Doctor Who Series 6.13: "The Wedding of River Song' [SPOILERS] + Series wrap up

[Encurtidos]

We know it will eventually be answered as River knows the Doctor's name.

Going to attempt to say this without sounding like an arse but did you not watch it properly?

He didn't tell her his name he said "look into my eye".

Just to show her he was inside the Tesselector and she wouldn't be able to kill him with her hand beams of doom.

In the words of River herself "he lies and so do I".

Now with that cleared up.

It wasn't an altogether bad one. It was a bit rushed due to trying to fit it all in the space of one episode but it went okay.

And Rory is still awesome.

But in series 4, just before River dies, Tennant's Doctor says;

"River, you know my name. You whispered my name in my ear. There's only one reason I would ever tell anyone my name. There's only one time I could?"

What do you think will happen to make him tell his name to River Song? I thought he would tell her when he was about to die, but now I don't know what caused him to tell his name.

Also I hope we don't find out his name, but find out something in his past that brings out his dark side, that would be more interesting!

 

[Soeroah]

The more I think about this, the less sense it makes.

Why didn't Kovarian just send some of the hundreds and hundreds of soldiers she has at her disposal to go back and shoot the Doctor in the face, rather than spend decades brainwashing River?
Why did they take Melody back to the 60s to find a spacesuit? Surely they have them in 2153?
Why did they even need River, if the suit controls itself?
Why didn't they take River from the 60s to 2011, rather than leaving her for ages?
Why did they wait for Mels to get to know Amy and Rory for over a decade so she could eventually meet the Doctor, when they could have taken her to any time period?
If they planned to put her in the lake in the spacesuit anyway, why did they let River try and poison The Doctor?
Why did they need a Time Lord if they're just going to put her in the suit? They could have just used the Ganger Amy or someone.
Seriously, why not just shoot The Doctor in the face?



Kovarian went through this convoluted bullshit plan when there were much simpler ways of killing The Doctor?

Apparently the things we call the Silence call themselves the 'Sentinels of time', and they knew about a fix point where the Doctor was said to die. Killing him at any other time before that point, in any other way than having 'an impossible astronaut' shooting him, would do the same thing to time as what happened, which the things we call the Silence didn't seem to like.

Basically, they wanted him dead, and they needed him to 'die' in the way shown anyway. They misinterpreted the scene, just like Amy, Rory, Canton, millions of viewers and billions of people who heard about the 'Doctor's' death.




Sonic Doctor; I've read somewhere that Moffat is leaning off the story-arc concept next season, and it will be back to disjointed episodic adventures.

*snip*
What do you think will happen to make him tell his name to River Song? I thought he would tell her when he was about to die, but now I don't know what caused him to tell his name.

Also I hope we don't find out his name, but find out something in his past that brings out his dark side, that would be more interesting!

What I like is that back in Silence in the Library, the Doctor said ""River, you know my name. You whispered my name in my ear. There's only one reason I would ever tell anyone my name. There's only one time I could?"...Everyone right away supposed he meant when he gets married, or when he dies. Suppose the Doctor had heard about this field of Trenzalor deal, where no creature can speak falsely or fail to answer, mabye that's what he was getting at?

 

[Sylocat]

When River Song proclaimed that she was willing to condemn the rest of time and space to oblivion because killing the Doctor would cause her to suffer more than every other creature put together, it made me want to grab Moffat and shout, "Who are you, and what did you do with the guy who wrote 'The Girl in the Fireplace'?"

 

[Soeroah]

When River Song proclaimed that she was willing to condemn the rest of time and space to oblivion because killing the Doctor would cause her to suffer more than every other creature put together, it made me want to grab Moffat and shout, "Who are you, and what did you do with the guy who wrote 'The Girl in the Fireplace'?"

Agreed. Annoyed with how emotional the series has been since the revival. Blink had next to no emotional baggage, no combat scenes, and it was the best episode I've ever seen. It was like 8 actors and an additional four dressed as statues.

 

[Sylocat]

When River Song proclaimed that she was willing to condemn the rest of time and space to oblivion because killing the Doctor would cause her to suffer more than every other creature put together, it made me want to grab Moffat and shout, "Who are you, and what did you do with the guy who wrote 'The Girl in the Fireplace'?"

Agreed. Annoyed with how emotional the series has been since the revival. Blink had next to no emotional baggage, no combat scenes, and it was the best episode I've ever seen. It was like 8 actors and an additional four dressed as statues.

It's not the fact that it's "emotional" that bothers me. "The Girl in the Fireplace" was brilliant, because it used emotions WELL.

Moffat appears to have been abducted and replaced with a robot clone. It would explain why he's gone from writing brilliant and insightful relationship dramedies to writing like he's never actually met or spoken to a woman in his life.

It would also explain why he butchered the Weeping Angels in Season Five. He INVENTED the Weeping Angels, for FSM's sake, how the hell did he suddenly forget everything about how they worked?

 

[TimeLord]

We know it will eventually be answered as River knows the Doctor's name.

Going to attempt to say this without sounding like an arse but did you not watch it properly?

He didn't tell her his name he said "look into my eye".

Just to show her he was inside the Tesselector and she wouldn't be able to kill him with her hand beams of doom.

In the words of River herself "he lies and so do I".

Now with that cleared up.

It wasn't an altogether bad one. It was a bit rushed due to trying to fit it all in the space of one episode but it went okay.

And Rory is still awesome.

But in series 4, just before River dies, Tennant's Doctor says;

"River, you know my name. You whispered my name in my ear. There's only one reason I would ever tell anyone my name. There's only one time I could?"

