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OT: I am prejudiced against everyone and everything that isn't me.
Do you have any prejudices?
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OT: I am prejudiced against everyone and everything that isn't me.
I'm prejudiced against people who don't like Jai Paul or the Avalanches.
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How are topics about prejudice and cartoon characters unrelated to my prejudices and cartoon characters?TopazFusion said:
Destiny, I hate the concept thoroughly and complacently. Communism and all forms of Collectivist thought, It's harmful to our progression as a whole and makes all poor instead of Capitalism which is about trying to climb up the social ladder. And I don't think dark skinned women are sexy at all, nothing against them as people but them as objects of desire it just looses me.
That is not a feminist. A feminist doesn't look for sexist things, they want equality for women and in my case, I want equality between the sexes. (longer paternity leave for men, more rights when it comes to children for men, etc.) I probably lean more towards equalist, but I do define myself as a feminist.FFP2 said:
Please don't lump us all together, there are those kind of men hating feminists that strive to make men feel bad but they just give us a bad name. If something is blatantly sexist, we will fight against it but only the nutjobs will comb through absolutely everything to say something is sexist when it isn't.
It isn't about dragging men down and making them feel bad, it's about us fighting(?) to be equal.
OT: I have this silly one with teenagers. I feel really nervous when a group of them walk by me because I always expect them to say something or pick a fight. Girls make me feel worse because they can be so bitchy it's unbelievable! It's silly because a group of kids haven't said anything to me in years. Maybe once or twice they'll say something when they're behind me but most of them just ignore me. I used to get it all the time when I was their age so now groups of them make me really nervous. Might take a few years, but I'm sure I'll get over it.
I have prejudices against the religious, the loud, and those that use Macs instead of PCs. They just... they just remove basic functionality, and then charge twice as bloody much! The people I know who use them have bought them for all the wrong reasons (such as the fella who said he wanted it for its artistic benefits over the PC, and then never uses it for such).
I'm not counting my dislike of the bigoted as a prejudice, because that's not pre-judgement. It's judgement on the basis of their actions, words and morals. Doesn't seem to fit the bill to me.
I'm not counting my dislike of the bigoted as a prejudice, because that's not pre-judgement. It's judgement on the basis of their actions, words and morals. Doesn't seem to fit the bill to me.
Sure I do.
The thing about a prejudice is it can affect your behaviour without you even really being aware of it's existence.
Every time I subtly assume something about a person because of the way they dress, the colour of their skin, or something they've said (or any of a number of other factors too numerous to list), that's a prejudice of some kind, whether I'm specifically aware of it or not.
Still, the most amusing, if only for the irony of it, is that I have a fairly strong prejudice against people that are prejudiced.
(Well, I usually say I'm intolerant of people that are intolerant.)
For one thing the statement itself is an exaggeration of how I actually feel, but the more obvious point is that if you take it at face value it seems kind of hypocritical.
And while it actually is is hypocritical on several levels, (aside from anything else, I certainly don't just tolerate anything), it does make some degree of sense. If you don't like prejudice and intolerance, it's rather counter-productive to tolerate it in others.
Sure, not accepting it in others makes you prejudiced yourself, ironically, but you can't reduce the consequences of something if you just accept people doing it because to do otherwise would somehow be hypocritical.
... See how much of a headache that becomes? XD
But in all seriousness, I know I am prejudiced in several ways because of how I react to certain kinds of things.
To give you a concrete example, I was out at about 10 in the evening, and wanted to get some stuff from a small supermarket. However, there were two black men hanging around outside wearing hoodies. And it made me pretty nervous.
In England, there's an image of youths wearing hoodies as being troublemakers and thugs, and I was alone late at night.
Now, I don't usually think of myself as racist either, but when looking at it later it did give me pause to wonder if this had any influence on how I felt.
Now, there's at least 3 potential prejudices at work in this case, but I certainly wasn't thinking about them explicitly at the time. It's only after the fact when I stopped to think about why I felt so nervous with them being there...
