Does anyone still read Graphic Novels?

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Cheery Lunatic

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I read the Batman comics (if you count those).
I just finished re-reading The Dark Knight Returns. God, I cried like a baby at the end.
 

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Because a couple of posts have brought up the fuzzy nature of the def'n of "Graphic Novel" I have petitioned the great goddess wiki for some additional information.

Wikipedia said:
The evolving term graphic novel is not strictly defined and is sometimes used, controversially, to imply subjective distinctions in artistic quality between graphic novels and other kinds of comics. It suggests a complete story that has a beginning, middle and end, as opposed to an ongoing series. It can also imply a story that is outside the genres commonly associated with comic books, or that deals with more mature themes. It is sometimes applied to works that fit this description even though they are serialized in traditional comic book format. The term is sometimes used to disassociate works from the juvenile or humorous connotations of the terms comics and comic book, implying that the work is more serious, mature, or literary than traditional comics. Following this reasoning, the French term Bande Dessinée is occasionally applied, by art historians and others schooled in fine arts, to dissociate comic books in the fine-art tradition from those of popular entertainment, even though in the French language the term has no such connotation and applies equally to all kinds of comic strips and books.
In the publishing trade, the term is sometimes extended to material that would not be considered a novel if produced in another medium. Collections of comic books that do not form a continuous story, anthologies or collections of loosely related pieces, and even non-fiction are stocked by libraries and bookstores as "graphic novels" (similar to the manner in which dramatic stories are included in "comic" books). It is also sometimes used to create a distinction between works created as stand-alone stories, in contrast to collections or compilations of a story arc from a comic book series published in book form.[3][4]
Whether manga, which has had a much longer history of both novel-like publishing and production of comics for adult audiences, should be included in the term is not always agreed upon. Likewise, in continental Europe, both original book-length stories such as La rivolta dei racchi (1967) by Guido Buzzeli,[5] and collections of comic strips have been commonly published in hardcover volumes, often called "albums", since the end of the 19th century (including Franco-Belgian comics series such as "The Adventures of Tintin" and "Lieutenant Blueberry", and Italian series such as "Corto Maltese").

Link [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphic_novel]
On topic: I'll occasionally pick one up or borrow one from a friend. Overall I read less than I'd like to. There just isn't enough time in the day. Maybe now that school's back in session I'll be able to read during downtime at work.
 

hecticpicnic

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ME i do
i like to collect one off kind of things like watchmen
you know like books
apart from that i just read manga whether it be bought, borrowed from a library
or scans online(i aviod them because there not that great only kind for long classic series
like dragon ball)
 

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Matthew Wilson said:
I'm not talking about comic books but actual Novels along the lines of Watchmen, I know people out there read them but no-one is open about it. I personally have Watchmen, Batman Arkham Asylum (The 15th anniversary edition with the notes at the back) and have started on the Preacher series. Also if anyone can recommend any Graphic Novels would be brilliant.
you know that Watchmen was comic issues first right? As was Preacher. they're just trade paperbacks don't try to make it sound fancier by differentiating.

as for a recommendation I'm gonna say Nextwave: Agents of H.A.T.E., it's a two volume series that's pretty highly regarded by just about anyone who's read it.

Or if you want something a bit more on tone with what you've tried go for Punishermax: Kingpin or Batman: Year One.
 

hecticpicnic

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I like to read dark horses stuff and sometimes weird artzy stuff you find in those underground alternitive book stores im not really into comics
 

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Tiny116 said:
HigherTomorrow said:
Tiny116 said:
I've read Wanted, Watchmen, Wolverine Origin and Old man Logan, House of M and Angel after the fall part one.
Granted some of these may not strictly be graphic Novels, but I read them and am slowly increasing my collection

Axolotl said:
How is the Watchmen not a comic?
I think It's to do with the size. Things like Ultimate Spiderman or Uncanny X-men are all comic books fairly short but make up a series.
Graphic Novels are much larger, like Watchmen and are stand alone
At least thats how I understand it
But Watchmen was released in 12 issues. A graphic novel is essentially a collection of issues or a long comic book.
This: http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-difference-between-graphic-novels-and-comic-books.htm
Seems to give a good definition of the differences....which are subtle.
Friend if I'm brutally honest in my eyes there just isn't a real difference. It's just older readers who became insecure about the fact that they're reading comics. I'll accept that most of these collections have become self contained stories, but some of them took years to become like that (e.g. 100 Bullets).

Me? I read tons of the stuff. The last thing I read was The Boys volume 3 (which was excellent) and DMZ vol.4 - Public Works. Both I'd recommmend to anyone who hasn't read them.

