Do you believe in luck?
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Meh, I don't think that it exists as a force in the universe, more of just a term we use when things do or don't go our way.
I don't believe in luck. It is there, in the form of chance. Sometimes you'll be lucky, sometimes (often) not. But it has nothing to do with anything supernatural.
Luck? No, I don't believe in it. There's a logical explanation for everything and luck is never one of them.
Advertising? It's pretty cheesy.I Have No Idea said:
Fair enough, but it could just as well be a clever advertiser. Like I said, it's pretty cheesy.Hexenwolf said:
Not in the sense that certain events occurred just because I wished it. It's all random chance, but I can't think of a better term for when random chance happens to lean in my favor.
Luck's the word that you give to events that have seemingly no logical cause. Like, for example, why do I always get involved in somebody's life at the exact moment where I can catch them as they fall? I don't arrive early enough to be the cause of problems, and it's by no backtracking of my own. My arrival just happens to coincide with major life problems that just so happened to fall within my area of expertise.Dr. Pepper Unlimited said:
At least, that's why I'd call me lucky.
You mean random things happening indiscriminately for no reason?
Ummm, I don't have to believe in luck, or chance since it's there, it's obvious, it's a natural, logical and probable event.
I don't know what you're religious affiliations might be, but saying that the concept of luck does not fit with that religions view of the world is like saying the same for rocks. Or gravity!? They just shouldn't necessitate believe in the first place.
And if your religion can't fit a tangible everyday phenomena like rocks, gravity or in this case Luck, then there is something really wrong in either your understanding of it or in the religion itself.
Ummm, I don't have to believe in luck, or chance since it's there, it's obvious, it's a natural, logical and probable event.
I don't know what you're religious affiliations might be, but saying that the concept of luck does not fit with that religions view of the world is like saying the same for rocks. Or gravity!? They just shouldn't necessitate believe in the first place.
And if your religion can't fit a tangible everyday phenomena like rocks, gravity or in this case Luck, then there is something really wrong in either your understanding of it or in the religion itself.
You're goddamn right I believe in luck. At least, I believe in the reverse, bad luck. I've seen waaaayyyy too many people who have it not to believe in it. And in the interest of my sanity, I must believe that just as many people have good luck as have bad, although I've only met one such person(lucky bastard). 
If he believes in predetermination, then luck would not fit into his religious context. I believe some religions do this, Calvinism I think, and I think one of the far eastern religions as well, but I'm not really sure.UnknownGunslinger said:
Also, did you really just say that not believing in luck is like not believing in rocks? That analogy is an inclined plane wrapped helically around a pole.
In what way is my analogy screwedspartan231490 said:
I'm not familiar with many religious denomination but even those that support predeterminism can't possibly make the claim that it extends to a point that excludes completely any possibility of luck events. Can they?
It just seems like it would be an logistical nightmare for any deity.
And I do think that the concept of chance events is self evident enough as to be equal in validity as much as the existence of rocks is.
It's one of those things that will simply continue to exist no matter if you believe in them or not.
UnknownGunslinger said:In what way is my analogy screwedspartan231490 said:
I'm not familiar with many religious denomination but even those that support predeterminism can't possibly make the claim that it extends to a point that excludes completely any possibility of luck events.
Can they? It just seems it would be an logistical nightmare for any deity.
And I do think that the concept of chance events is self evident enough as to be equal in validity as much as the existence of rocks is.
It's one of those things that will simply continue to exist no matter if you believe in them or not.
Glad you liked that turn-of-phrase. It's from an episode of Big Bang Theory and I absolutely love it.
If you believe that the future is predetermined, then anything that we see as chance is simply the appearance of chance, since the outcome was determined before the event even took place, therefore there was no possibility other than what occurred. And that is a valid philosophical view(I only think that it's religious, I'm not certain). matter of fact, in a way it is a scientific view, since the belief exists that if you know the location and velocity of every particle in the universe(we can't do this for even one particle at present), then you would be able to predict the future exactly. I don't really ascribe to this, but there you go.
As it is a valid postulation, so you can't compare it to something that is invalid, such as believing that rocks, or gravity, don't exist. They only seem comparable at first, but truthfully, the appearance of chance could easily be fabricated. You can line up a deck of cards in a known order that appears random, and make everyone else believe it was "luck" even when it wasn't. Look at trick shuffling, significantly more difficult, but the same overall idea.