-The first is a group of youths in hooded tops hanging around a shopfront late at night... That's a major thing in a lot of places, but in England in particular there's an association with that potentially being a group of troublemakers.
-The second point being that since I was a woman out alone in the evening, a group of men hanging around can seem like a threat just for being men...
- Finally, we have the one that's perhaps the most painful to admit. (It's not inherently any worse than the other prejudices involved in the example, it's just because of the history behind it, people are a lot more sensitive about it.) - which is that they were black. - Now, given the other factors, I'm not sure how much influence it actually had on me feeling nervous about them being there, but it's one of those things that makes you wonder... Because they were black, and I was nervous about their presence, was that in any way reflective of any deeply engrained prejudices I'm only vaguely aware of, or was it perhaps just an unfortunate coincidence to go with the other things about them that were already causing me to worry?
Regardless of the specifics though, all 3 factors are examples of ingrained prejudice. I was getting nervous based on little more than a superficial judgement of what these people looked like, and what they were doing. (Which wasn't much; just standing around).
Now, unfortunately, even if my fears were justified (which they weren't), the way I made that decision is nonetheless an example of prejudice; I assumed something negative about some people I'd never met, based on a very superficial judgement.
But in the end I guess it just goes to show how difficult it is to avoid prejudice completely.
(Which shouldn't be a huge surprise when you think about it... I mean, 'Discrimination' is a term that comes from the ability to 'discriminate', which, when taken in it's most neutral context actually means to be able to tell things apart - If a person truly lacked the ability to discriminate, then they'd pretty much be incapable of basic thought. - To be able to tell the difference between a tree and a car is discrimination. - That's obviously not what people are thinking of when they use that word, but part of the problem is a direct consequence of this otherwise vital ability to be able to tell things apart.)
The thing about a prejudice is it can affect your behaviour without you even really being aware of it's existence.
Every time I subtly assume something about a person because of the way they dress, the colour of their skin, or something they've said (or any of a number of other factors too numerous to list), that's a prejudice of some kind, whether I'm specifically aware of it or not.
Still, the most amusing, if only for the irony of it, is that I have a fairly strong prejudice against people that are prejudiced.
(Well, I usually say I'm intolerant of people that are intolerant.)
For one thing the statement itself is an exaggeration of how I actually feel, but the more obvious point is that if you take it at face value it seems kind of hypocritical.
And while it actually is is hypocritical on several levels, (aside from anything else, I certainly don't just tolerate anything), it does make some degree of sense. If you don't like prejudice and intolerance, it's rather counter-productive to tolerate it in others.
Sure, not accepting it in others makes you prejudiced yourself, ironically, but you can't reduce the consequences of something if you just accept people doing it because to do otherwise would somehow be hypocritical.
... See how much of a headache that becomes? XD
But in all seriousness, I know I am prejudiced in several ways because of how I react to certain kinds of things.
To give you a concrete example, I was out at about 10 in the evening, and wanted to get some stuff from a small supermarket. However, there were two black men hanging around outside wearing hoodies. And it made me pretty nervous.
In England, there's an image of youths wearing hoodies as being troublemakers and thugs, and I was alone late at night.
Now, I don't usually think of myself as racist either, but when looking at it later it did give me pause to wonder if this had any influence on how I felt.
Now, there's at least 3 potential prejudices at work in this case, but I certainly wasn't thinking about them explicitly at the time. It's only after the fact when I stopped to think about why I felt so nervous with them being there...
-The first is a group of youths in hooded tops hanging around a shopfront late at night... That's a major thing in a lot of places, but in England in particular there's an association with that potentially being a group of troublemakers.
-The second point being that since I was a woman out alone in the evening, a group of men hanging around can seem like a threat just for being men...
- Finally, we have the one that's perhaps the most painful to admit. (It's not inherently any worse than the other prejudices involved in the example, it's just because of the history behind it, people are a lot more sensitive about it.) - which is that they were black. - Now, given the other factors, I'm not sure how much influence it actually had on me feeling nervous about them being there, but it's one of those things that makes you wonder... Because they were black, and I was nervous about their presence, was that in any way reflective of any deeply engrained prejudices I'm only vaguely aware of, or was it perhaps just an unfortunate coincidence to go with the other things about them that were already causing me to worry?
