Do you support your troops?

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dbungus2000 said:
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kiwi_poo said:
If you're enough of an idiot(no offence) to join the army, then that's your problem, I won't support you.
Just wondering, do you support the idiots who join the fire department or police force instead?
i dont, especially the police force which is full of powertripping assholes, the fire department I respect a little more than cops because they dont make a living off of harrassing people, however i dont feel sorry when one gets hurt or dies on the job, they know what they got themselves into when they took that job. Basically I find supporting random people for the jobs they choose to be retarded, you dont know them or there motives.
I don't know what anybody's motives are. what I do know is that certain people are willing to risk their lives for a job that helps other people, and I find that to be admirable.
 

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I think many of them have good intentions, many do not. It depends on the troop as an individual.

It really boils down to: do I have a nationalistic feeling of guilt for not supporting America's soldiers, which I do not. I don't support France's troops, or Russia's troops or Israel's troops and I don't feel any reason to arbitrarily support every person in the United States military just because they are in the military.

Really though, the only person who I consider to be my troop is my brother in the USMC, and I support him. So by that token I suppose that I sort of do support my troops.
 

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YouCallMeNighthawk said:
I don't mean as in believe in the war they are fighting, What i mean is do you wish them well being over there and a safe return. I know alot of people on the escapist are against the war in Iraq & Afghanistan, but You can't blame the soldiers for that for they're only doing their job.

What made me think about this was i just heard the xfactor finalists song Hero. Which got me thinking about the boys over there and how much shit they must be going through day in day out. Also the pictures in the video sorta brought a tear to my eye seeing all the soldiers reunited with their wife and kids just filled me up with a sense of happyness.

So yeah, Do you support the troops over there?
nope
 

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cobra_ky said:
kiwi_poo said:
If you're enough of an idiot(no offence) to join the army, then that's your problem, I won't support you.
Just wondering, do you support the idiots who join the fire department or police force instead?
Yes. They are helping society, instead of destroying it.
 

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"Freedom isn't free. It comes at the highest price: Blood."
Of course I support the troops. You don't have to curse the troops to oppose the war. I pray for their safe return to their family and friends. If anyone opposes(not fails to support, outright opposes) anyone fighting for their freedom, they deserve to get impaled onto an American flag and played Toby Keith really loud, until they melt.
America, Fuck Yeah!
(The thoughts and feelings of this user do not necessarily reflect those of his country of origin. If you oppose this user's main idea, you're a Communist. Deal with it.)
 

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kiwi_poo said:
cobra_ky said:
kiwi_poo said:
If you're enough of an idiot(no offence) to join the army, then that's your problem, I won't support you.
Just wondering, do you support the idiots who join the fire department or police force instead?
Yes. They are helping society, instead of destroying it.
I would argue that the purpose of a military is to defend one society from other societies that threaten it. If they are not helping our society then that is the fault of the people commanding them.
 

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Don't support the soldiers in the least. At the end of the day, every person who joins this volunteer army has a choice. PERIOD. A person's first duty is to their conscience, and if they do not agree with something the greatest responsibility is to disobey. Of course, there are consequences to those actions but, again, personal responsibility. True cowardice is not standing up when you know something is wrong.

That said, I reserve judgment for soldiers of the US on an individual level. Some do fantastic things. Others are douchebags. And sometimes it is the hand you are dealt; you might never have a questionable order. You might have plenty. Part of it is chance, the rest is what you do with what you are given. There is a difference between patriotism and nationalism.

I would never fight in a war I didn't believe in. Draft? I'd rather sit in jail, or move to Mexico, than kill people I have no gripe with. Also, that line about "sacrificing in vain"? Pure psychological bullshit. The lives of people who have died are no longer as valuable as those who are still alive. It is a false attribution of meaning and ideological wealth to something that no longer has any. Grow up.
 

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And to anyone claiming we are defending our liberties abroad? Read a little, we're on the offensive here. America hasn't been defending anything since WWII. Just another empty jingoist farce.
 

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Exterminas said:
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Actually Germany isn't in any wars right now.
They are called peace missions, by the politicians, so I think our troops don't really need support, cause peace isn't dangerous.
Believe it or not, but for the first time since 1945 it is WAR
Although they're called "peace missions", and we're in the middle east for development work and leave the fighting mainly to U.S. soldiers and such, it's war

Soldiers of the Bundeswehr are fighting and dying right now, they fight against terrorism to guarantee our freedom and they need every kind of support they can get

Or why do you think German soldiers return back home in body bags and we send Leopard II tanks to aid them? Just because hostile bombers aren't flying over Germany to bomb our cities to rubble doesn't mean we are not fighting in a war.
Actually I was trying to be sarcastic about the fact that people act suprised when soldiers die on a peace mission and the politicians still refuse to call it a war.
I see, good to hear that. But I'm sorry too, didn't notice that in the first place.
 

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No. I don't care about my government too much, their whole system is fucked up and I'm a dark and edgy anti-social bastard. Sarcasm or not, no I don't support Canadian troops.

The whole Iraq/Afghanistan thing is pretty over-rated in my opinion. You can't fix anything by introducing outside forces - these countries are fucked. They'll end up killing each other anyways, and then who knows, maybe whatever comes after is better.

Now the soldiers individually, I don't mind them. Some are stuck up bastards, but the few I talked to and knew weren't too bad. I don't generally agree with what they're doing - the methods and ideology, mostly, I'm not really an anti-war person. But hey, it's their own life to throw away and their choice is as good as anyone else's.

Do I like my taxes going to things I have no use for and see little reason in? No, hell no. But there are plenty of other issues that I have with modern laws, and this one is hardly the biggest one.

So, eh, I'm pretty neutral. I'd support bloody slaughter, sure. But inefficient waste of human lives in some fucked up little country far away, not really. Especially when it's only really done as a suck-up move towards USA.

Although in that sense, then, as long as it concerns diplomacy and economics, maybe it's not too bad. Meh.
 

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Queen Michael said:
YouCallMeNighthawk said:
I don't mean as in believe in the war they are fighting, What i mean is do you wish them well being over there and a safe return. I know alot of people on the escapist are against the war in Iraq & Afghanistan, but You can't blame the soldiers for that for they're only doing their job.

What made me think about this was i just heard the xfactor finalists song Hero. Which got me thinking about the boys over there and how much shit they must be going through day in day out. Also the pictures in the video sorta brought a tear to my eye seeing all the soldiers reunited with their wife and kids just filled me up with a sense of happiness.

So yeah, Do you support the troops over there?
"they're only doing their job." So? You could say that about Dr. Mengele as well. (Of course I'm not suggesting that US troops resemble Josef Mengele. In my opnion, they don't.) That you earn a living doing something immoral doesn't make it any less immoral. So if I am against the war in Iraq & Afghanistan, why would I support the people waging that war?
The soldiers aren't waging the war! the goverments are!!!