm not saying people aren't allowed to dislike the game, I think they're are people arbitrarily hating on it without giving it a chance, which really isn't fair (at all).
We should wait till it's released, see EXACTLY how Dante's changed (and how he changes throughout the game), see if the gameplay can live up to that of the rest of the series, and then make our catcalls and angry denouncements.

Okay, Cheery out.

 

[Twilight_guy]

Fans have a right to complain, companies have a right to ignore them. No matter how hard you *****, the company still owns the game and turn gold into shit if they want while laughing the whole way.

 

[rogue_salty]

Fans have a right to complain, companies have a right to ignore them. No matter how hard you *****, the company still owns the game and turn gold into shit if they want while laughing the whole way.

they wont be laughing,if NT fucks this up that's it for them im amazed there not broke already

 

[Gorilla Gunk]

I saw that huge wall of text and I just became embarrassed for the OP.

I mean, what is it like? Being that attached to a completely fictional character? It can't be healthy.

 

[Infernai]

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YOU, sir....

I actually want to marry you.

You've said everything about DMC that I wish I was usually sober enough to write down.

Thank you........

Not a problem *bows graciously*

I saw that huge wall of text and I just became embarrassed for the OP.

I mean, what is it like? Being that attached to a completely fictional character? It can't be healthy.

Oh, i'm quite level headed and sane...I mean, just cause i see a lepracaun that tells me to burn down buildings doesn't mean i'm mentally unhealthy thank you very much! [/joke]

 

[Lunar Templar]

a wall of text to put the fear of god, into god

totally agree, and ya know what, TN is right, I DO WANT to like this, but they've provided me no reason to, tiss sad to, Devil May Cry has, been, a release i could count on to be fun, and while it COULD still be both good and fun, I've no desire to give these people money for insulting the people who will ultimately decide weather or not they still have a job after this.

so yes, we do have the right to complain, but my protest will be with my wallet, where some difference can be made, not on a forum, where it wont matter, since they have no intent of listening.

at worst, DMC will go the way of Breath of Fire after Dragon Quarter, IE no more games (most likely) at best, they'll give the game to a dev team that doesn't have beef with the series and its fans (possible but not gonna hold my breath)

 

[Nieroshai]

I'm still holding out for this being a prequel. I have a feeling the whole angel thing will either be explained away through "well that's his humanity overriding teh ebil" or dropped. I hope it gets dropped, because it sounds like it'd take the player the route of Dante's Inferno. Either way, I'll wait for a review, then try it out.

 

[Ghengis John]

I'm still holding out for this being a prequel..

Eh I'm with you. The Dante thousands of people know and love is the Dante available in MVC3. The world has enough gloomy, gory anti-heroes. I really like the guy who wise cracks, hangs out with babes and throws pizza parties. I can't really think of another hero not possessing a shell who does the same and he brings a feel good gaming experience. I'm hoping that this guy somehow gives way to the old dante and not that the entire franchise is getting a reboot.

Alternately wouldn't it be weird if they decided to run multiple DMC universes at once ala marvel comics?

 

[rogue_salty]

For a haircut change... Seriously!? I think he looks better like this, less pretentious. And yes, I am a fan of Devil May Cry!

after all the hard work Infernai did to explain why we hate the knew DmC, this what u came up with ur either blinde or dumb, and no ur are not a DMC fan ur a NT fan u made that clear.u guys are just embarrassing ur self's now.