Do you feel uncomfortable watching real people die on video?

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Ygrez

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Saw an animated documentary called "Waltz with Bashir", it talks about a massacre during the war in Lebanon and everything that led up to it. They talk about all the horrors they saw while there, and give descriptions and all but it didn't really affect me... until the last 2 or 3 minutes.

With no prior warning it switches to real footage and shows you the aftermath of the massacre as filmed by the journalist they had just interviewed to a few minutes earlier showing you exactly what he was talking about.
 

Frankster

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I prefer my violence to be strictly fictional tyvm.

I like all kinds of sick and gory stuff in fiction but in reality I'd hate to see any of it and certainly don't seek out rl gore stuff (that's why I play violent videogames instead!)
 

LaoJim

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It's not a question of feeling uncomfortable, I have always regarded watching someones death as being disrespectful to them; unless there is a strong reason to watch it and the family have explicitly asked for it to be viewed. The only occasion when I've watched something under those circumstances was the Terry Pratchett documentary about assisted suicide where they filmed a man with a terminal illness' last moments in a Swiss Clinic. In all other cases I'm happy to just have a description of the cause of death - there is very rarely a good reason to watch something like that.

Of course I grew up before Youtube was a thing - in those days the only time you were likely to see anything resembling a fatality was if you watched motor sport and there was a bad accident.
 

CrystalShadow

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Yes. Ir's disturbing seeing reality rather than fiction.

In fact, when you think about it, it's bizarre how TV news broadcasts are shown during the day without so much as a warning, while a violent film or tv series gets massive warnings put on it.

Seeing the real thing is both far more disturbing, and ultimately far more likely to cause the kind of desensitisation that people seem so obsessed with blaming fictional media for...

Most people are innately aware that fiction isn't real.
Show them something that is though, and you'll likely see the difference in how they react to it...

It's normal to find it disturbing. If you don't, then that's actually kind of worrying.
And if you react the same to fiction as you do to reality, then there are obvious concerns about your ability to tell the two apart...
(feeding into that topic everyone hates so much. Is violent media a bad influence. Well, if you can't seperate it from reality, then almost certainly)
 

EHKOS

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Well, the video in question didn't effect me at all. Was actually kind of glad. 3 guys 1 hammer on the other hand...I think it was because they wouldn't just finish him off. That rugged breathing *shudders*

Normally I'm not phased by death, or at the very least it's just kind of gross.
 

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Zhukov said:
Umm... trying to think of a way to say this without sounding like some tryhard acting jaded on the internet. Got nothing, so I'm just going to blurt it out any old how:

When you've seen enough people die in real life it loses its sting.

Death, at least in Western society, is made out to be a big thing, almost mystical. I suppose it is in a way, the great unknown and all that, but it's also oddly mundane. People don't die in a manner any different to other animals. Either slowly in a gradual shutdown or quickly with a panicked squeal.

You can get used to seeing it, and faster than you'd think.

Seeing suffering upsets me (and I'd be worried if it didn't). Seeing mourning and loss makes me profoundly sad, because, y'know, basic empathy. But death itself, not so much.

All that said, I don't really understand the viewpoint of people who watch videos like that for a laugh. The comments on sites like Liveleak often disgust me more than the videos themselves.
Zhukov: I don't always see eye-to-eye with you on a lot of topics here, I hold my tongue because I know the best ground we can get to is agreeing to disagree. That being said, you and I stand almost exactly the same on this issue.

When you've seen enough death, you change in profound ways. It isn't something that can be explained, because everyone's perspective on life is different but you're right. As you experience death personally, you change as a person and see the world and mortality in a whole new aspect. The more of it you see, the more you change.

I wouldn't say one gets desensitized to seeing death, seeing another or scores of others die... if someone does I'd worry that person is a danger to society in general because one still must have empathy for the loss of life.

I could go on and on about the depth of what it is to experience death, not just see it on video but it will never carry the weight. I don't have the words. All I can say is that it is nothing to laugh at, though there are times that a death can be seen as funny by circumstance but still it has a weight of loss behind it.

I feel a lot of things, probably more than most people do. I may over-experience feels, and it is difficult for me at times... I think I'll make a post about that later.
 

lacktheknack

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It makes me REALLY sick. I'm more empathy-driven than I thought I was.

I saw a video of someone actually getting killed in a car crash, and I thought I was going to vomit right then and there. The irreversible and final nature of it is incredibly jarring.
 

SKBPinkie

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Even something like a heart attack would still affect me, and the effect that'd have on me wouldn't be anywhere close to the videos you guys are talking about (execution, bombing, vehicle accidents, etc).

Somehow death caused by cruelty / self-harm is significantly worse in my eyes. And I may sound like an old man here, but I'm not exactly comfortable knowing that the internet has made it so easy to find and view that stuff.
 
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I personally don't understand the "well, we all die, get used to it. It's normal" sentiment. I know we all die. But it doesn't mean it should be a glib thing.

I get it. It's a very normal part of life.

So is kissing. I actually don't really want to see that moment either. So is relieving yourself. Again, no. Someone being broken up with, the same. These are private moments in my eyes. And sometimes, yes, they can't be private. But I know people would rather not be a spectacle. And I have to assume times that by a hundred million if this is the last moment you'll ever have.

Not only that, because of who I am and my culture, I do force myself to watch people dying all the time. Or at least, being horribly injured. The rash of police fatalities against black males is alarming. The bullshit they spin needs to be also addressed by the truth.

