Do you get angry/annoyed when people disrespect your country's flag?

[BristolBerserker]

I enjoy seeing the Union flag being flown because well i'm British and proud of it. I hate seeing people burning or desecrating it, especially in front of veterans on remembrance day. I also hate seeing the EU flag, it's not my flag.

 

[Kirke]

Nah, I am a Majbo, If someone pisses or burns the swedish flag I might just piss on it myself just for fun.

 

[Awexsome]

I'm fine with the kind of stuff as in, "It's a piece of cloth, I'm gonna throw it in this box" but there are times when people purposefully disrepect the flag in a ways of saying "fuck you" to the country. That can sometimes annoy me. Unless I think out country did do something that deserved a little, "fuck you" from someone.

 

[warrcry13]

No. It's some colours on some fabric. We're all the same animal, for almost all intents and purposes, clones. Countries are meaningless.

Or, thats what I would say if I were a dirty liberl. Hell yeah, I get annoyed when my great empires flag is shown anything but the respect it deserves.

I cant even tell who your making fun of you switched from ignorant liberal to ignorant conservative so fast.

I'm confused by this as well. I'm not sure what's going on here.

captcha yorstat Applications.

 

[shadow_Fox81]

...Fuck of its a piece of cloth, the tricolour means something, the Union jack meant something just because your a liberal left wing toss dosn't mean you have the right to bad mouth things you never held dear. fuck off.

I like the anger at disrespect in the same run-on sentence with a disrespectful insult. Brilliant.

to be fair on my self i was incredibly drunk so i'm amazed i typed at all.
(and generally I'm a liberal left wing toss)

but i totally stand by what i said even if it shows a somewhat displaced and ecclectic thought pattern

 

[sean360h]

No because its just a flag
I do get annoyed if some one starts the alcoholic ginger leprechaun gag at me

 

[codeg]

No I'm from America so I'm used to it

 

[Tommeh Brownleh]

It's a hunk of cloth, whats there to respect? I don't respect it, and I don't think you should.

 

[Grandpappyduplenty]

Was born in the UK by random chance, my existence here is coincidence - my love of the flag is zero, it's just a silly theory people got behind in some obscure, immature era ages ago..

If there was a flag for science and rationalism, I'd be offended if THAT were disrespected.

 

[Totenkopf]

Patriotism is stupid, it's fanaticism directed towards a land mass!

Exactly. Aspects like a shared national identity and cultural heritage are just meaningless rumors spread by some right-wing rednecks.
Who needs the preservation of history, heritage and values when you can be a cool and edgy by rejecting those things!

The problem is that patriotism veers far to often into jingoism and flat-out fascism. There's nothing wrong with being proud of your heritage, but very frequently, it just ends up encouraging childish dick-waving between countries.

I consider myself a patriot, and it's not my fault when someone descends onto the level of inappropriate chauvinism, neither is it the fault of the idea of patriotism itself. It's the fault of the limited mental capacities of that person, since they develop / encourage this attitude.
I won't respond to your mention of facism here, that would simply get too long.

Your country is where your parents 'did' each other, then birthed & raised you....nothing more.

Yeah! Nothing happened here before! Fuck the knowledge of how all of this came into existence and why it is like it is, life's just about carelessly living today! Hooray!

The point, I think, was that you are not obligated to feel a deep, protective love of the land of your birth just because you were born there. Many patriotic folks seem to think that you should be a fervent supporter of wherever-the-hell-you're-from, and I think he was making a pretty clear counter-point to that mindset.

Excuse me?
The lack of patriotism is most of the time a clear indicator for disrespect towards important aspects like the aforementioned cultural heritage, selflessness / dedication towards a higher cause and the benefits of a common identity.
It's unlikely that you can defend that on a reasonable basis without bias and misconceptions.

To the OP and like-minded; grow up! before your arteries harden from pointless stress.

Of course, you should totally ignore when someone displays a hostile attitude towards your home country, would be damn unreasonable and even politically incorrect to do so.

Seriously now, your point could use some improvement...

No, no. You're right, let's start hooting and screaming back, rather than ignoring it. We might as well just act like the screaming, clannish, shit-flinging apes we're descended from, right?

You know what? Any given nation has likely done stuff to warrant hostile attitudes from some other nations. That's just a fact of life. Getting irritated and belligerent back really doesn't make you look any better; in fact, it often goads people into behaving even worse, thus fueling the hatred even more.

"Hey, look, they are burning the symbol that stands for our homeland and it's people."
"Just let them, they don't mean anything bad by it. Besides, it would make you seem like a primitive person if you act against this."

It's true that most to all of the nations on this planet don't have a clean record.
That's not a reason to generally suffer some low-life traitors people attacking them from within, since this merely has contra-productive effects.
Real critique has the ability to improve the situation, but letting shameless aggression like flag-burning out of spite simply go without punishment is simply unreasonable. I see no use in tolerating it, especially since you would be responding to an open attack.