Regardless of the specifics though, all 3 factors are examples of ingrained prejudice. I was getting nervous based on little more than a superficial judgement of what these people looked like, and what they were doing. (Which wasn't much; just standing around).
Now, unfortunately, even if my fears were justified (which they weren't), the way I made that decision is nonetheless an example of prejudice; I assumed something negative about some people I'd never met, based on a very superficial judgement.
But in the end I guess it just goes to show how difficult it is to avoid prejudice completely.
(Which shouldn't be a huge surprise when you think about it... I mean, 'Discrimination' is a term that comes from the ability to 'discriminate', which, when taken in it's most neutral context actually means to be able to tell things apart - If a person truly lacked the ability to discriminate, then they'd pretty much be incapable of basic thought. - To be able to tell the difference between a tree and a car is discrimination. - That's obviously not what people are thinking of when they use that word, but part of the problem is a direct consequence of this otherwise vital ability to be able to tell things apart.)
I'm not counting my dislike of the bigoted as a prejudice, because that's not pre-judgement. It's judgement on the basis of their actions, words and morals. Doesn't seem to fit the bill to me.
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The only pre-judice I can justify is my dislike of people who try to justify their obesity as something they can not change. If you're fat because you want to bef at, or at least know its a bad thing bully for you. But trying to say that you were born fat, or couldn't lose weight is no, no, no.
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The only pre-judice I can justify is my dislike of people who try to justify their obesity as something they can not change. If you're fat because you want to bef at, or at least know its a bad thing bully for you. But trying to say that you were born fat, or couldn't lose weight is no, no, no.
Hipsters. Can't stand them. They represent everything that is wrong with the youth of today. Also anyone who says YOLO.
Ants, I'm prejudiced against ants.vento 231 said:
I don't think any straight man is comfortable with the thought of another chap penetrating the exit area. But being pro gay isn't about saying yeah that's a good idea. More "as long as it between consenting adults, let them get on with it." i haven't got a problem with gay people, my problem lies in more overly camp people, its not hatred its more annoyance.
Not in a real serious way that I outright hate them, but awkward teen me still thinks pretty lesbians are unfair. He's ok with lesbians he doesn't find attractive, but Awkward Teen Me is still all butthurt about how hard it was to get a girlfriend back then. And to see attractive women just keep it in the family (so to speak) makes him feel sad.
On a more real level... Drivers and Pedestrians. This is actual hate. Every time I go out on the road, I feel like making a thread damning you people. All of you.
In Drivers I hate:
-Those assholes who cut right in front of you on an exit ramp. Triple that if you were in traffic all that time and you waited patiently like a human being.
-Those people who cut in front of you because you're not going above the speed limit enough in the middle lane when the other lanes are free. How they have to dip into another free lane just to jump in front of you and go faster to prove... what exactly? If you had two other lanes to go as fast as you want, and obviously you're not going for an exit because we're in the middle lane... Did your dick get bigger by doing that? I don't understand those people.
-People who honk to tell you to wait as they speed right by when you're pulling out of a parking space instead of slowing the hell down. Be less of an ass. Just freaking wait. You can do it, as all of us were born with the ability to.
Pedestrians I hate:
-I will not drive in Manhattan or at least near any clubs or bars during the summer or a weekend night. I've seen the drunk trio of girls* nearly run into the middle of the road from the sidewalk so many times... I'm not even afraid any more that I almost killed someone. I'm just getting more and more angry until I'll start actively hunting those girls down.
-I find it annoying when people see the do not walk sign flash and then turn solid, the light turns green, and they can't wait. They have to run barely into the road even though the lights green and then they start to walk. Like nothing is the matter. They'll pass one car running and walk the rest of the way to the other side, checking their iphone or whatever.