Perfect example is Tamir Rice. The cops are reported as saying "?Upon arrival on scene, officers located the suspect and advised him to raise his hands. The suspect did not comply with the officers? orders and reached to his waistband for the gun. Shots were fired and the suspect was struck in the torso.? [http://www.buzzfeed.com/alisonvingiano/cleveland-toy-gun-shooting#.vwqOGdPR5w]"

The video released shows cops rolling up on the scene and Tamir Rice falling down shot not even seconds after the cop opens the door. I'm not even entirely sure if the cop shot Rice while he was still getting out of the car.

I force myself to watch that stuff because... I need to know. I don't enjoy it. Not even slightly.
 

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Yea-no... Fictional or bust, in the people dying department... Plus, I really don't like looking up videos of actual people dying...

Other than that, my level of comfort can only go so far as to "watching someone suffer in a hospital bed from an illness that they may or may not recover from" before we go into "please may this not be real" levels of "irrational" thantophobia on my end...
 

Timeless Lavender

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Yes. I hate seeing people suffer and die, regardless of what kind of person the victim is. This is why I do not watch any footage of real people dieing, maybe if I am doing my academic report but definitely not for entertainment.
 

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In my previous life I was an EMS/Fire Captain. As part of our training materials we routinely got unedited footage from Fires, accidents, disasters, etc. The stuff that they could not show on television or ever release to the public. I always found it rather sobering. Granted these were not pictures of foreign fighters a world away, but more often then not ordinary civilians or Firefighters suddenly subjected to dangerous and fatal situations. People like you and me. And having dealt with more than a few deaths in haunting circumstances live and up close over the years you gain a certain perspective. It was always the images of perfectly ordinary life that suddenly changes that were most troubling. Some of them stay with me decades later. Like I don't think I will ever forget some footage that was shot of the Galveston Monsanto ship fire from the 40's (I think, to lazy to look it up). It was a ship full of fertilizer on fire at the dock in Galveston harbor. The local fire departments were trying desperately to put it out, and pouring water into the boat (without a lot of planning or in hindsight clear thinking.) As the water started filling the ship, it started displacing the diesel fuel in the ships fully topped off fuel bunkers. Water is heavier than diesel. So the water went in, the diesel came out, and mixed with the fertilizer. And... boom... They found one of the Fire Engines in a farmers field in the next county. They caught it all on film.
 

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faefrost said:
I believe it was 1947, but I could be wrong. It's somber, but I'm not really surprised to hear about another tragedy connected to Galveston, it has as dark a history a place can have. In the few times I've been there I've visited cemeteries, mass body-burning sites and the locations of gruesome murders. It seems there's no end to Galveston's macabre history.

OT: My level of discomfort depends on context. A lot of people here have brought up the Budd Dweyer suicide, but that didn't bother me so much because it was his choice. When it's an instance of somebody inflicting death on someone who wants to live, I find it revolting. Like the example in the OP, the man who died did so because he was wielding the weapon he was going to use to kill others. That doesn't feel me with empathy.

I don't think it's disrespectful to watch videos where people die because something can be learned from it, a lesson of value can be taken away sometimes. What disturbs me are the people who watch things like that for pleasure, and comment accordingly. Regardless of why you're watching, whether it's by choice or not, it's a heavy thing. Not something to be so blasé about.
 

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I actually saw some poor bastard commit suicide live on Fox News. He was running from the police, they disable his car and he took off running in a field. He runs, trips once, and finally he stops running cause I suppose he realized he couldn't get away.

He just stands there. Then he takes a hand gun and puts it to his temple. Pop. I can still see in my minds eye the creepy way his body fell.

Now the dude was a scumbag, still watching someone's final moments like that (especially when not expecting it) was... unbelievably raw and disturbing. Honestly I feel unsettled just thinking about it now.

...I also saw the Budd Dywer suicide video. I really rather wish I hadn't made that decision to watch it, I felt like it made me a worse person because I sought it out after learning about it. His death though was a kinda nice fuck you to the system that was fucking him over. He was about to be sent to jail for alleged embezzlement that he claimed to the end he didn't do. By taking his life while still technically in office, he was able to make sure that his family got the government death benefits and not be financially ruined.

EDIT: Fictional example, the movie Roots where they decide midway across the atlantic to dump overboard some of the slaves. They're all chained up together on deck and they tie a chain to this anchor and kick it over and you just see one by one by one them getting dragged overboard. I know it was just a movie, but god what a horrible way to go.
 

Xan Krieger

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When I first started watching them it gave me nightmares, now having seen enough they don't bother me in the slightest. I had set out to desensitize myself so that if bad things do happen I can react rationally instead of losing my composure. Now with the right commentary I can even laugh at those videos.
 

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Probably not as much as it should. Like those Islamic State videos? Terrible videos, but I think the...intention behind them scares me more than the actions. Now they don't scare scare me as much as piss me off, but you get the point right?
If there was a video of someone comfortably dying in a hospital bed, surrounded by family and loved ones, no one would find it horrifying.
Is there really any such thing as a comfortable death? Prehaps with enough morphine you cant remember your own name.
 

Strazdas

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To a point. Certainly much more than if i see somone die where i know its an actor. People differentiate between real life and fiction and fiction does not get you desensitized.
 

McElroy

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Thanks for the tips. I'll check these things out as they appear on my radar. Out of simple curiosity and yeah, usually no reaction and a sudden dip to dark humor. I like the "terrible" jokes people make in the comments.

But I saw a documentary that described the final moments of Japanese soldiers as well as civilian villagers during the final island-hopping stage of WWII, and damn, that story is the saddest thing I've ever heard and only thinking about it almost makes me teary-eyed. So all in all I'd say it's a pick-n-mix of sorts. I get no reaction until I get one, but generally no. Videos are just documents. You can't save the already dead but maybe learn from them. Or something.