What do you think will happen to make him tell his name to River Song? I thought he would tell her when he was about to die, but now I don't know what caused him to tell his name.

Also I hope we don't find out his name, but find out something in his past that brings out his dark side, that would be more interesting!

It might still happen on his death, the "Fall of the Eleventh" or his proper final death when Doctor Who ends for good. River says she knows all the Doctor's faces. So it's highly likely she knows all his future regenerations and has interacted with them. Including his last before he dies for good.

I hope we finally get so see some Time War action. Maybe flashbacks or a spin off show or something that shows real detail into how and why he activated the 'moment' and destroyed his entire race.

 

[Varitel]

I was quite pleased with this. I, like many others was a bit worried that Mr. Moffat was going to do something kind of stupid. However, my faith in him has been restored to one or two notches below "Blink" status. He still has that edge. Every episode he wrote this season was one of the top-tier episodes, with the exception of "Let's Kill Hitler" which was a bit meh.

 

[ReservoirAngel]

I hope we finally get so see some Time War action. Maybe flashbacks or a spin off show or something that shows real detail into how and why he activated the 'moment' and destroyed his entire race.

Oh god, please no. That is the worst thing they could possibly do.

 

[WolfThomas]

Once again Rory proves his badassery, "it's already activated". Also I was sad at the passing of the Brigadier.

 

[Slash Dementia]

I thought the episode was good. Then River told Amy that The Doctor was still alive. We all knew he wouldn't really die, and, in my opinion, the episode would have been better without the grotesquely happy ending. Leaving the last two minutes out of the show would have left us with at least a question: How did he escape? Unless you figured it out before.

 

[Baron Khaine]

I think it is time they took out of the hands of the Brits and gave it to some Americans who understand how sci-fi should work.

There's a reason Doctor Who keeps defeating the Daleks; they're far too convinced of their own racial superiority.

"Jenkins?"
"Sir?"
"Chap with the Stars and Stripes, there. Five rounds rapid."

 

[Flamezdudes]

I spoke to my Philosophy teacher today and he made a really interesting point involving "The Question". If the question is "Doctor Who?" and that when/if it is answered Silence will fall, he explained that the Silence is the Silence of the SHOW since it is more important to us that his name is revealed and not the DW universe. Figurativly, the Doctor Who universe would end in our sense and the shows sense if we know his name because the show wouldn't be Doctor Who? anymore. Maybe he's looking too deeply into it but its a very interesting point.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

"Jenkins?"
"Sir?"
"Chap with the Stars and Stripes, there. Five rounds rapid."

That was truly a beautiful moment. Nicholas Courtney would have been proud of how respectful his send off was.

 

[Sylocat]

As for this series overall, here are my episodes from best to worst.


Day of the Moon
The Impossible Astronaut
The Doctor's Wife
The Wedding of River Song
A Good Man Goes to War
The God Complex
Closing Time
The Girl Who Waited
Let's Kill Hitler
Night Terrors
Curse of the Black Spot
The Almost People
The Rebel Flesh

Here's mine:

The Doctor's Wife
The Girl who Waited
A Good Man Goes to War
The Rebel Flesh/The Almost People
The God Complex
The Impossible Astronaut/Day of the Moon
Closing Time
Night Terrors
Let's Kill Hitler
Curse of the Black Spot
The Wedding of River Song

 

[Tanis]

So...did River REALLY die?

I mean, what if she, in the library, was one of those machines and said 'look into my eyes' - this way The Doctor saw, well, himself.

I know the messes around with the whole 'saved to a harddrive' bit, but, still...

Next Series, I hope, feature the return of Jennifer.

 

[Leah Bidigare]

I'm wondering how nobody sees this... How, in the Doctor's name, does Amy know that River is her daughter, when this takes place in "The Impossible Astronaut" and she was barely even pregnant with her? How does she go from, not even being sure she's pregnant, to, "in another timeline you and I are married, and we had a daughter and that's her"?

 

[TimeLord]

I'm wondering how nobody sees this... How, in the Doctor's name, does Amy know that River is her daughter, when this takes place in "The Impossible Astronaut" and she was barely even pregnant with her? How does she go from, not even being sure she's pregnant, to, "in another timeline you and I are married, and we had a daughter and that's her"?

Probably something to do with time compressing. Everything is happen at once so they know everything from each timeline?
I don't know for certain but you make a good point.

 

[Funkysandwich]

It was pretty predicable in the end. The "Previously on Doctor Who" bit at the start of the show gives you all the information you need to work out what will happen and how the doctor escapes. A good episode, but not exactly hard to figure out.

 

[willofbob]

the Silence are the creepiest monsters yet.

 

[Indeterminacy]

I'm wondering how nobody sees this... How, in the Doctor's name, does Amy know that River is her daughter, when this takes place in "The Impossible Astronaut" and she was barely even pregnant with her? How does she go from, not even being sure she's pregnant, to, "in another timeline you and I are married, and we had a daughter and that's her"?

Amy has this bizarre tendency to ignore branches in timelines (and hence narrative causality more generally) in plot-convenient ways. I'm guessing it must have something to do with being locked in the Pandorica for a couple thousand years, being revived as a result of a parallel past Amy giving her DNA to help revive the "present" Amy, and this material playing a part of the "regenerate the universe" plan.

Although don't forget that in the paradox world, all time is compressed and Winston Churchill is the President of the Holy Roman Empire. It's quite likely that the Amy is just not the same one that watches the "fake" doctor get shot.