GothmogII said:
Ih8pkmn said:
Have you read any webcomics of late?

Or looked at a comic book?

then you have read a graphic novel.

now, excuse me. A new page is up, and I have yet to read it.
Exactly, and when I can find the interview I'll post it, Mr.Alan Moore has a few words about the foolishness of trying to make the distinction between comics and graphic novels (trade paperbacks), in that quite simply there is none, beyond mere technical observations, which have no bearing on the content, the art or story.
Alright, okay. I was going to start with going through all these comics you've written. But first a couple of general things about comics. What do you think of the term "graphic novel" that has come into use?

It's a marketing term. I mean, it was one that I never had any sympathy with. The term "comic" does just as well for me. The term "graphic novel" was something that was thought up in the '80s by marketing people and there was a guy called Bill Spicer who used to do a brilliant fanzine back in the sixties called Graphic Story Magazine. He came up with the term "graphic story".

That's got something to recommend it, you know, I can see "graphic story" if you need it to call it something but the thing that happened in the mid-'80s was that there were a couple of things out there that you could just about call a novel. You could just about call Maus a novel, you could probably just about call Watchmen a novel, in terms of density, structure, size, scale, seriousness of theme, stuff like that. The problem is that "graphic novel" just came to mean "expensive comic book" and so what you'd get is people like DC Comics or Marvel comics - because "graphic novels" were ge tting some attention, they'd stick six issues of whatever worthless piece of crap they happened to be publishing lately under a glossy cover and call it The She-Hulk Graphic Novel, you know?

It was that that I think tended to destroy any progress that comics might have made in the mid-'80s. The companies, the marketing people, who are not terribly bright individuals, they're not terribly creative, they don't really have the hang of - well, I mean, they really haven't got the hang of the 1970s yet, so the 21st century is a long way behind them and they think in very short term measures and consequently they were more or less to blame for destroying whatever kind of momentum the comic book picked up in the '80s by immediately using it predictably to sell a load of Batman, Spiderman shit. But no, the term "graphic novel" is not one that I'm over-fond of. It's nothing that I might carry a big crusade against, it doesn't really matter much what they're called but it's not a term that I'm very comfortable with.
 

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Ive red Watchmen, V for Vendetta, Batman: The Long Halloween, Kick-Ass and i want to read Blankets by: Craig Thompson, Maus by: Art Spiegelman, and From Hell by: Alan Moore. Thats it I wish I could say ive red more but i haven't.
 

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ive seen a lot of kids reading something called "bone", but it looks pretty much like a deluxe comic book.
 

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er, yeah like other people have said "graphic novels" are comics, just collected into one place, not even stand alone. You're thinking of Trade Paper Backs, and I and many people I know read them. Preacher is the stand out for me, along with Punisher MAX, The Boys, Deadpool... yeah I like Garth Ennis a lot.
 

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Quite a bit. I've have half a shelf full of the book's but my pride and joy being the four volumes of The Sandman Omnibus
 

Lissa-QUON

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Lets see, I've read Watchmen, V for Vendetta. You might want to read From Hell if you are big on the whole "novel" side of graphic novel, I've never gotten around to reading it but I hear its good.

Sandman is a good one, Finder is one of my favorites, The Crow, Transmetropolitan, Hellboy and BPRD (I know these are available in monthly "floppies" but they are released in limited series, story arcs so)
 

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Tiny116 said:
HigherTomorrow said:
Tiny116 said:
I've read Wanted, Watchmen, Wolverine Origin and Old man Logan, House of M and Angel after the fall part one.
Granted some of these may not strictly be graphic Novels, but I read them and am slowly increasing my collection

Axolotl said:
How is the Watchmen not a comic?
I think It's to do with the size. Things like Ultimate Spiderman or Uncanny X-men are all comic books fairly short but make up a series.
Graphic Novels are much larger, like Watchmen and are stand alone
At least thats how I understand it
But Watchmen was released in 12 issues. A graphic novel is essentially a collection of issues or a long comic book.
This: http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-difference-between-graphic-novels-and-comic-books.htm
Seems to give a good definition of the differences....which are subtle.
A pretentious distinction that's only used to create a arbitrary prestige class in order to increase their commercial values. They are comic books pure and simple.

That being said I've read some comic books recently. Most of them are crap and not worth mentioning. The ones worth mentioning are already mentioned. Read kick-ass the other day, never really liked it. The whole point of spinal injury makes him somehow more resilient is just stupid.
 

Jezzy54

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Watchmen is still a traditional comic book because it was a twelve-issue series. Anyway, at a library I read Arkham Asylum, which I thought was really pretentious. I haven't bought any yet, but I am looking forward to New Teen Titans: Games.