Do you think music is getting better or worse?

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Jerious1154

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It's easy to say that music is dying because of how crap mainstream pop is, but good stuff is still going on under the radar.
You can even find good pop music being made now if you avoid mainstream hits and focus on indie bands.
 

The Key of J

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miracleofsound said:
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The point I'm trying to make is that there will always been something that survives every era and manage to float to the top of the sea of crap. More than likely, the people that do survive won't even be that popular during the time that they were writing. Mozart is a perfect example of this tendency. One of the most popular composers during Mozart's time was Antonio Salieri. They both worked together and respected each other as composers, but during their time Salieri was much more popular. Despite Salieri's popularity, Mozart's music continues to live on while Salieri is little more than a name in the history books in comparison.

The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, and Hendrix will more than likely be played a hundred years from now. Slash will probably die with time. Some of Aerosmith's songs will more than likely still be around, but many of them will probably also disappear over time as well.
It would be interesting to know just how much artistic licsence was used in the portrayal of thier relationship on Amadeus... from what I've heard, Salieri was the more popular but was madly jealous of Mozart's talent, as for want of a better word Salieri was a pop composer or at least the equivalent.

I can't think of one band who's come along this decade that has had the cultural and artistic impact of the Stones, Zeppelin or Hendrix.
This is more evidence historically that Salieri and Mozart were friendly and even composed a piece together. The events that inspired Amadeus was that when Mozart was dying he wrote in a letter that he was positive he had been poisoned. After Mozart died, Salieri's compositions started to decline in popularity, and then he claimed that he was the one that poisoned Mozart. Although no one can be sure what actually did happen back then, it is much more likely that Salieri saw his compositions declining and ,as a last ditch effort to preserve his name, claimed that he killed Mozart causing his name to be attach to Mozart's forever in history. It is also more likely that Mozart succumbed to his life style choices, choosing to spend more time parting than working. However, Peter Shaffer did present a very interesting spin on what could have happened in his play, and did get Mozart's personality down to a T based off of letters he had written to his sister.

In other words, the Mozart presented in Amadeus was probably very similar to the real life Mozart, but take the story with a grain of salt.
 

The Key of J

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Cajt said:
fenrizz said:
There will always be talented musicians, in every genre.
And there will always be way more untalented musicians than there will be talented ones.
For every one talented musician, there's a thousand untalented ones ripping off the talented one.
*cough*Mozart*cough* *cough*

Excuse me, had something caught in my throat there.
 

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The Key of J said:
[This is more evidence historically that Salieri and Mozart were friendly and even composed a piece together. The events that inspired Amadeus was that when Mozart was dying he wrote in a letter that he was positive he had been poisoned. After Mozart died, Salieri's compositions started to decline in popularity, and then he claimed that he was the one that poisoned Mozart. Although no one can be sure what actually did happen back then, it is much more likely that Salieri saw his compositions declining and ,as a last ditch effort to preserve his name, claimed that he killed Mozart causing his name to be attach to Mozart's forever in history. It is also more likely that Mozart succumbed to his life style choices, choosing to spend more time parting than working. However, Peter Shaffer did present a very interesting spin on what could have happened in his play, and did get Mozart's personality down to a T based off of letters he had written to his sister.

In other words, the Mozart presented in Amadeus was probably very similar to the real life Mozart, but take the story with a grain of salt.
So Mozart really was an arrogant obnoxious irritating twat then? lol. He preceded todays rockstars perfectly!

As much as I love the movie I never liked Mozart's music much... it's just that little bit too busy and seems a bit... vulgar to me.

I went to Don Giovani last year and it was like being punched repeatedly in the ears with a pneumatic drill for three hours.

Gimme Holzt or Tchaicovsky any day over him.
 

Mongodyr

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Some old music is awesome, some old music sucks. The same goes for new music.
Generally though, alot of recent musical releases has been kinda disapointing. There have been a few diamonds though. (Mastodon... El caco...)

I'm assuming this is how it will continue. Something will kick ass, most will suck.
 

Banana Phone Man

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It is up to you.
In my opinion I believe that it is getting worse with time but there are some songs that are fantastic and there are some realy bad songs. My favorite songs were made at 2004-2006.
For example Anastacia is my favorite singer. In 2005 (I think) she made her top single "Left outside alone" which was a great hit because of it's originality. She later relaunched in 2009 but targeted todays market and is not very different from everyone else, and not having much success.
 

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In my opinion, it's getting MUCH worse. On the radio all you hear is computer voices and talentless rappers. Music is no longer about making music, it's ALL about the money. As soon as some dumbass found out you can mess with peoples' voices, every artist under the sun uses it. So many songs today are 20-sum year olds pretending to be teenagers. Hell, that "Lady GaGa" made a hit record about how she's a drunk whore. You watch music on tv and so much is lip syncing. All the old stuff is so amazing and hynotizing, while every song today sounds the same. It's not about the music anymore, and I only see it getting worse.

The cancer: Flo Rida, Soulja Boy

The cure: System of a Down
 

zoozilla

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It's all subjective.

Personally, I don't really see music as getting "better" or "worse". I just see a progression; certain kinds of music become popular, fade away, become popular again, new genres are formed, etc.
 

The Key of J

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miracleofsound said:
The Key of J said:
[This is more evidence historically that Salieri and Mozart were friendly and even composed a piece together. The events that inspired Amadeus was that when Mozart was dying he wrote in a letter that he was positive he had been poisoned. After Mozart died, Salieri's compositions started to decline in popularity, and then he claimed that he was the one that poisoned Mozart. Although no one can be sure what actually did happen back then, it is much more likely that Salieri saw his compositions declining and ,as a last ditch effort to preserve his name, claimed that he killed Mozart causing his name to be attach to Mozart's forever in history. It is also more likely that Mozart succumbed to his life style choices, choosing to spend more time parting than working. However, Peter Shaffer did present a very interesting spin on what could have happened in his play, and did get Mozart's personality down to a T based off of letters he had written to his sister.

In other words, the Mozart presented in Amadeus was probably very similar to the real life Mozart, but take the story with a grain of salt.
So Mozart really was an arrogant obnoxious irritating twat then? lol. He preceded todays rockstars perfectly!

As much as I love the movie I never liked Mozart's music much... it's just that little bit too busy and seems a bit... vulgar to me.

I went to Don Giovani last year and it was like being punched repeatedly in the ears with a pneumatic drill for three hours.

Gimme Holzt or Tchaicovsky any day over him.
Mozart was the original rock star, he wrote music that defied general rules(came damn near close to having parallel fifths), bucked at authority, more than likely fooled around behind his wife's back, partied hearty, and died young and penny-less after leaving a legacy. Keith Richards has met his match. In his defense, Mozart did have an overbearing father and brain damage so it's no wonder he turned out screwy. Just like modern day musicians.
 

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+1 interents for being enough not to worry about anyone saying TL;DR

I know punk died in the 80s but some people like to label Green Ga..I mean Day and other such bands as punk

Also some music is indeed just noice, like Beethoven and...drum and bass.

Also I agree with the rap, its just alot of it is just utter bullshit that you have to dig deep to find the good stuff -___- It pisses me off when people declare entire genres crap because of some dick heads
 

JBarracudaL

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Mainstream music in the USA is getting much worse.
Real music is a constant, certain years wax and wane, (Though I can't say for sure because I can never get to EVERY release each year) but it always remains great. Taking new and interesting shapes, I would say certain forms of music have improved greatly. Music is a very broad, expansive thing, I can't say it as a whole is getting better or worse. There's no way, far too many details to discuss, I speak in genres.