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y8c616 said:
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I didn't care before I got a XBox 360, but now they're sort of a requirement for me, which is unfortunate.. I just can't appreciate some games the same as I used to.
If you care that much about graphics, then why get a 360? It's a well known fact that the ps3 has superior graphical capabilities
Why buy a PS3 when you could build your own gaming PC? Not even the PS3 can stand up to the "PC gaming master race".
 

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TMAN10112 said:
y8c616 said:
Aqualung said:
I didn't care before I got a XBox 360, but now they're sort of a requirement for me, which is unfortunate.. I just can't appreciate some games the same as I used to.
If you care that much about graphics, then why get a 360? It's a well known fact that the ps3 has superior graphical capabilities
Why buy a PS3 when you could build your own gaming PC (Crysis for the win!)? Not even the PS3 can stand up to the "PC gaming master race".
Because I built a pretty sweet computer for a little more than $600, but I had the keyboard, monitor, mouse, and speakers already. And the computer I want to build from scratch, well, anyone want to give me $3,300?
 

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Also, I suppose the graphics of the era when you started playing games probably has something to do with whether you're a graphics whore or not. I mean, we had some ultra shitty football game on our Apple IIe which was almost entirely text based. I loved Centipede. If you started playing games that had little to no graphical enhancement, it's probably easier to enjoy a game regardless of the graphics.
 

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CapnGod said:
TMAN10112 said:
y8c616 said:
Aqualung said:
I didn't care before I got a XBox 360, but now they're sort of a requirement for me, which is unfortunate.. I just can't appreciate some games the same as I used to.
If you care that much about graphics, then why get a 360? It's a well known fact that the ps3 has superior graphical capabilities
Why buy a PS3 when you could build your own gaming PC (Crysis for the win!)? Not even the PS3 can stand up to the "PC gaming master race".
Because I built a pretty sweet computer for a little more than $600, but I had the keyboard, monitor, mouse, and speakers already. And the computer I want to build from scratch, well, anyone want to give me $3,300?
Since when did price become a factor in this discussion? The point I was creating was that the PC is graphically superior to the most advanced console. I assumed that cost wan't a factor.
 

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Good graphics can help, but are not important enough for me to keep playing a game just for the graphics. Best examples are Assassin's Creed and Far Cry 2, they both look stunning but I don't touch them anymore. I also enjoy Simcity 3000 a lot, building a city while listening to those easy jazz tunes, good stuff.

But one of the best examples of a "graphics don't matter" game must be Dwarven Fortress. That game is insanely detailed (down to the molecular information of materials used for, for example, making weapons) but in basic it uses graphics based on text. You can upgrade to spreadsheat, 16-bit (I think) graphics, but dámn that game is amazing (too amazing for me actually). To quote someone playing it:
To be perfectly honest, i'm glad, in a way, that the game doesn't have much better graphics, i have less than 100 Dwarfs and its using 25-30% of my Q6600, its pretty damn hefty.
 

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graphical design is better than powerful graphics in my opinion. Style and presentation trumps photo-realism in my opinion. But it is nice to see games that are pushing photo-realism, as long as the gameplay is still good.

Gameplay always comes first. Graphics can make a good game great, or a good game merely tolerable.
 

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I really prefer a good looking game with average story to a crap looking game with really good story. Seeing as sight is one of our most used sensory organs graphics make up a huge part of a game. It can enhance the story or just make it look stupid. So good graphics= A+
 

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quite frankly, as long as the graphics dont make the game unplayable, like u cant tell whats what, then im fine wit it
 

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y8c616 said:
Aqualung said:
I didn't care before I got a XBox 360, but now they're sort of a requirement for me, which is unfortunate.. I just can't appreciate some games the same as I used to.
If you care that much about graphics, then why get a 360? It's a well known fact that the ps3 has superior graphical capabilities.
And dont mistake my post as mere flaming against the 360, it's a good console, with some great games. I am merely pointing out technical specifications
Because my brother paid for the XBox 360, it's his preference. We had the first XBox before that, too. And I honestly can't see the difference between the graphics of the same game on XBox or PS3; same thing with regular TV and HD TV. It just looks the same to me, and I don't really care THAT much.

..Or maybe I just need a bigger TV..
 

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Care about, yes. Exclusively, no. Graphics need to be at least presentable, but if a game is just brilliant, I'll enjoy even a graphically poor game - for example, Anachronox (uses the Quake 2 engine, I think), the old Fallout games, and GTA:SA, although I'm finding GTA:SA more and more difficult to play as my eyes seem to ache when I watch that old engine.
 

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Aqualung said:
y8c616 said:
Aqualung said:
I didn't care before I got a XBox 360, but now they're sort of a requirement for me, which is unfortunate.. I just can't appreciate some games the same as I used to.
If you care that much about graphics, then why get a 360? It's a well known fact that the ps3 has superior graphical capabilities.
And dont mistake my post as mere flaming against the 360, it's a good console, with some great games. I am merely pointing out technical specifications
Because my brother paid for the XBox 360, it's his preference. We had the first XBox before that, too. And I honestly can't see the difference between the graphics of the same game on XBox or PS3; same thing with regular TV and HD TV. It just looks the same to me, and I don't really care THAT much.

..Or maybe I just need a bigger TV..
Well with multiformat, the graphics are only as good as the least powerful system theyre on (excluding wii and ps2 versions, which apparently are made with different engines etc)
so you wont see a difference there. The best comparison is 2 similar exclusive titles, such as Fornza 2 compared with GT5. The 1st xbox was graphically better to the ps2; they have switched roles this gen. The difference between HD and SD TV's is only really apparent on sets above 32"; any smaller and the difference is inconsequential
 

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As an artist, I am drawn to a game with great graphics first, then I evaluate the game for other characteristics I enjoy.
 

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Godfather 2's graphics make my want to tear my eyes out, but if the game is good overall most people would overlook it.

Godfather's fate is in EA's hands now...
 

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i care more about the presentation than the grapics, like on Okami and Viewtfull joe, great games with great presentation
 

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That's a tough one; my knee-jerk reaction is an emphatic, "No!" but then I think about all those times I was genuinely mesmerized by screenshots and demo-reels and I have to kick myself upon the realization that, "I fell for it." Then again, I feel vindicated by the fact that so far the best-selling game consoles have not been the graphical powerhouses (with the possible exception of the first Playstation and the Dreamcast).

Sometimes, the high graphics are welcome, and there are genres and gameplay styles that genuinely benefit from the technological advancements. Take the Thief series, or any stealth game for that matter, and we'll find that without the breakthrough of dynamic lighting (and the concealing shadows they create), the game would be a totally different experience (probably less fun). It's the same with racing games; Mariokart and Wipeout are great, but when I want the true sensation of speed and power, I'll always turn to Enthusia or even Outrun 2006. RPGs seem to be the only truly 'graphics-proof' genre; Paper Mario is every bit as rich and detailed as any Final Fantasy game despite its deliberately simplistic graphical style.

Graphics will get the games off the shelves (and mostly into the hands of the casual gamers), but it's the gameplay that's going to keep them out of the 'used' bin.
 

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Duh said:
i care more about the presentation than the grapics, like on Okami and Viewtfull joe, great games with great presentation
I'm totally with you on presentation and stylization, and Okami is a great example.
 

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matsugawa said:
Duh said:
i care more about the presentation than the grapics, like on Okami and Viewtfull joe, great games with great presentation
I'm totally with you on presentation and stylization, and Okami is a great example.
everygame that tries to mix things up a bit is a good game by LAW