I'm technically considered one. Shame I'm wasting it in the IT field though. I just don't have much motivation to do anything outside of that as a career. I'm most savvy at computer-related tasks, plain and simple.
She goes to Stuyvesant High School. Going into senior year now as far as I know. I say as far as I know because the possibility of her graduating early is very possible from what I've seen of her.Kryzantine said:I am quite curious as to this HS. I just graduated from one of the most competitive schools in the same system, so it would be interesting to see similarities.SeeIn2D said:I know a girl who is roughly 30 points north of genius on an IQ scale. I don't rely on those but based on what I saw when I was still in school with her I'd believe it. The girl pulled literally a 100 on everything and apparently got nearly 2400 on her SATs, with the essay being the faulty section. Now I don't usually trust grades since they are mostly test based, and obviously the SAT is itself a test and test taking is a skill in and of itself so thats not a good measure. I've read some of this girls papers that she's written and based on those and her collective grades from one of the most competitive high schools in NYC she is in fact a genius.
Anyway, I don't know if I can classify myself a genius. I didn't do too well on the SAT or in school (then again, my school required classes at least a year higher than those of the non-competitive schools), but most people in my school regarded me as a fucking god in some subjects, the social sciences in particular - comparative government, geopolitics, the like - the kind of guy that's a monster at Quizbowl. But most people were intelligent in their own rights. I can recall a few geniuses, not counting grades. A girl who could speak Latin fluently, a guy with Asperger's who was a bio and computer science specialist, another guy who made a mockery of Times crosswords - also a comp sci person. Plenty of intelligent people, plenty of above average intelligence people who were really good test takers, and a number of average people. Few below, but most of them dropped out quick. Didn't even slow classes down for them.
But everyone has a side to them, and genius still has to be earned in my book.
That makes a lot more sense, I was wondering about that figure thereGeneric Gamer said:No, I think I may have misphrased that. 70% are within one standard deviation of the average, 95% are within two standard deviations (thought it was 99% but I just checked it) but of that remaining 5% the bulk are below the average as opposed to above it.brandon237 said:No no wait what? Doesn't the 85-115 hold most of the population? And then a decent amount (but still far far fewer, 5-10% I think?) are in the 70-130 range. Then you get the remainders on the tips of the bell curve stretching all the way down to 0 (complete brain-damage) to 200 (immeasurable genius)?
I don't think 99% of people are above averageUnless they lied to me all these years...
I know this quote refers only to above average, and not actual high intelligence, but it fits[footnote]I will admit that it may apply to myself as well[/footnote]: 50% of people are of above average intelligence, 90% think they are.
That's true about the IQ though, people do tend to think they're above average and the values they make up frankly sound absurd when you know the scale. If someone tells me an online IQ test said they had a 136 IQ I politely tell them how unlikely that is.
Heh. I think he is fairly close to retirement as he has stopped taking on research students. I think he said that he will be at the uni full time for another 3 years, so if you want to run into the sculptures and the dog toys you may have to do it in the next 3 yearsQuaxar said:Wives... no appreciation for the necessities of chemists.Alucard 11189 said:Probably his wife wouldn't let him wear it. She even makes him cut his hair sometimesQuaxar said:I can see the hair thing, but I really don't understand how one could own that tie and not wear it. I'd never take it off damnit!Alucard 11189 said:Sadly not. I actually never saw him wear that tie in all the times he taught me actually, most people are enamoured with his hair XDQuaxar said:IQ tests say I am a genius... but I am too smart to believe in them.
Great Scott! Did he also give you the address he got that flippin' tie from?Alucard 11189 said:This guy was my Chemistry personal tutor and I had lectures with him
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The great Professor M Poliakoff. Was he a genius? Yes I would say so. He not only gave me great practical advice in chemistry, but he gave me great life experience. To me, he is a genius.You should see his office though. He had made this sculpture thing out of discarded water bottles over his office doorway. He would also teach us molecular symmetry using dog toys. He is one of those eccentric awesome people and is genuinely one of the nicest guys you will ever meet.