 

[dibblywibbles]

I don't know, do you get upset when people use stars and stripes napkins to wipe the mustard off their shirt from a delicious hot dog? it's the same thing. I'm not too worried what people do with a piece of fabric.

 

[TheMagicLemur]

I consider myself a patriot, and it's not my fault when someone descends onto the level of inappropriate chauvinism, neither is it the fault of the idea of patriotism itself. It's the fault of the limited mental capacities of that person, since they develop / encourage this attitude.
I won't respond to your mention of facism here, that would simply get too long.

Uh-huh. My mention of fascism is because fascism puts veneration of the state above all else.

Excuse me?
The lack of patriotism is most of the time a clear indicator for disrespect towards important aspects like the aforementioned cultural heritage, selflessness / dedication towards a higher cause and the benefits of a common identity.
It's unlikely that you can defend that on a reasonable basis without bias and misconceptions.

So if I disagree with you, I'm "biased". Bonus points for internet arguing skill!

I am a pretty selfless person, and I'm willing to die for a cause I believe in, but I'm not a patriot. I don't really have that much pride in my heritage, but that doesn't mean I'm ashamed of it. I just choose not to define myself by my ancestry.

"Hey, look, they are burning the symbol that stands for our homeland and it's people."
"Just let them, they don't mean anything bad by it. Besides, it would make you seem like a primitive person if you act against this."

It's true that most to all of the nations on this planet don't have a clean record.
That's not a reason to generally suffer some low-life traitors people attacking them from within, since this merely has contra-productive effects.
Real critique has the ability to improve the situation, but letting shameless aggression like flag-burning out of spite simply go without punishment is simply unreasonable. I see no use in tolerating it, especially since you would be responding to an open attack.

Yes, people expressing dissatisfaction with their government by destroying something that symbolizes it definitely equals traitor. That's not in any way fascist.

Someone burning your flag is not an "open attack" on you or your country, it is them saying "we are pissed at you." You can respond aggressively, which will give them more reason to be pissed, or you can stay calm and not react, or react by saying "I'm sorry you feel that way", or any number of other ways that makes them look like crazy, overreacting fools, instead of making yourself look that way.

 

[FalloutJack]

Do you get angry/annoyed when people disrespect your country's flag?

Pffft...no. I'd have to get pissed off at the large amount of Americans doing it, alot of them swearing up and down that they're die-hard patriots. (You know the kind.)

 

[Fangface74]

Patriotism is stupid, it's fanaticism directed towards a land mass!

Exactly. Aspects like a shared national identity and cultural heritage are just meaningless rumors spread by some right-wing rednecks.
Who needs the preservation of history, heritage and values when you can be a cool and edgy by rejecting those things!

I'm not a traditionalist by any means, just because somethings old doesn't make it right but I never said anything about the rejection of history. If anything it's there to learn from, so as not to make the same mistakes all over again. By preservation of history, heritage & values do you mean we should cling to the 'old ways'? This is the core failing of Republicanism.

And as for "shared national identity and cultural heritage", they're just buzz words, what do they really mean? Google will bring up more about Americas identity crisis than it will a resolute picture. What do those phrases mean to you in REAL terms?, without resorting to more buzz words.

I'd say in a world better than this one (a global community perhaps?) they would mean everything, in the world we're in however they're just morale boosters for the insular.

 

[TheMagicLemur]

I'm not a traditionalist by any means, just because somethings old doesn't make it right but I never said anything about the rejection of history. If anything it's there to learn from, so as not to make the same mistakes all over again. By preservation of history, heritage & values do you mean we should cling to the 'old ways'? This is the core failing of Republicanism.

And as for "shared national identity and cultural heritage", they're just buzz words, what do they really mean? Google will bring up more about Americas identity crisis than it will a resolute picture. What do those phrases mean to you in REAL terms?, without resorting to more buzz words.

I'd say in a world better than this one (a global community perhaps?) they would mean everything, in the world we're in however they're just morale boosters for the insular.

Agreed, with pretty much everything here. Honestly, when I hear "national identity" and "cultural heritage", I tend to think of hate groups like the Klan who throw those terms around, because they cling desperately to their perceptions of those concepts. Which is why knowing your heritage is good, but venerating it can be kind of a sticky situation.

 

[TheMagicLemur]

No.
I am an American.
There's nothing anyone could say about that, that wouldn't come off as sounding jealous.

I am an American, and it's pretty meh. It's not the worst place in the world, but it could be a lot better.

 

[dibblywibbles]

I don't know, do you get upset when people use stars and stripes napkins to wipe the mustard off their shirt from a delicious hot dog? it's the same thing. I'm not too worried what people do with a piece of fabric.

Shame on you for your lack of knowledge. I napkin could never be an flag for it is not made of cloth. Only traditional cloth really counts.(I don't really know, but I think this the case.)

your flag is a representation of your country. Whether it's on cloth or paper it makes no difference. cloth isn't the sacred part, it's the symbol on it silly.