I'm form Northern Ireland and i do respect the police, granted as of late i've been finding them more and more usless. They haven't been much use with the numerosu breaks-in but have always been quick to show up with a noise complaint
Do you respect your police force?
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Exactly! Most Crime comes from Have Nots wanting what the Haves have (awkward wording lol). I also know a lot about the concept of Bushido that pretty much every Japanese citizen has to a certain extent. It's the reason why they consider service to be an honor and thus never ask for tips and why if you lose your wallet you'll most likely be tracked down by someone who found it, instead of have it stolen, and also it's why there were virtually no cases of tramplings or other injuries from people trying to evacuate during that horrible Japanese Earthquake that happened recently. People have a very positive and respectful groupthink mentality in Japan that is seriously lacking in other parts of the globe, especially the USA.Leadfinger said:
respect the police force...?
I have more respect for ... uhm ... anything
really.
Why? Because the police force I know and love loves to round up, abuse and "straighten up" pot smokers while ignoring slightly more dangerous criminals, such as organized crime and corrupt officials and such...
Thank god, mo & jc they locked up the local weed dealer, now we're all so fucking safe.
I have more respect for ... uhm ... anything
really.Why? Because the police force I know and love loves to round up, abuse and "straighten up" pot smokers while ignoring slightly more dangerous criminals, such as organized crime and corrupt officials and such...
Thank god, mo & jc they locked up the local weed dealer, now we're all so fucking safe.
Well, I respect the state troopers and such, but when it comes to local police:
In short: No
In long: Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
In short: No
In long: Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Hmm tough one.
Well, my Father is a police officer - but that doesn't mean I am heavily biased at all. If your Father is an accountant you don't walk around having huge respect for all accountants, so it's the same for me.
I do think, that what the Police do, is ultimately good - and it is a brave and thankless job. So yes, all of them I do give a certain amount of respect by default.
But do I walk around thinking they are all noble defenders of good? Of course not. Some are rotten to the core, some make awful mistakes.
Well, my Father is a police officer - but that doesn't mean I am heavily biased at all. If your Father is an accountant you don't walk around having huge respect for all accountants, so it's the same for me.
I do think, that what the Police do, is ultimately good - and it is a brave and thankless job. So yes, all of them I do give a certain amount of respect by default.
But do I walk around thinking they are all noble defenders of good? Of course not. Some are rotten to the core, some make awful mistakes.
No, refusing a search doesn't give probable cause, nor does "giving off a suspicious vibe." And if you had probable cause already, there would be no need to ask permission. Now you say that you searched a car anyway even after the driver said no. If you found anything, wouldn't it be thrown out of court? BTW, check the site below for factual information:ace_of_something said:
http://flexyourrights.org/
These are civil servants who risk a lot to serve the community, that alone deserves respect. They're humans just like everybody else they bleed the same, except they deal with the worst of us, maybe they're a little bitter sometimes, maybe they're wrong too, deal with it. I've never had a problem with a police officer treating me or any of my friends poorly, you want to know why? Because I obey the law, I don't get drunk or do drugs and I don't go out of the way to annoy police officers.
tl;dr Police are great treat them with respect, you'll be fine.
tl;dr Police are great treat them with respect, you'll be fine.
Living in England, I have to say I do. One of my friend's parents is an ex detective, and it helps to get a bit more insight. For instance, when it comes to complaints in the riots about police not using batons and such, they're actually not allowed to use their batons in many cases. Police are generally disliked for either being too zealous or not doing enough, and when they're not doing enough it's because they aren't allowed to do more In the students' riots, people complained about them being to harsh, now they're not harsh enough.
First of all of course i wouldn't put 'a suspicious vibe' on a report. Nor would that be the actual reason, but i'm not going to list any of the legitimate ones, but some of them boil down to that.Leadfinger said:
Sorry dude, you're sites are wrong. It's more than enough. I've lived it.
Not a single one of those cases had anything thrown out in court.
It's not just me, my state, or even my region. That's nation wide. (the FOP has a forum i frequent as well)
If you want to spread false information or skewed/not exactly right information. Be my guest.
It makes our jobs a lot easier when people think they know more about things than they actually do.
edit: LOL I love how that site is a defense attorney selling his how to DVDs
Could you please cite the case law that establishes refusing a search as probable cause.ace_of_something said:
Considering how one of my best friends is currently a cop-in-training...
no.
Naw, just kidding, in all seriousness I treat the officers depending on how they treat me. If they walk up to me and act like a cocky asshole, I'll treat them the same way, then argue against the ticket in court. However, only the small minority of them are actually jerks and I tend to treat cops with the respect they deserve.
no.
Naw, just kidding, in all seriousness I treat the officers depending on how they treat me. If they walk up to me and act like a cocky asshole, I'll treat them the same way, then argue against the ticket in court. However, only the small minority of them are actually jerks and I tend to treat cops with the respect they deserve.
I do not respect people who enforce a regime that favors the rich and subsequently blames everything that is wrong in the world to underpriviledged youths whilst perpetually oppressing the same people who put them into power. They police force here is also extremely corrupt so fuck them with a stick.
The policing system is an extension of the law. Some laws are good in society while others are not. It's stupid to overgeneralize the policing system as either a good thing or a bad thing, just as it is foolish to overgeneralize the law as a good thing or a bad thing. Some cops are dicks. Some cops aren't. The same applies to laws. You should not follow authority for the sake of following authority, but because it is a just system that you approve of. If you are left questioning false authority, don't render yourself unto it. Evil prevails when good people do nothing. And like I said before, some cops are dicks, and some aren't.
My town's police force is very bored and has so little crime to deal with that abuse is their only means of enjoyment.
For example, my father randomly had a gun pulled on him, told in no uncertain terms that if the police officer shot him my father's body would be found with a gun, and then he was kicked in the balls. No, he wasn't arrested nor was he doing anything remotely illegal.
For example, my father randomly had a gun pulled on him, told in no uncertain terms that if the police officer shot him my father's body would be found with a gun, and then he was kicked in the balls. No, he wasn't arrested nor was he doing anything remotely illegal.