hell no. fuck da police! well, some of them actually are genuinely hardworking individuals who do there jobs sincerely for the betterment of the community and to actually HELP people and keep INNOCENT people SAFE. however, many of them are just power-tripped out d-bags that for the most parts do their jobs half-assedly and actually tend to avoid truly dangerous jobs in favor of busting people for negligible infractions so that they can make money off of all the tickets and not have to deal with the threat of being shot by actually bad and dangerous people. speaking of which, why do they have guns?!!! they should have at the very least rubber bullets, but preferably tazers of tranquilizers. cops in Japan don't even have any weapons aside from a nightstick! guns, that's just unnecessary brutality and can END SOMEONE'S LIFE, specifically a person they mistook as a threat but turned out to just be a misunderstanding...
Do you respect your police force?
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I'm from the US. I respect the police (most of the time) probably because I'm neutral good like that. My brother on the other hand hates every single police officer who ever lived with a passion.
No. Not any more than I respect any given civilian, because often times, they are just civilians, only they're given weapons and the ability to lock you up. I have issues with people in authority, and the more authority they have, the less likely I am to trust them. Which isn't to say I refuse to trust any cops at all, just that I'll assume that any given cop is a douchebag until they can prove otherwise.
Cincinnati police? Fuck no. I abide by the laws, but this city's cops are, for the most part, pretty racist. This city as a whole has race issues, but when you throw the cops into the mix, and they're just as ignorant as any other prejudice person, respect will become a rarity. I know some police kind of personally, and yeah, they're okay, but I would definitely say that a majority of our "civic guardians" openly discriminate. What really burns my ass is that so many people give them a hint of a reason to. It's pretty fucked up. I'm sick of it. NOTHING should ever come down to the color of one's skin, but it does way too often around here.
You confuse correlation with causation. In other words, just because the crime rate is low in Japan doesn't mean that this is due to efficient policing. There are factors such as Japan being a homogeneous society which is relatively egalitarian, the enduring influence of Confucianism on Japanese society, and so forth. If you look at the facts of how the police actually operate in Japan, you see a force that is poorly trained using outmoded techniques and one that relies on forced confessions to get convictions. For more details, check out the article below:RickRoll said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8290767.stm
I live in a Middle Eastern country called Bahrain. Guess most of you have heard of it by now cause of all the protests going on here. One thing I can say is, I ABSOLUTELY do not respect the police forces in this country. The Bahraini royal family employ only Sunnis (a sect of Islam) and naturalized Pakistanis and Yemenis in their police forces and their army. Bahraini Shiites (the other sect in Islam) weren't allowed (and still aren't) to join the army or the police forces because they are the oppressed majority. The royal family in Bahrain are from the Sunni sect which is the minority in Bahrain (around 30%). The Shiites in Bahrain have been living under oppression for so long and are trying to establish fairness and equality in this system through peaceful protests. They have attempted this in the past, but the closest they came was this time. They've been protesting ever since February of this year and things have still yet to settle down and they still did not get what they want.
I have never even seen a black cop (IRL), so i'll take your word for it. I heard similar thing from others, weird how things work.RickRoll said:
I respect people by default unless they give me a reason not to, Cops get a little more for two reasons. If they are "good cops"(which most are) they protect innocents and enforce the law which is needed by society and a pretty unappreciated field. If they are "bad" cop I pretend to because its best not to piss them off and cause an incident. Though in general I like cops, my dad is one and most of his friends I've met have been pretty cool guys, even went to a KISS concert with a few and had a bunch of laughs.
BTW, I live in a good sized city(about 70,000) so it isn't a big city or middle of nowhere.
BTW, I live in a good sized city(about 70,000) so it isn't a big city or middle of nowhere.
This is completely right. There are some bad apples but then again, there are bad apples in all walks of life but I credit the police force with respect it is due.GodsAndFishes said:
I'm Australian
New Hampshire, USA here.
While I can respect individual officers on a case-by-case situation, I can't respect the local police departments around here at all.
In my town, a few years ago, a number of police officers broke into the local fire department and vandalized it. When the fire department called them out on it, the police completely denied it despite being caught on camera.
Also in my town we had one officer who left the force after being reported for physically assaulting his wife and daughter and killing the family cat. We had another officer who left the force after totalling three police cruisers attempting to do the complex driving maneuvers you see in action movies. Then there's our police chief who sued the town over some kind of contractual breach, walked off with $250,000 - and kept his job (notable the quality of law enforcement in the area plummeted after that, until he finally left).
And the cops in the next town over abuse the hell out of their power regularly on the road. One time I had an officer tailgating me, he then proceeded to cross over a double-yellow line to pass me, driving easily 70mph in a 30mph zone with no lights or siren on. At the next intersection, while I was waiting for the light, I saw his cruiser parked at a Dunkin Donuts. /facepalm
While I can respect individual officers on a case-by-case situation, I can't respect the local police departments around here at all.
In my town, a few years ago, a number of police officers broke into the local fire department and vandalized it. When the fire department called them out on it, the police completely denied it despite being caught on camera.
Also in my town we had one officer who left the force after being reported for physically assaulting his wife and daughter and killing the family cat. We had another officer who left the force after totalling three police cruisers attempting to do the complex driving maneuvers you see in action movies. Then there's our police chief who sued the town over some kind of contractual breach, walked off with $250,000 - and kept his job (notable the quality of law enforcement in the area plummeted after that, until he finally left).
And the cops in the next town over abuse the hell out of their power regularly on the road. One time I had an officer tailgating me, he then proceeded to cross over a double-yellow line to pass me, driving easily 70mph in a 30mph zone with no lights or siren on. At the next intersection, while I was waiting for the light, I saw his cruiser parked at a Dunkin Donuts. /facepalm
Yes, yes I do. I live in Wisconsin and the police here have many, many more applicants than they have positions and as such are able to pick and choose. Many of our police officers are college graduates with talents ranging from the academic to the physical. I really do think that our police can and will handle whatever's thrown at them.
Well... this has been eye opening.
No, not really, I realize that the average person holds up police to some bizzare standard where they expect us to "unflinching yet work things on case by case" or "strict yet compassionate" etc.
Many of you state how one or two instances are what turn you off to your local dept. Yet then you say "I judge it on a case by case basis"
Maybe I should do another ask a cop/detective thread?
In actuality in the united states the amount of african american officers is off. If it was representative of the us as a whole about 13% of all law enforcement should be black. As it stands (last I recall reading about it in an FOP newsletter) it's higher than that (I want to say it's like 19%).
So maybe it's just where you live?
The first statement about self racism. Yeah, I've seen more of that than anything else. It has to do with a 'if i can come from the same neighborhood as you and turn out fine why can't you? You're making us all look bad" thought process. I've seen all races do it though.
No, not really, I realize that the average person holds up police to some bizzare standard where they expect us to "unflinching yet work things on case by case" or "strict yet compassionate" etc.
Many of you state how one or two instances are what turn you off to your local dept. Yet then you say "I judge it on a case by case basis"
Maybe I should do another ask a cop/detective thread?
25% of the department I'm on is black. Both my partner and supervisor are black (not African american my partner's parents are from Barbados and dislikes the term)ChaoticKraus said:
In actuality in the united states the amount of african american officers is off. If it was representative of the us as a whole about 13% of all law enforcement should be black. As it stands (last I recall reading about it in an FOP newsletter) it's higher than that (I want to say it's like 19%).
So maybe it's just where you live?
The first statement about self racism. Yeah, I've seen more of that than anything else. It has to do with a 'if i can come from the same neighborhood as you and turn out fine why can't you? You're making us all look bad" thought process. I've seen all races do it though.