Do you consider Lilith Aensland fans Lolicons?

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LilithSlave

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Vereth said:
"I can't stand this! I want my real body!"

It implies that she isn't satisfied with the body she has, and wants to grow up or wants to look like Morrigan, which is childish.
I never liked that characterization of her. Because it makes Morrigan more important than her.

But I don't think that reflects her desire to "grow" up, but just to fuse back with Morrigan. She comes off as self hating, when I think she's a worthy character in her own right.;_;

Also, come on, saying you're experiencing something new is not something that makes you a child or even child-like.
 

evilneko

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Lilith isn't loli. >.>

But she does have some delicious flat chest. Mmm~

BTW...

Loli with a gun.

Doesn't look very loli does she? In-'verse she's 12. Which IMO, is loli.

Lulz Yotsuba-chan you so cute.

Not lolis. No really, they aren't. Why don't you believe me? They're in high school!



XD

Now, for the bonus question:
Loli? Or Pettanko?


Pfft don't cheat and look at the filename! D:<

I have a sudden desire for Little Caesars pizza pizza....
 

Rawne1980

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How about I toss in an almighty who the feth cares.

You like something, well done, so do many other people.

We all have things we like.

What I like and what I am is what you seem to dislike in men so we're probably never going to get along or agree on anything though.

But I digress.

What is this fascination on this site to justify things people like?

Who cares if you like an animated succubus? Who cares what people call someone who likes an animated succubus?

Is it going to change your opinion on things you like because folks on ye olde intraweb disagree with something you find .. er .. "stimulating"?

I'd wager, with this being such a diverse forum, that most people here have a fetish or attraction to something that Joe down the road might think is a bit strange.

Me, I have a bit of a "denim fetish". I like women in tight jeans, especially the arse. No idea why I just do. I also like it "rough" (nothing wrong with being handcuffed to a bed ... unless the lass fucks off for a pint and leaves you there, it happened once, I had to break her bed ... ahh fun times).

See, we all like something. Just seems a lot of us really couldn't give 2 fucks what other people think about it.

I just see a lot of "I like this, what do you think" kind of threads and just keep asking myself why. Why the need to ask?

So instead of asking myself because, to be honest, myself is fucking clueless. I thought i'd ask the people.

Why do some folks want to justify or explain why they like something as if our opinion actually matters to them?
 

LilithSlave

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Loop Stricken said:
If you don't like blonde bimbos with bra-busting bazooka blitzkrieg breasts then you're clearly a paedophile. Where have you been?!
I like that post, it's fun.

I don't think I'm a paedophile. And if I thought I was, I'd want to see help immediately. I also don't think I consider myself a lolicon. I am not attracted to children at all, fiction or real. A lot of lolicons say things like "I'm not attracted to real children, just fictional ones." But I'm not attracted to fictional kids, either. It's gross to me, I like maturity. Then again, I guess there are some "lolicons" who "aren't into fictional kids either", I have no idea what the term "lolicon" means anymore because everyone seems to mean something different when they say it. I don't think I am one, though, because I like maturity. Seriously, the idea of violating someone immature is absolutely disgusting. I like someone of my physical and mental level. Not a little girl or someone who seems heavily like one.

But I also like androgyny. It may seem shallow, but I think that's something that drew me in about Lilith. She doesn't have large boobs and I don't like large boobs. I like masculine women who are tall, muscular, and often flat chested(obviously not a must, I like fat women. And men too. Who obviously tend to have breasts. But I'm not into curvaceousness). But that's not the same as being a lolicon.

Not too many adult video game women are very androgynous. So I think part of my psyche latched onto the character because of that.
 

blizzaradragon

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Lilith isn't a loli. Instead, people consider her one because of the other Darkstalkers characters that she gets compared to. It'd be like comparing someone's girlfriend who happens to have smaller breasts and/or look a bit younger to a bunch of Playboy models. By that comparison the girl will look like a loli, but as soon as you start comparing her to actual lolis or even just to random women then she'll seem normal or even hypersexualized.