I'm not even an angry person, but even thinking about driving and seeing these people again is getting my aggression up.
*sidebar: Ladies... why is it always 3-5 you go out with? Is it apart of your female guidebook?
On a more real level... Drivers and Pedestrians. This is actual hate. Every time I go out on the road, I feel like making a thread damning you people. All of you.
In Drivers I hate:
-Those assholes who cut right in front of you on an exit ramp. Triple that if you were in traffic all that time and you waited patiently like a human being.
-Those people who cut in front of you because you're not going above the speed limit enough in the middle lane when the other lanes are free. How they have to dip into another free lane just to jump in front of you and go faster to prove... what exactly? If you had two other lanes to go as fast as you want, and obviously you're not going for an exit because we're in the middle lane... Did your dick get bigger by doing that? I don't understand those people.
-People who honk to tell you to wait as they speed right by when you're pulling out of a parking space instead of slowing the hell down. Be less of an ass. Just freaking wait. You can do it, as all of us were born with the ability to.
Pedestrians I hate:
-I will not drive in Manhattan or at least near any clubs or bars during the summer or a weekend night. I've seen the drunk trio of girls* nearly run into the middle of the road from the sidewalk so many times... I'm not even afraid any more that I almost killed someone. I'm just getting more and more angry until I'll start actively hunting those girls down.
-I find it annoying when people see the do not walk sign flash and then turn solid, the light turns green, and they can't wait. They have to run barely into the road even though the lights green and then they start to walk. Like nothing is the matter. They'll pass one car running and walk the rest of the way to the other side, checking their iphone or whatever.
I'm not even an angry person, but even thinking about driving and seeing these people again is getting my aggression up.
*sidebar: Ladies... why is it always 3-5 you go out with? Is it apart of your female guidebook?
Oh yeah. They're fine. Generally cool people.FFP2 said:Never said that I wasn't a hypocriteShadowstar38 said:
What about Crips? You okay with them?
I try to be as anti-racist, prejudice and stereotypical as possible but I think like everybody else you do have at least a few even if they're minor in severity. I for example can't help but stereotype chavs because for the most part that stereotype works and actually makes sense if you don't want to get mugged or have abuse thrown at you, sure some might be pleasant but they're few and far between.
The other pet peeve is Jewish people driving, now don't get me wrong I have nothing against Jewish people except they can't drive, I even went to Auschwitz as part of the LFA project and am aware of how poorly they've been treated, I'm not calling for their heads or anything extreme like that, but in my experience they can't drive well, maybe it's only the Jews where I live but they just can't drive and I don't understand it, is it just come cultural thing that they don't put much emphasis on it when learning? Or some other reason. But please I'm trying my best to ignore it but it keeps cropping up and I can't help but let it both annoy and stump me. I mean seriously is there some Jewish group out there that deliberately sends all of their bad drivers to live where I do while the rest are on the same levels as F1 drivers? All the while they're having a good laugh at us and our misconceptions at our expense?
The other pet peeve is Jewish people driving, now don't get me wrong I have nothing against Jewish people except they can't drive, I even went to Auschwitz as part of the LFA project and am aware of how poorly they've been treated, I'm not calling for their heads or anything extreme like that, but in my experience they can't drive well, maybe it's only the Jews where I live but they just can't drive and I don't understand it, is it just come cultural thing that they don't put much emphasis on it when learning? Or some other reason. But please I'm trying my best to ignore it but it keeps cropping up and I can't help but let it both annoy and stump me. I mean seriously is there some Jewish group out there that deliberately sends all of their bad drivers to live where I do while the rest are on the same levels as F1 drivers? All the while they're having a good laugh at us and our misconceptions at our expense?
I really should start explaining things better...EeveeElectro said:
I meant straw feminists like Sarkeesian and that Patricia asswipe from Kotaku. Those people tend to make me dismiss all feminists. I know all feminists aren't like that though
I'm all for equality. But not when it only suits one gender and only for certain things. Full equality all the way.
I didn't even know men had paternity leave...