Do you consider Lilith Aensland fans Lolicons?
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What about those of us that are barely passable at Mortal Kombat, let alone a game that takes some skill? Fighting games are only fun if you're good at them. I get destroyed on easy...I would much rather snuggle my bunny. Have I mentioned that I have a bunny? Bunnies are awesome. Cake is also awesome. Pie is better though. I haven't taken medication for my ADHD in about 7 years. It shows someti-squirrel!LilithSlave said:
It not like fighting games are hard. Also, stop playing vs computers and put in some lab time. Your only as scrubby as you want to be.wintercoat said:
(P.s. mk9 is a good fighting game that does take skill and probably one of the best fighting games of this console generation.)
I was going to discuss how she is -designed- to be a take on lolicon, but the question isn't really about that--it's about those she may appeal to.
Now... my first thought looking at Lilith was that it was some form of boy. That was a clue in to me that it's just not as simple as 'she's made to look a girl.' While she has the childish demeanor and small chest, she doesn't have the aspects of traditional japanese child-depictions.
And... those hips are another giveaway. [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HartmanHips]
The goal, it seems, is not for loli, but for androgyny. She's meant to look like she's straddling genderlines, and my first thought was to send pics of her to a friend of mine who is into androgynous people in a sexy way--not to another friend who is about the loli.
So... I cannot therefore logically conclude that her fans are lolicon freaks--I'm pretty sure there's some androgyny lovers who look at her with the deliciousness.
Now... my first thought looking at Lilith was that it was some form of boy. That was a clue in to me that it's just not as simple as 'she's made to look a girl.' While she has the childish demeanor and small chest, she doesn't have the aspects of traditional japanese child-depictions.
And... those hips are another giveaway. [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HartmanHips]
The goal, it seems, is not for loli, but for androgyny. She's meant to look like she's straddling genderlines, and my first thought was to send pics of her to a friend of mine who is into androgynous people in a sexy way--not to another friend who is about the loli.
So... I cannot therefore logically conclude that her fans are lolicon freaks--I'm pretty sure there's some androgyny lovers who look at her with the deliciousness.
Who cares? It's a drawing. She doesn't exist. She's just a picture... That someone drew. If you interpreted her character as an adult then I don't think the lolicon label applies. It's like those dumbshit "trap" characters in anime, where they draw a girl and then announce that it's a guy.
It's a picture of a girl.
It's a picture of a girl.
This thread got weird and insane really quick (it didn't help that halfway through reading the comments if found a spider in my room which isn't something i like finding at 1:20 in the morning)I personally don't care if someone is a lolicon as long as it never reaches real life for the obvious reason. I also don't even think Lilith is loli cause she is not childish looking enough, in my opinion she looks like a 17-19 year old that happens to have a flat-chest.
I'm not into the game but she looks like a young woman (20 ish?) with a boyish figure to me (although she has very wide hips). I hate to break it to you guys but not all grown women have massive boobies.LilithSlave said:
I wouldn't worry about it OP
Can't people dislike something and be done with it? I find "succubus" characters that look like little girls silly. I'm not calling anyone a pedophile, and im not insecure when it comes to sexuality. I find generalizations from both sides silly and ridiculous to be honest.
I find the character concept confusing. She's a demon who's purpose is to seduce and sex men....yet she is a peppy underdog with the mindset of a highschool girl and super cute/silly? I find most japanese butcherings of fantasy characters that aren't their own misguided for the most part. Like they took the concept of a succubus because "hey its sex appeal!" and thew in some fanbait into it. Nothing against you liking it, its just clearly not designed with a deeper meaning.
I find the character concept confusing. She's a demon who's purpose is to seduce and sex men....yet she is a peppy underdog with the mindset of a highschool girl and super cute/silly? I find most japanese butcherings of fantasy characters that aren't their own misguided for the most part. Like they took the concept of a succubus because "hey its sex appeal!" and thew in some fanbait into it. Nothing against you liking it, its just clearly not designed with a deeper meaning.
