does 2012 have any relevance in Christianity?

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eels05

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It'll be mildy interesting to see what the end of days nutters latch onto after 2012 comes and goes.

Any other sigificant dates on the horizon after that?
 

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ShadeOfRed said:
Here's my thoughts on the thing.
It won't be in 2012, it will be sooner. Why? Leap days. No doubt the Aztecs knew about the whole rotation and revolution of the Earth around the Sun, like all pre Dark Ages cultures they knew their shit. What they couldn't have known however, was that the Dark Ages buggered everything about how they would've told time up, and sometime after that we added our Leap Years. I am not at all sure when we added them in, but unless someone did some date buggering we're not going to have an apocalypse on that day.
And as far as I know, 2012 has no relevence to any of my Christian friends.
sorry i got mixed up this statement confused me so i said aztec instead of mayans.sorry i have my blond moments.or maybe this is 1 big misunderstanding and the mayans decided to end their calender at 2012 because by thn they may have thought they would be either dead or thought that by then they would have thought of a better way to keep time.Honestly its Y2K all over again.if there is some F&^%ing cave prophecy(or temple in this case) i really wanna see it otherwise it's complete and utter bull.not dissing any religion buy name 1 religion with actual proof that is phesible with everything in their religion otherwise it's another way to acheve peace and harmony(which has actualy not worked yet or for long).
 

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Silva said:
DrunkWithPower said:
crepesack said:
the prediction cycle of the chinese iching ends on 2012... just putting that out there to freak you guys.
The Hopi indians calendar also ends in December 2012... back at you.
This is insignificant. Both of those cycles are made so that they restart once they reach their end. The same can be said of the Mayan calendar - that's why it's called a calendar, by definition a calendar repeats itself once a cycle is completed. That's why in the Roman calendar, when the end of December comes, January starts.

There's no difference between that and the other ancient calendars in this sense - all of these systems are connected to astrology and seasonal cycles, which move our view of the ecliptic around (with a slight discrepancy that changes the pattern by several degrees over thousands of years, which these civilisations were unable to detect).

These systems are designed to repeat. The end of them does not signify the end of the world by default. Prophecy might, but in most of these cultures, that's not the case.

Let's stop pretending these cultures all predicted the end of the world; that's as culturally ignorant as a statement as the belief itself, which is so obviously inaccurate.
Where exactly in my statement did I say "The Hopi calendar ends on December 2012 so this means we are all dead."? Sorry to sound like a pompous ass about it but it was called for.
 

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2012 Wont Happen said:
I know that the 2012 apocalypse is based on the Mayan calendar. But today at school I saw somebody with a bunch of Christian symbols and then also the number "2012" stitched on their backpack which made me wonder if 2012 has some importance in revelations or some such
Read this.

The secret of 2012-- revealed [http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4093]
 

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No. It has no value whatsoever. Even though some claim it "makes sense", I, as a Christian, find no validity in these claims as we aren't supposed to know when Christ returns.
 

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No, there isn't, and I'm going to spend the whole year of 2013 laughing in the face of every person who thought so.
 

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People who think the end of the Mayan calender heralds the end of the world are idiots. They're whole logic behind that thinking is the same as me saying the world will end on December 31st because that's when our calender ends.

And it doesn't help the doomsday-crowd's case that the Mayans didn't believe it would be the end of the world. Do you know what they planned to do when December 21st, 2012 came around? Party like it was New Years Eve, and then celebrate New Years day with a new calender (and most likely have a few sacrifices). That's it. There's no evidence they thought the world would end, there's no evidence they could see the future, nothing.

Here's some required reading for all doomsday believers;

http://www.cracked.com/article_17445_6-best-2012-apocalypse-theories-are-all-bullshit.html?ref=email

As for the person who brought up the bible code, you're right that it can be used to predict anything with anything. John Safran Vs God showed that the collected works of Vanilla Ice "predicted" 9/11 using the code and the 9/11 Commission report "predicted" the fall of Vanilla Ice's career.
 

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if the world STARTS to actually for once END i will hang myself,slit my wrist,stab myself through the heart,or shoot myself through the back of my head.i don't wanna live through the apoclapse.UNLESS it ment having sex afterword then i would wait it otherwise it's suicide.
 

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maybe the mayans just got lazy and just ended their calender at 2012
Close. They were gonna get to 2012...and start the calender over. Then do it all over again. There wasn't really any significance to it.
 

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2012 Wont Happen said:
I know that the 2012 apocalypse is based on the Mayan calendar. But today at school I saw somebody with a bunch of Christian symbols and then also the number "2012" stitched on their backpack which made me wonder if 2012 has some importance in revelations or some such
"God is in all things and all things are in God."

So if the world is going to end at some point, well, it MUST have something to do with Christianity. Right?
 

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It's not based on the Mayan Calender and only idiots believe that it is.
The Mayan calender just happens to end in 2012... There is no prediction for the end of the world... Their calender just had to end somewhere.
Fuck you, fuck the Mayans and fuck Christianity (and all religion for that matter).

Thank you and goodnight.

Disclaimer: Go fuck yourself.
 

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Oh, every fuckin' conspiracy theorist and Nostradamus fan out there has some time in the future pegged as "the end", when it finally happens, they'll all be like "TOLD Y- *URK*".

Like it's so hard to predict the fucking end of the world when you change when it happens every 5 years?

"Now! No? Okay, wait a bit longer..."

Seanchaidh said:
"God is in all things and all things are in God."

So if the world is going to end at some point, well, it MUST have something to do with Christianity. Right?
So, God is The Devil and will cause the apocalypse? What a dick.
 

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Where exactly in my statement did I say "The Hopi calendar ends on December 2012 so this means we are all dead."? Sorry to sound like a pompous ass about it but it was called for.
It just seemed like you were agreeing with crepesack's sentiments of "freaking people out". My bad. We normally either quote to disagree or quote to strongly agree, and your post didn't seem neutral or disagreeing.
 

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Booze Zombie said:
Seanchaidh said:
"God is in all things and all things are in God."

So if the world is going to end at some point, well, it MUST have something to do with Christianity. Right?
So, God is The Devil and will cause the apocalypse? What a dick.
All part of the plan, of course!
 

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Shoggoth2588 said:
The christians think Jesus will return then and that the world will end and blah, blah, blah and there will be doom and death for the non-believers and blah-de-blad-de-blah and power and glory for the true believers blah-blah-blah and there will be shrimp toast and cake when it's all over -shrugs-
Totally wrong, but whatever you say.
 

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Nothing really, unless the rapture happens to fall on that particular date (which it won't).
 

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I would like to mention that 2012 64 years after the rebirth of Israel, and is 8 times 8 is 64, and 8 is a really important number in China, and, and...
You can try to draw a whole bunch of conclusions about a bunch of things. You can find a bunch of different numbers and try to predict the future with them, but if there is a God, he's laughing at you. You th8nk you get away with global warming. The future will be determined by global warming and it starts now. It's not pre-determined for 2012 or whatever.
 

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Silva said:
DrunkWithPower said:
Where exactly in my statement did I say "The Hopi calendar ends on December 2012 so this means we are all dead."? Sorry to sound like a pompous ass about it but it was called for.
It just seemed like you were agreeing with crepesack's sentiments of "freaking people out". My bad. We normally either quote to disagree or quote to strongly agree, and your post didn't seem neutral or disagreeing.
Nah, I see your point, I should have put more into it.