University of Nottingham, eh? I reckon I won't have much to do with a foreign university's chemistry department bu if that assumption should turn out false be sure I will be on the lookout for the recycled sculptures and canine playstuff.
Arrogance one I know what you mean, and I have probably been so on this thread, I am disappointed in me, and live ammo is volatile! But I will leave it there to remind me of these dark (ish, kinda?) days.Generic Gamer said:Well what I normally ask them is do they really think they're a third again smarter than most people. Like, take how much smarter a person is than a rock and divide it by three and you're that much smarter than the average person?brandon237 said:This is why I do NOT use online ones, they are a horrific representation, I think overall memory and performance, combined with a structured, written test give a decent measure of IQ, also taking into account something that the person is unnaturally good at, that seems to be a key factor in genius that IQ usually misses.
If they get an IQ of 136, make them show some other results and accomplishments that prove they are bright for their age.
I think for pure IQ I'm happier not knowing mine. Frankly I've seen dozens of examples of the smarter but useless man being outdone by the slightly slower but hard working and reliable one. I also don't like arrogance, especially in myself and I know myself too well to give me that ammo.
For intelligence I'd personally talk to the person and ask them what they've done. Genius level folk seem to have a pet project so it'd be worth looking at that rather than those slightly baffling 'which shape doesn't go' questions. Then again isn't there about twelve different measures of intelligence? I could have sworn the IQ test only measures about three or four different kinds, which is why it's not supposed to be used to work out if someone is []above[/i] average.
yep, my biology teacher. He was so smart. Like he taught biology that made undergraduates in med school flunk out to me as a freshman ( don't believe me? heres a link to a website he designed himself, and heres thae material he taught):Dirty Apple said:Because I don't. Or, at least, not that I've ever known. I've known some very smart people, but no one that I for sure knew to be genius level intelligence. If you do know a genius, what are they like personality wise. Aloof and contemptuous, or are they out-going and personable? I'm very curious about your experiences.
Oh dear. I'm going to need a name, there is a chance I would know her. I just graduated from there, and I happen to know a lot of the incoming seniors. If you're uncomfortable about posting it, message it or something. I am deathly curious as to whether I know this person IRL, and it would be impressive if I did, to compare intelligence.SeeIn2D said:She goes to Stuyvesant High School. Going into senior year now as far as I know. I say as far as I know because the possibility of her graduating early is very possible from what I've seen of her.Kryzantine said:I am quite curious as to this HS. I just graduated from one of the most competitive schools in the same system, so it would be interesting to see similarities.SeeIn2D said:I know a girl who is roughly 30 points north of genius on an IQ scale. I don't rely on those but based on what I saw when I was still in school with her I'd believe it. The girl pulled literally a 100 on everything and apparently got nearly 2400 on her SATs, with the essay being the faulty section. Now I don't usually trust grades since they are mostly test based, and obviously the SAT is itself a test and test taking is a skill in and of itself so thats not a good measure. I've read some of this girls papers that she's written and based on those and her collective grades from one of the most competitive high schools in NYC she is in fact a genius.
Anyway, I don't know if I can classify myself a genius. I didn't do too well on the SAT or in school (then again, my school required classes at least a year higher than those of the non-competitive schools), but most people in my school regarded me as a fucking god in some subjects, the social sciences in particular - comparative government, geopolitics, the like - the kind of guy that's a monster at Quizbowl. But most people were intelligent in their own rights. I can recall a few geniuses, not counting grades. A girl who could speak Latin fluently, a guy with Asperger's who was a bio and computer science specialist, another guy who made a mockery of Times crosswords - also a comp sci person. Plenty of intelligent people, plenty of above average intelligence people who were really good test takers, and a number of average people. Few below, but most of them dropped out quick. Didn't even slow classes down for them.
But everyone has a side to them, and genius still has to be earned in my book.