Also despite what some people are saying, you aren't a hypocrite. Believe it or not, it is possible to enjoy something while still thinking the process as a whole is overdone. To use an example similar to your own that is present in my life: I think that the first person shooter is overdone and is taking our industry in a bad direction, yet I really enjoy playing the Halo games. Does me liking a single FPS make my thoughts on the oversaturation of FPS games suddenly moot? Of course not.
 

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LilithSlave said:
But I've been a big fan of Lilith Aensland ever since she was first introduced.
TO be honest, I have no clue as to who this fictional character is. However, I'd me more than happy to learn and then answer your question. If you could point me in the right direction, I'd be most appreciative.
 

LilithSlave

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evilneko said:

Doesn't look very loli does she? In-'verse she's 12. Which IMO, is loli.
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Wait, WHAT? Canaan is TWELVE? I saw a couple of episodes of that and didn't finish it. God knows why because it looked awesome and starred a strong female character for once. In an action show, no less. Something we haven't been getting a whole lot of in anime since Ghost in the Shell.

She doesn't look like a kid at all. She looks like a very badass adult woman. Sure, she has big eyes, but that's most anime characters. That's not cool. How did someone wind up looking like that at twelve? And where's it stated?
totally heterosexual said:
Darkstalkers, Old fighting game, Op explained poorly.
I didn't think I'd need to. Are Escapist users so wrapped up in wRPGs and PC gaming that they haven't heard of important fighting titles like Darkstalkers? This website makes me sad.
 

evilneko

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LilithSlave said:
Wait, WHAT? Canaan is TWELVE? I saw a couple of episodes of that and didn't finish it. God knows why because it looked awesome and starred a strong female character for once. In an action show, no less. Something we haven't been getting a whole lot of in anime since Ghost in the Shell.

She doesn't look like a kid at all. She looks like a very badass adult woman. Sure, she has big eyes, but that's most anime characters. That's not cool. How did someone wind up looking like that at twelve? And where's it stated?
totally heterosexual said:
Darkstalkers, Old fighting game, Op explained poorly.
I didn't think I'd need to. Are Escapist users so wrapped up in wRPGs and PC gaming that they haven't heard of important fighting titles like Darkstalkers? This website makes me sad.
Pretty sure it's mentioned in like the first episode.

Would love to see a gunfight with Canaan vs. Kirika. That would be awesome.
 

LilithSlave

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godofallu said:
I don't know what who Lilith is, and I don't know what a loli is.
You and others saying this, you haven't been into video games very long, have you? Also, I hope you consider yourself a "hardcore gamer" with a gaming education like that.

It's no Street Fighter or Tekken. But Darkstalkers is a pretty major fighting game franchise.
evilneko said:
Pretty sure it's mentioned in like the first episode.
Wait what where?

How did I miss this? I don't remember seeing that. Somebody screenshot me.
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck...

[sub]I love that saying.[/sub]

You can try to legitimise it as much as you want, 'dude, she's not really a little girl, she's 500 years old!'.

Yeah, that doesn't really cut it :D
Well, it is still incorrect terminology. Lolicon would concern young children. Lilith looks like a 15 year old to me. Also, being attracted to a drawing is a lot different than being attracted to an actual person.
http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Rise_Kujikawa
She is 15. Being attracted to Rise is far different than being attracted to an actual 15 year old.
 

Vereth

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LilithSlave said:
I never liked that characterization of her. Because it makes Morrigan more important than her.

But I don't think that reflects her desire to "grow" up, but just to fuse back with Morrigan. She comes off as self hating, when I think she's a worthy character in her own right.;_;
The "I can't stand this!" just makes it seem like she's not satisfied with how she looks. But you can interpret that however you want I guess.

LilithSlave said:
Also, come on, saying you're experiencing something new is not something that makes you a child or even child-like.
Virginity innuendo coming from a young looking girl is a little suspicious.