Lolicon, no idea, but in the UK and most of Scandinavia, having any drawings of her in sexual situations is likely get you conviction added to the 'sex offenders' register.LilithSlave said:
Why because you would have a had job convincing a jury that she did not give the 'impression' of being over 18, which is how the law is writer, certainly in the UK.
After 6 pages of responses I doubt there's anything I could say that would actually ADD to the conversation. But I'd just like to point out the only reason people consider Lilith as being a loli is because she's flat chested. In truth she's just as old as Morrigan because she was born OF Morrigan. I forget exactly how the story goes, but Morrigan's father (or someone) knew that Morrigan would grow insanely powerful and so they sectioned off a chunk of her power and sealed it away. Lilith is a physical manifestation of that chunk of Morrigan's power that was removed. This is why it's part of Morrigan's plotline that she wants to re-absorb Lilith so she can reach her full power, so too is it part of Lilith's story that - being her own separate entity - she wants to absorb Morrigan and essentially take her place.
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so just answering to the titular question:
Being a fan of a character =/= Being sexually attracted to he/she/it
in some cases the opposite might apply but it ranges from person to person
But in general?No.
I mean hell,i'm a fan of Leanne in RoF,but that don't mean i want to jump into bed with her.
so just answering to the titular question:
Being a fan of a character =/= Being sexually attracted to he/she/it
in some cases the opposite might apply but it ranges from person to person
But in general?No.
I mean hell,i'm a fan of Leanne in RoF,but that don't mean i want to jump into bed with her.
I just searched her. She doesn?t look anything like a child to me, so I don?t know what they?re on about.
Whether or not she?s really so-and-so age (anime?s weird with this anyway) doesn?t matter if she?s a fictional character that, in reality, looks like an adult. Perhaps a youthful-looking one with a flat chest, but still an adult nonetheless.
Also, liking one fictional character who happens to be prepubescent doesn?t make you a paedophile. A paedophile is defined as being an adult or late adolescent who has a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children. Not all child molesters are paedophiles, because many of them have happily married lives, maybe with kids themselves, and fiddle little children on the side because they?re vulnerable and/or because they like the power it gives them and humiliation it gives their victim.
What would being attracted to Sakura from Street Fighter make someone? Not a paedophile, perhaps not even a ephebophile. She?s a high school girl, probably around the typical age of 16, and has the attractive features of an adult woman. I?ve genuinely seen comments on YouTube of people berating others for saying that they?d have hypothetical sex with her, but how many of us when we were teenagers had sexual relationships with other teenagers? Perhaps, as an adult, we wouldn?t do it now, but we could still find them attractive.
Whether or not she?s really so-and-so age (anime?s weird with this anyway) doesn?t matter if she?s a fictional character that, in reality, looks like an adult. Perhaps a youthful-looking one with a flat chest, but still an adult nonetheless.
Also, liking one fictional character who happens to be prepubescent doesn?t make you a paedophile. A paedophile is defined as being an adult or late adolescent who has a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children. Not all child molesters are paedophiles, because many of them have happily married lives, maybe with kids themselves, and fiddle little children on the side because they?re vulnerable and/or because they like the power it gives them and humiliation it gives their victim.
What would being attracted to Sakura from Street Fighter make someone? Not a paedophile, perhaps not even a ephebophile. She?s a high school girl, probably around the typical age of 16, and has the attractive features of an adult woman. I?ve genuinely seen comments on YouTube of people berating others for saying that they?d have hypothetical sex with her, but how many of us when we were teenagers had sexual relationships with other teenagers? Perhaps, as an adult, we wouldn?t do it now, but we could still find them attractive.
The blatantly female clothing didn't give it away?DracoSuave said:
Wait, what? I thought it was only owning child porn that could get you convicted, not lolicon? If it's not real, it doesn't harm anyone, does it?ph0b0s123 said:
A lot of that's probably fanart. I'm looking at official artwork of her now, and she's definitely not lolicon. Look at those long legs and hips.Das Boot said: