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Casual Shinji

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I don't know if this has been discussed here in any real detail, but the whole 3-D advancement and the way it's being shoved down our throat is kinda pissing me off.
I'm sure that on the big screen and IMAX 3-D is great eventhough I've never seen it. But I'm okay with big screen 3-D, because the big screen is suppose to be theatrical and explosive. However, all this talk about TV screens and videogames going 3-D is really nagging me. Just when I've gotten used to high definition and online functionality there's this whole other uber techology hovering overhead like a digital sword of Damocles.

Maybe it's my age that's making me a lot more ridgid about new tech, but I hate being force fed 3-D to a point where I wont even be able to watch TV or play a game without getting migraines. Plus, I wear glasses, meaning I'd have to sit in front of my television wearing 2 pairs of glasses. Untill 3-D becomes a non-migraine inducing, non-glasses wearing technology, I hope it stays as far away from my livingroom as possible.

What is your stance on 3-D?
 

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I can't stand 3D. It's a cheap way to get 3 extra dollars out of us when we go to the movies and a way to attract a bunch of little kids to go see good movies. Up was an incredible movie but it attracted so many little kids that talked in the theater because of the 3D. Almost every animated movie now is coming out in 3D and I don't think that I like it. It makes everything darker and harder to concentrate on. Plus I wear glasses so it's hard to wear those big, bulky, ugly 3D glasses over my glasses. I really, really hate 3D.

Gaming in 3D would be equally terrible... if we're going to waste so much time on that, why don't we just go straight to virtual reality?
 

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ProfessorLayton said:
I can't stand 3D. It's a cheap way to get 3 extra dollars out of us when we go to the movies and a way to attract a bunch of little kids to go see good movies. Up was an incredible movie but it attracted so many little kids that talked in the theater because of the 3D. Almost every animated movie now is coming out in 3D and I don't think that I like it. It makes everything darker and harder to concentrate on. Plus I wear glasses so it's hard to wear those big, bulky, ugly 3D glasses over my glasses. I really, really hate 3D.
And that's only the theater.

The whole commercial push to get it into our livingroom is where it literally hits home.
 

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No, no, no, no, a million f**cking times NO.

3-D is terrible.

Look what it has done to movies, cheap ass effects!
 

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I've seen a few films in 3d and can't honestly say that it was worth the extra money, theres barely any difference.
 

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Casual Shinji said:
And that's only the theater.

The whole commercial push to get it into our livingroom is where it literally hits home.
That's one of the reasons I don't like Project Natal and stuff like that. When you get into making lame gimmicks for a system, then games will base themselves around these lame gimmicks. I know that I'm not the only one who doesn't want to stand up and pretend to move a crank to move a crank in a video game. That's not immersion, it's annoying, makes you look like an idiot, and pointless. See, ever since people started using that 3D gimmick, movies have been basing themselves around 3D. When the Wii used the motion control gimmick, it lost all hope of being a serious console because non-gamers always fall for gimmicks like that and when casual gamers take over the market, then more games will take advantage of that and start making games for casual gamers based around a gimmick. It's just bad for everyone.

GodsAndFishes said:
I've seen a few films in 3d and can't honestly say that it was worth the extra money, theres barely any difference.
Avatar is a good example of this. I wanted to see it in 2D but it was only showing in 3D where I was so I had to deal with it. Everything was darker and harder to concentrate on and I couldn't tell that it was in 3D most of the time. I mean there was nothing actually coming off of the screen, just people using 3D like dimensions which could just have easily been done by just blurring it like it's always been.
 

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3D is a completely pointless idea designed for the sake of innovation.
As far as I know, no-one ever complained about 2D. Same with high definition vs standard definition. Complete rubbish, but the TV companies will do everything they can to make it the norm.
 

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tomtom94 said:
3D is a completely pointless idea designed for the sake of innovation.
As far as I know, no-one ever complained about 2D. Same with high definition vs standard definition. Complete rubbish, but the TV companies will do everything they can to make it the norm.
Well I'll have to argue with you on this one because I actually have a high definition television and a standard definition one and sometimes I'll plug my 360 into the standard def one and there is definitely a notable difference. The high def TV just looks so much better.
 

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I am diametrically opposed to paying money to feeling like a fuckin' goof while I sit in a movie theater of OTHER people that feel like fuckin' goofs, to watch a half-baked movie that has been specifically directed to take advantage of the 3-D element, therein breaking the fourth wall (in my opinion).

That aside, all 3-D movies I have encountered have been over the top kid's movies, and horror movies, which has really created a poor association for me.
 

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tomtom94 said:
3D is a completely pointless idea designed for the sake of innovation.
As far as I know, no-one ever complained about 2D. Same with high definition vs standard definition. Complete rubbish, but the TV companies will do everything they can to make it the norm.
I think the difference between HD and 3-D is that HD can't cover up the fact when a movie/game is bad. But a bad movie/game in 3-D still has this 3-D veil covering up the quality.
 

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3D doesn't really bother me all that much. I can't wait to see them mixing hologram and VR stuff with crazy new things.
 

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I like the idea of 3D games, but it doesn't work for many existing genres of games. As I can attest by trying out the nVidia 3D goggles for PC, they aren't that great for FPSs, as the camera moves way too much. It LOOKS great, but makes the game harder to play. It seems to work well for racing games, or anything else where the camera doesn't make very quick turns. Things moving on-screen work, but when the screen itself is moving, it can become disorienting.

For 2D screens, the metaphor can be made that it acts like a "window" to the game environment. Thus, it makes sense to move this view around and see different areas. However, with a 3D screen, it's more like you have a cube (or a similar shape), and you're sweeping it around the 3D environment, only seeing what is inside the cube. Kinda weird and disorienting if you're moving it too quickly...
 

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dietpeachsnapple said:
That aside, all 3-D movies I have encountered have been over the top kid's movies, and horror movies, which has really created a poor association for me.
Well seeing as the movie industry is bleeding money because of the internet, we wont be seeing the end of it soon. I think there's an inherit danger that blockbusters are literally becoming 3 dimetional rollercoaster rides.
 

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Casual Shinji said:
dietpeachsnapple said:
That aside, all 3-D movies I have encountered have been over the top kid's movies, and horror movies, which has really created a poor association for me.
Well seeing as the movie industry is bleeding money because of the internet, we wont be seeing the end of it soon. I think there's an inherit danger that blockbusters are literally becoming 3 dimetional rollercoaster rides.
Superb! If they want to guarantee a lack of patronage by my part, I would recommend that they continue down that particular path. They already have trouble convincing me to shell out cash in the first place.
 

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I liked it when one or two really good movies a year got it but now that every movie with special effects or an animation is adding it for the extra wow factor! I'm growing bored with it. Did anybody that(over the age of 12) watched Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs say this is way better with food coming out of the screen!
 

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SirBryghtside said:
I don't want it.

Why?

Because you know when your pets go up to the screen really cutely and try to grab the things on the screens?

Until kitty 3D glasses, that will be no more. Also, I don't even have HD yet - 'tis waaay too soon.
This. [HEADING=2]Too. Soon.[/HEADING] Technical progress is all well and good, but talks about such things as "3D television sets" kinda annoy me when i don't even have a hi-def TV. Couldn't they research it more deeply for a decade or so and make a full-blown holographic projector?

I have the same gripe with "cloud computing". My Internet connection can't even give me ping below 70 when i play TF2, and they want to cram a real-time HD video stream into it? No, thank you very much.